Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-04 Thread Stuart Foulstone

Do you mean you have a 1px bottom border on the anchor?

If so, altering the border attributes of the image will not change this.

You could, perhaps, try altering the relative positioning of the image to
slightly lower (hiding the border).

This seems to be a bit messy - which is what usually happens when you go
against the natural order of things.



On Sat, May 3, 2008 7:15 pm, Dean Matthews wrote:
 On May 3, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:


 To be clear, I have a 1pixel bottom border on hover (It looks better
 than the default underline).

 The problem is to easily and globally prevent the border on hover on
 image links.

 I have solved it with a border-style: none; class but it has to be
 applied to each image, which is a pain.




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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-04 Thread Dean Matthews



On May 4, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:


which is what usually happens when you go
against the natural order of things


That is an unnecessarily pedantic comment. I already said I solved my  
design anomaly by applying a class to the image anchor. I simply asked  
if there was a universal rule I hadn't thought of that would be more  
elegant. Since there apparently isn't then I'll just grep it.





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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-04 Thread dwain
this works for all images without adding a style to each image.

img {border:none;}
img:hover {border-bottom:1px solid #f00;padding-bottom:1px;}

dwain

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 On May 4, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:

  which is what usually happens when you go
  against the natural order of things
 

 That is an unnecessarily pedantic comment. I already said I solved my
 design anomaly by applying a class to the image anchor. I simply asked if
 there was a universal rule I hadn't thought of that would be more elegant.
 Since there apparently isn't then I'll just grep it.




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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread kate
Hi Dwain,

Yes true. I wanted to say really that the choice is yours as to color just put 
it the css  example. But I was'nt sure how to do it on its own so I wrote the 
lot.

I am as a learner  so bear with me please..:D but yes the original poster 
wanted an underline.

What about A List Apart?
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/customunderlines/

And:
http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=prevent+the+underline+on+image++go=form=QBRE
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  On 5/2/08, kate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or like this:
img {
 margin: 3px;
 padding: 3px;
 border: 2px solid #BAB089;
 background-color: #D1C9AA;
}
The above  CSS is in reply to always being blue. Well no not if you state 
what you want for the border color in your CSS.

  yeah, i went back and saw my problem.  it seems the color i thought was red 
was really blue.  had my hex figures backwards.

  with your example you have a border around the image.  i thought that the 
original poster wanted an underline.  with a 3px bottom padding stated you get 
the underline.
  dwain

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Yes there is a simple way.

Set up the anchor hover rule using,

text-decoration: underline;

An image is NOT text so it will not underline the image.

The image should be given an alt text description for when the image is
not available.  This text WILL be underlined on hover which is as it
should be.



On Thu, May 1, 2008 10:47 pm, Dean Matthews wrote:
 When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant
 for text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
 links in the same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with
 anchor rules?

 Thanks,

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread Stuart Foulstone

PS

As someone mentioned earlier you should also remove borders from the image,

a img {
border: 0;
}

(since some browsers will treat border as underline in these circumstances)

On Sat, May 3, 2008 10:11 am, Stuart Foulstone wrote:
 Yes there is a simple way.

 Set up the anchor hover rule using,

 text-decoration: underline;

 An image is NOT text so it will not underline the image.

 The image should be given an alt text description for when the image is
 not available.  This text WILL be underlined on hover which is as it
 should be.



 On Thu, May 1, 2008 10:47 pm, Dean Matthews wrote:
 When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant
 for text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
 links in the same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with
 anchor rules?

 Thanks,

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread Dean Matthews

On May 3, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:


As someone mentioned earlier you should also remove borders from the  
image,


a img {
border: 0;
}


This is what I was hoping would work but it doesn't. Explorer still  
shows the bottom border on hover. Interestingly it is not a problem  
with Safari which does not show the border hover on images by default.


To be clear, I have a 1pixel bottom border on hover (It looks better  
than the default underline).


The problem is to easily and globally prevent the border on hover on  
image links.


I have solved it with a border-style: none; class but it has to be  
applied to each image, which is a pain.





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RE: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-03 Thread EBS Admin
You could try this


img a:hover {
border: 0;
text-decoration: none;
}

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On May 3, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote:


 As someone mentioned earlier you should also remove borders from the  
 image,

 a img {
 border: 0;
 }

This is what I was hoping would work but it doesn't. Explorer still  
shows the bottom border on hover. Interestingly it is not a problem  
with Safari which does not show the border hover on images by default.

To be clear, I have a 1pixel bottom border on hover (It looks better  
than the default underline).

The problem is to easily and globally prevent the border on hover on  
image links.

I have solved it with a border-style: none; class but it has to be  
applied to each image, which is a pain.




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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread Adam Martin
@ Jason

you can't code imga/a/img

it can only be aimg... //a

hence to stop a decorations on images that have an a tag wrapping them...
the css should be

a img {
   text-decoration: none;
}

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Mike at Green-Beast.com 
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 it should be:
 
  a img {
 
  }
 

 Ah, yeah, duh, sorry can't do img a. Drop that from my previous example
 please. It's late, I'll Tweet my goof and go to bed :)

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread David Dorward

On 1 May 2008, at 23:14, Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

This should work for you:

img a {
text-decoration : none;
}


No, it shouldn't.

img is an empty element, it can't have any descendants. If it can't  
have any, then the selector An anchor that is a descendant of an  
image can never match anything.


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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread Benjamin White
Y'all are missing a very important point: images will never, ever have
an underline if you set text-decoration: underline.

Actually, I take that back. There is only one instance in which an
image might have a true underline. In the very unlikely event that
someone produces a bit of code that looks like this:

a href=somelink.htmlSome text img src=imgsrc.ext//a

You will end up with an underline running from Some to the end of
the image. This is, of course, assuming you haven't monkeyed with the
basic link styles already.

Now, some browsers will put a border on an image link. Firefox does.
Safari doesn't. I'll bet a few more do or don't. By default it'll have
a width of 2px (in Firefox anyway). So the only thing you have to
worry about in terms of default styles on image links is the border.

Unless you've added a border to anchors. Maybe you wanted a different
color than the text. Maybe you wanted a nifty dotted or dashed border.
Now you have a border applied to the link itself rather than the image
and there's very little you can do to get rid of it without adding
extra markup.

The number of folks who have commented that img a doesn't make a bit
of sense are absolutely correct. The only correct way to touch this
image by css is a img, but that only targets the image itself, which
means all you can do is muck about the the border on the image—the
border that may or may not show up in your browser in the first place.

So, I suspect Dean has a style that looks something like a {
border-bottom: 1px solid #000; } and he doesn't want that on his
images.

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread Kane Tapping
Hi Mike,

img a {}

Has anyone mentioned that this is incorrect? :-)

Kind Regards,

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Hi Dean,

 When you set up an anchor rule that has an 
 underline on hover meant for text, is there a 
 simple way to prevent the underline on image 

This should work for you:

img a {
  text-decoration : none;
}

Cheers.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread dwain
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Mike at Green-Beast.com 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  it should be:
  
   a img {
  
   }
  
  to underline an image the css is: a img {border-bottom:xpx solid
#xx;}  i have found that the border is always blue though no matter what
color value you assign, unless i'm missing something here.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread kate
Or like this:
img {
 margin: 3px;
 padding: 3px;
 border: 2px solid #BAB089;
 background-color: #D1C9AA;
}
The above  CSS is in reply to always being blue. Well no not if you state what 
you want for the border color in your CSS.

Courtesy of Xenoria Wordpress theme.
Test it. Its a beige color.

MADDIE MACCANN - MAY 3RD 2007

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On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Mike at Green-Beast.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

it should be:

a img {

}

  to underline an image the css is: a img {border-bottom:xpx solid #xx;}  i 
have found that the border is always blue though no matter what color value you 
assign, unless i'm missing something here.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-02 Thread dwain
On 5/2/08, kate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Or like this:
 img {
  margin: 3px;
  padding: 3px;
  border: 2px solid #BAB089;
  background-color: #D1C9AA;
 }
 The above  CSS is in reply to always being blue. Well no not if you state
 what you want for the border color in your CSS.


yeah, i went back and saw my problem.  it seems the color i thought was red
was really blue.  had my hex figures backwards.

with your example you have a border around the image.  i thought that the
original poster wanted an underline.  with a 3px bottom padding stated you
get the underline.
dwain

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[WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Dean Matthews
When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant  
for text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image  
links in the same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with  
anchor rules?


Thanks,

Dean




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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Benjamin White
On 5/1/08, Dean Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
 text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image links in the
 same ID or do you have to set up a separate class with anchor rules?

By underline do you mean the underline text-decoration or a bottom
border? If it's the former, it isn't really an issue. Browsers
won't—as far as I know—add an underline or border to image links even
if you've declared it to be there on hover. The trick is you want to
change the styles on the image inside the anchor instead of the anchor
itself. Like so:

a img {
border: 0;
}

Or what have you.

If you're adding a border-bottom to links and you don't want it to
show up on images you have a wholly different problem. In this case
the border is being applied to the link that just so happens to have
an image inside of it. It won't put an underline, because that
underline is a text decoration and there ain't no text in the link.
There's no CSS selector to target something that has a child.

The way I see it you have a few options:

1.) Apply a class to every anchor with an image.
2.) Make sure all of your images are inside another element with a
class or id and then target the links inside of it.
3.) Use JavaScript to crawl through the document looking for links
that meet an if loop.
4.) Scrap the whole idea of a bottom border on links and use the underline.

I tend to choose option 4.

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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Mahendran Venkatesan
  * **img a *{
 text-decoration : none;
   }

Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?

I suggest the following:

  a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}

  OR

 a{text-decoration:none;}

Thanks!
Venkatesan M



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 Hi Dean,

  When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
  text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
 

 This should work for you:

 img a {
  text-decoration : none;
 }

 Cheers.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Adam Martin
it should be:

a img {

}

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mahendran Venkatesan 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   * **img a *{
  text-decoration : none;
}

 Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?

 I suggest the following:

   a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}

   OR

  a{text-decoration:none;}

 Thanks!
 Venkatesan M




 On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Mike at Green-Beast.com 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi Dean,
 
   When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
   text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image
  
 
  This should work for you:
 
  img a {
   text-decoration : none;
  }
 
  Cheers.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

Hi Venkatesan,


Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?


How about this then:

a img, img a {
 text-decoration : none;
}

This is a fuller version with some interaction as a usability enahancement.

img, a img, img a {
 text-decoration : none;
 border : 2px solid #ccc; /* try the background color if wanted */
 font-size : 80%;  /* allows more alt text without overflow issues */
}

img a:hover, img a:focus {
 border : 2px solid #999;
}

img a:active{  /* focus in IE, onkeypress for all else (?) */
 border : 2px solid #000;
}

Respectfully,
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RE: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Jason Gray
a img{

border:none;

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I can never remember which way round these are supposed to go! Can someone
explain (again!) the rules here?

Thanks
susie


On 2/5/08 3:11 PM, Adam Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

it should be:

a img {

}

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Mahendran Venkatesan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   img a {
 text-decoration : none;
   }

Is there any chance 'img' can be a parent of 'anchor' tag?

I suggest the following:

  a.someclassname{text-decoration:none;}
  
  OR

 a{text-decoration:none;}

Thanks!
Venkatesan M




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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Dean,



When you set up an anchor rule that has an underline on hover meant for
text, is there a simple way to prevent the underline on image 


This should work for you:

img a {
 text-decoration : none;
}

Cheers.
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Re: [WSG] Image links

2008-05-01 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

it should be:

a img {

}


Ah, yeah, duh, sorry can't do img a. Drop that from my previous example 
please. It's late, I'll Tweet my goof and go to bed :)


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[WSG] Image links display hover

2004-10-22 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Arrrg!! Two steps forward, then ten backward! Why do my image links display
a hover (dotted line underneath) when I've created the class:

img {
border: none;
{

The particulars, CSS:
http://www.jrations.com/css/main.css

The XHTML file:
http://vtest.jrations.com/jwebtest_v2.php

Everything is validating. I am building and learning (in small steps) at the
same time and everything was going so well until I applied a link to an
image. What dumb thing have I missed or worse, not learned?

Thanks in advance for any help, I have so enjoyed al the banter of the group
and more importantly all the great info provided.

wayne

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Re: [WSG] Image links display hover

2004-10-22 Thread Lennart Fylling

- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 img {
 border: none;
 {

Have you tried :
 img a:hover {
   border: none;
}


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Re: [WSG] Image links display hover

2004-10-22 Thread haggis
Hello Wayne;
you asked 
Arrrg!! Two steps forward, then ten backward! Why do my image links 
display
a hover (dotted line underneath) when I've created the class:

img {
   border: none;
{
.
I think you'll find it's this rule that's causing your problem ...
a:hover {
border-bottom: 1px #FFCC00 dotted;
}
I think it can be corrected like this...
img a:hover {
  border-bottom: none;
{
or maybe even this one 
img a:hover {
  text-decoration: none;
{
HTH's ...
Bill.
William Haggerty
VWH Web Sales  Services
www.vwh.ca
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RE: [WSG] Image links display hover

2004-10-22 Thread cesar |cesargarcia.com
The problem is in your a:hover declaration,

a:hover {
border-bottom: 1px #FFCC00 dotted;
}

the a:hover show a border bottom. Try a create a class for the images.

Best Regards

César García
Consultor independiente
http://www.cesargarcia.com
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-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En
nombre de Wayne Godfrey
Enviado el: viernes, 22 de octubre de 2004 20:24
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Asunto: [WSG] Image links display hover

Arrrg!! Two steps forward, then ten backward! Why do my image links
display
a hover (dotted line underneath) when I've created the class:

img {
border: none;
{

The particulars, CSS:
http://www.jrations.com/css/main.css

The XHTML file:
http://vtest.jrations.com/jwebtest_v2.php

Everything is validating. I am building and learning (in small steps) at
the
same time and everything was going so well until I applied a link to an
image. What dumb thing have I missed or worse, not learned?

Thanks in advance for any help, I have so enjoyed al the banter of the
group
and more importantly all the great info provided.

wayne

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