RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
 Did you manage to find a solution to this?

 
Hi Ben,
 
I ended up using this structure:
 
   div class=articleDetails cfix
h5Nam vestibulum leo id condimentum/h5
citeDominus 23, 2008 - 10:36AM/cite
pPage 1 of 3 a class=single href=#Single page view/a/p
p class=commentsa href=#commentsComments
span45/span/a/p
   /div

This is going to be a snippet which can be skinned, hence I wrapped it
into a div to allow for backgrounds. The H5 gives the byline the weight
it needs semantically over other content. I found cite to be
appropriate for the time stamp as it's a reference to when the article
was published (but I clearly see room for discussion on this).
 
For the other information I just used ordinary paragraphs with
appropriate classes to style them.
 
Cheers,
 
Jens 

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RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread michael.brockington
I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around -
surely a citation should point at a document?
 
Mike




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 Did you manage to find a solution to this?

 
Hi Ben,
 
I ended up using this structure:
 
   div class=articleDetails cfix
h5Nam vestibulum leo id condimentum/h5
citeDominus 23, 2008 - 10:36AM/cite
pPage 1 of 3 a class=single href=#Single page
view/a/p
p class=commentsa href=#commentsComments
span45/span/a/p
   /div




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Re: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 17 Jul 2008, at 10:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around -  
surely a citation should point at a document?


If it's a cite _attribute_, then yes, it should point at a document.  
But a cite element, as I understand it, marks up a piece of  
attribution text, and so can simply be the name of a person, or  
whatever.

Eg.

blockquote
pSome article text blah blah blah/p
pwritten by citeHarold Lloyd/cite/p
/blockquote

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RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
 I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - 
 surely a citation should point at a document?

 If it's a cite _attribute_, then yes, it should point at a document.  
 But a cite element, as I understand it, marks up a piece of
attribution text, and so can simply be the name of a person, or
whatever.
 Eg.

 blockquote
  pSome article text blah blah blah/p
  pwritten by citeHarold Lloyd/cite/p
 /blockquote

Yes, I'm using cite to reference the date. After a bit of search I
found this at [1]:

cite class=ref-book id=ref-edwards-civil_war_guns-1978
title=Edwards, Civil War Guns
span class=author Edwards. William B./span
span class=title Civil War Guns/span.
span class=publisher Castle Books/span.
span class=publication-date 1978/span.
/cite

It's clearly overkill for what I'm doing but I can understand why the
author did it this way.

Cheers,
Jens

[1] http://bytes.com/forum/thread97106.html


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Re: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-16 Thread Ben Lau
Hi Jens,

Normally I'd use spans for all 3 elements, but I'm quite interested to find
out a better way of doing this.
Did you manage to find a solution to this?

Regards,
Ben


On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Jens-Uwe Korff 
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 Hi all,

 I'm trying to find a semantic representation of the following construct
 which is part of an article template:

 Byline goes here
 July 15, 2008 - 3:51PM
 Page 1 of 2 | Single page

 The current implementation uses proprietary byline and date tags and
 a span for the pagination information.

 I thought of using a low-level h5 for the byline since it's somehow
 connected to the main h1 further up the page. Maybe a ul for the
 pagination info?

 Suggestions welcome!

 Cheers,

 Jens

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Re: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-16 Thread Blake
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:36 PM, Ben Lau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Normally I'd use spans for all 3 elements, but I'm quite interested to find
 out a better way of doing this.
 Did you manage to find a solution to this?

Normally I use DIVs with appropriate class names.


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[WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-15 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all,

I'm trying to find a semantic representation of the following construct
which is part of an article template:

Byline goes here
July 15, 2008 - 3:51PM
Page 1 of 2 | Single page  

The current implementation uses proprietary byline and date tags and
a span for the pagination information.

I thought of using a low-level h5 for the byline since it's somehow
connected to the main h1 further up the page. Maybe a ul for the
pagination info?

Suggestions welcome!

Cheers,
 
Jens 

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