[WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from doing so. What's your thoughts? Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Phone: (03) 9417 0468 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
All the stats I can find (such as http://www.upsdell.com/BrowserNews/stat_trends.htm ) say that almost no one browses in 8 bit any more, so I generally use what ever colours I want. If I was making a site for mobile phones or something I'd probably try and stick to the web safe palette though (at least for any big blocks of colour). Jake Quoting Andreas Boehmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from doing so. What's your thoughts? Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Phone: (03) 9417 0468 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=wsg_webstandardsgroup_orgrestrict=exclude=words=Web+safe+colours+-+still+relevent will answer our question Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Andreas Boehmer wrote: Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from doing so. What's your thoughts? Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Phone: (03) 9417 0468 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
On 21/10/2004, at 4:34 PM, Andreas Boehmer wrote: Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from doing so. What's your thoughts? I ditched them a long time ago -- the reality is that 99% (or greater) of most audiences would be on thousands as a base. However, I'm careful about the contrast difference between non-safe objects, so that if a device rounds the colors to part of the 216 pallet, it would round one up, and one down, creating contrast, rather than rounding both to the same safe color. It's not an exact science at all, but I would never set a copyright notice or mission critical text in something with low contrast to it's background (like a very light grey on white), because that's just asking for trouble. An interesting side-note is the introduction of hand-helds... sure, most PCs might be running millions of colors these days, but are all those mobiles and PDA's? I bet they aren't :) Justin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? Honest answer - WHAT? your monitor only supports 216 colours??! Hahahaaa... 16.7 million too much to handle? ;) Half decent answer - It's a bit like making sure all is well at 800x600; only far less important (imo). Dodgy old systems will 'round off' to colours they can handle anyway, so it's not like you're locking them out. It's wise to back your colour depth way off just to check that the rounding off of colour values isn't causing any illegibility through lack of contrast. Of course, that's not a problem because we all make sure our designs have enough contrast for low vision users - don't we? just my 2c. Andrew. -- http://leftjustified.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
Andreas Boehmer asked: Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I subscribe to the More Crayons school of thought: http://www.morecrayons.com/ That gives me 4,096 colours while also allowing me to predict *how* they will degrade (they will dither to nearest web-safe colour) on older displays. Basically, what it boils down to is that in my CSS my shades of grey, for example, aren't limited to just: #333, #666, #999, etc. I also have colours like: #444, #888, #bbb, etc. The same applies to any other colours: #83b, #2f5, #456, etc. In fact, the CSS shorthand way of writing hex values is tailor made for using the more crayons technique. -- Jeremy Keith a d a c t i o http://adactio.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
Thanks, Jeremy for the link to More Crayons. I have just changed every color on the site I am working on to More Crayons colors and the results are great - the new colors are indistinguishable from the originals but much more web safe. Lyn Patterson ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?
Here's a link to an article that convinced me the Websafe colour palette sits alongside Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster ... http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/00/37/index2a.html?tw=design Cheers, Kevin Futter On 21/10/04 4:49 PM, Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=ws g_webstandardsgroup_orgrestrict=exclude=words=Web+safe+colours+-+still+rele vent will answer our question Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Andreas Boehmer wrote: Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick with them or do you go the full 16 bits? I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from doing so. What's your thoughts? Andreas Boehmer User Experience Consultant Phone: (03) 9417 0468 Mobile: (0411) 097 038 http://www.addictiveMedia.com.au Consulting | Accessibility | Usability | Development ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
