Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. If PHP is an option, you can produce a different 'effect' by having an array and randomly selecting the content. At it's simplest level this can just be an image, like this: ?php $location = array ( array(location='Treyarnon Bay', image='treyarnon.jpg'), array(location='Trevose Head', image='trevose.jpg'), array(location='Padstow', image='padstow.jpg'), array(location='Constantine bay', image='constantine.jpg'), array(location='Showery Tor', image='showerytor.jpg'), array(location='Bedruthan', image='bedruthan.jpg'), array(location='Treyarnon Dusk', image='treyarnondusk.jpg'), array(location='Carnewas', image='carnewas.jpg'), ); $numlocations=sizeof($location); $row = (rand(0,($numlocations-1))); $num=$row+1; echo img src=\openingpage/graphics/.$location[$row][image] .\ alt=\\ /p.$location[$row][location]./p; ? Or you can go completely over the top and have the array consisting of as many 'pages' as you like, selecting randomly as above. You can do the latter by linking to pages, by changing the CSS, etc etc. It's not perfect of course, but it doesn't use cookies, it doesn't need JS, it's simple, and it's robust. HTH, -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Huh... I had considered using PHP for something similar. I honestly wouldnt have thought to use it like that. I appreciate it you have given me a great idea. If it works ill post my results :) --D On 7/27/07, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. If PHP is an option, you can produce a different 'effect' by having an array and randomly selecting the content. At it's simplest level this can just be an image, like this: ?php $location = array ( array(location='Treyarnon Bay', image='treyarnon.jpg'), array(location='Trevose Head', image='trevose.jpg'), array(location='Padstow', image='padstow.jpg'), array(location='Constantine bay', image='constantine.jpg'), array(location='Showery Tor', image='showerytor.jpg'), array(location='Bedruthan', image='bedruthan.jpg'), array(location='Treyarnon Dusk', image='treyarnondusk.jpg'), array(location='Carnewas', image='carnewas.jpg'), ); $numlocations=sizeof($location); $row = (rand(0,($numlocations-1))); $num=$row+1; echo img src=\openingpage/graphics/.$location[$row][image] .\ alt=\\ /p.$location[$row][location]./p; ? Or you can go completely over the top and have the array consisting of as many 'pages' as you like, selecting randomly as above. You can do the latter by linking to pages, by changing the CSS, etc etc. It's not perfect of course, but it doesn't use cookies, it doesn't need JS, it's simple, and it's robust. HTH, -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
That was a big mistake... sorry. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de SosCpdGMail Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:22 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 21:14 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
On 27/07/07, Daniel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. I'm assuming you're talking about immediate page content, as opposed to allowing visitors to log in? I can't think of any reliable way of doing this without cookies, and even that's not fail-safe since some people have their system set to not accept cookies or to delete them immediately on browser close. Cheers, Seona. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. You'll need cookies. (well you could sort of determine new vistors by IP address but only in a way that wouldn't be as reliable -- there are many cases of NAT users sharing a single IP, or with AOL users having their IP change while browsing and you couldn't detect this). .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Yeah I didnt think so. I knew Id be baking cookies I just was wondering about a cookieless way or not. sigh Alright continuing as planned. --D On 7/26/07, Matthew Cruickshank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Kendrick wrote: I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. You'll need cookies. (well you could sort of determine new vistors by IP address but only in a way that wouldn't be as reliable -- there are many cases of NAT users sharing a single IP, or with AOL users having their IP change while browsing and you couldn't detect this). .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. Thanks for any help, --D *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-know-where-youve-been.html#wh ereyoubeen This sound's to be a way. _ De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Daniel Kendrick Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 20:40 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. Thanks for any help, --D *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Hassan Schroeder wrote: SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? Time how long it takes to receive a large file (eg more than a few hundred k) with Javascript. If it is very low surely that indicates a very fast connection or a cache hit. I wouldn't stake my life on it but it might provide some indication (and annoy any users with slower connections.) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 21:14 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors Daniel Kendrick wrote: I am curious if there is a way to serve up different pages to returning visitors so its different than that of a first time visitor. Sure. :-) I would like to avoid cookies all together. But if I must I must. The only alternative to cookies is to force the user to authenticate to your application, after which -- if you don't want to use a session cookie -- you'll have to do url rewriting. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RES: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors
Your post really help to fix the problem. I'm very glad. In a very hard way, applets can do the job. If you need a how-to, I can loose some time in. Just ask. Any way, a better choice is already provided with use of the history contents. A tip for you: Dream. Code. Be more intuitive. Rafael -Mensagem original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome de Hassan Schroeder Enviada em: quinta-feira, 26 de julho de 2007 23:10 Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Assunto: Re: RES: [WSG] Serving Different Content to Returning Visitors SosCpdGMail wrote: Sorry, im quite new to all that, but cant you look for cached content? Ip addresses cannot be used I think, because routers and all that, but cached files will be sure on client machine if he don't clear cache since last visit. And you'll look for cached content how? -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
