Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Dave Lane schreef: Drupal uses php as its template language, too, which is a breath of fresh air (given that PHP *is* a template language, I find it amusing that so many people insist on inventing new templating languages written in PHP but with different syntaxes and without all of PHP's capabilities). It's true that PHP is a template engine by itself, but I think something like Smarty (http://smarty.php.net) can be a nice tool to devide the back-end from the front-end. This can be done using only PHP as well, but as Smarty has it's own set of variables front-end developers can not mess up the back-ends logic. cheers, Sander *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Hi Mark On Mon, 2007-05-28 at 23:29 +0100, Mark Hedley wrote: Be interested to see if anyone can recommend a robust solution geared for UK E-commerce using Protx VSP Direct + 3D Secure. eZ Publish has Protx Plugin http://ez.no/community/contribs/workflow/protx_payment_gateway I haven't used it so I can comment on weather it uses VSP Direct + 3D Secure Cheers Bruce -- Bruce Morrison Solution Architect designIT Pty Ltd Website Content Management Specialists *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
On 5/28/07, Mark Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. If you can afford to wait a few months, Magento is open-source and looks to be pretty good: http://www.magentocommerce.com/ Matthew. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
On Tue, 29 May 2007 06:20:05 am Mark Hedley wrote: Hi everyone. I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. Have you looked at the e-Commerce section at http://www.opensourcecms.com? -- Regards, Steve Bathurst Computer Solutions URL: www.bathurstcomputers.com.au e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 0407 224 251 _ ... (0) ... / / \ .. / / . ) .. V__/_ Linux Powered! Registered Linux User #355382 * If you read the same things as others and say the same things they say, then you're perceived as intelligent. I'm a bit more independent and radical and consider intelligence the ability to think about matters on your own and ask a lot of skeptical questions to get at the real truth, not just what you're told it is. Apple's Inventor - Steve Wozniak 2006 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Micky Hulse wrote: You might want to look at these sites: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ http://start.websitebaker.org/en/introduction.html Doh, just noticed I pasted the website baker url in the wrong spot, I meant to suggest these two sites: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ http://www.opensourcecms.com/ :) -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Hi everyone. I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. I have looked at TradingEye PHP Store and have spoke in depth with Wladimir however some features seem restrictive for our needs. If time was not an issue I would create a system from my own experiences however time is a luxury I do not have at the moment and our system needs an overhaul from an administrative point of view. I only took on the development role in May 2006 and I am slowly getting things in order but still a long way to go. Needless to say I am wondering if anyone can offer any advice on a solution for Content Management and E-commerce. Naturally something which adheres to standards compliant design principals. Look forward to feedback. Thanks, Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Drupal. http://drupal.org Mark Hedley wrote: Hi everyone. I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. I have looked at TradingEye PHP Store and have spoke in depth with Wladimir however some features seem restrictive for our needs. If time was not an issue I would create a system from my own experiences however time is a luxury I do not have at the moment and our system needs an overhaul from an administrative point of view. I only took on the development role in May 2006 and I am slowly getting things in order but still a long way to go. Needless to say I am wondering if anyone can offer any advice on a solution for Content Management and E-commerce. Naturally something which adheres to standards compliant design principals. Look forward to feedback. Thanks, Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane == Egressive Ltd == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == +64 21 229 8147 +64 3 963 3733 = Linux: it just tastes better = no software patents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Hi all, I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than wonderful. I find it vague and confusing (kind of like it's trying to be everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of files all over the place to get one new template working. In my experience, something like Expression Engine (http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a non-technical editor to use. Just my 2c anyway Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Thanks for that Paul, I was looking at Drupal at one stage however the lack of Protx 3D Secure (Verified by Visa / MasterCard Secure Code) Module put me off considerably. What about the E-commerce side of things though? Anyone else got anything to bring to the table on this? Feedback and advice again appreciated. Oh, another thing, Smarty template engine is out of the question! I refuse to use it. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Bennett Sent: 28 May 2007 22:14 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions Hi all, I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than wonderful. I find it vague and confusing (kind of like it's trying to be everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of files all over the place to get one new template working. In my experience, something like Expression Engine (http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a non-technical editor to use. Just my 2c anyway Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Thanks for the suggestion Dave. Drupal was something I was looking at however it lacks the required Payment module we would need. Namely Protx VSP Direct with the 3D Secure protocol. Any other recommendations? Also thanks for the response, its much appreciated. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Lane Sent: 28 May 2007 21:46 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions Drupal. http://drupal.org Mark Hedley wrote: Hi everyone. I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. I have looked at TradingEye PHP Store and have spoke in depth with Wladimir however some features seem restrictive for our needs. If time was not an issue I would create a system from my own experiences however time is a luxury I do not have at the moment and our system needs an overhaul from an administrative point of view. I only took on the development role in May 2006 and I am slowly getting things in order but still a long way to go. Needless to say I am wondering if anyone can offer any advice on a solution for Content Management and E-commerce. Naturally something which adheres to standards compliant design principals. Look forward to feedback. Thanks, Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane == Egressive Ltd == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == +64 21 229 8147 +64 3 963 3733 = Linux: it just tastes better = no software patents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Mark Hedley wrote: Feedback and advice again appreciated. Expression Engine is good and reliable... but you got to pay approx 200$ for commercial license. Also, currently EE does not have a full-featured E-commerce module (just basic paypal.) The current approach for most EE users is to use something like Cubecart or Zencart. http://www.cubecart.com/site/home/ http://zen-cart.com/ Note: I hear there is a full-featured module being developed for EE... I hope it comes-out soon... Keep a look-out here: http://solspace.com/ Additionally, I find that EE makes me pull my hair out trying to make sure I have all my settings perfected... I think EE is great for folks that are not perfectionistic (maybe it is just me) -- I personally spend way too much time playing with EE settings -- For a couple pro-bono projects, I never finished (or switched to an alternative solution) partly due to all the loose ends that need to be tied in order to get EE fully optimized. Additionally, code redundancy is also a problem when it comes to templates (though, some would say this is a feature of EE)... Long story short, overall optimization can be attained, but it takes time, especially if you are new to the templating syntax and EE workflow. Do not get me wrong, EE is really nice though -- I would say there are many more good aspects than bad (great community support via forums.) Also, due to the price, EE is always growing and getting better. I love Textpattern, but it is lacking in the E-commerce department. Prob best to get a third party app (i.e. Cubecart/Zencart) for e-commerce stuff if using TXP. Drupal looks a bit too involved -- I enjoy coding, but it looks like if you got a quick deadline, and are new to Drupal, then you are SOL for quick-turnaround. I have heard good and bad things about Joomla (I personally never got past the installation.) Also, I rarely need a CMS that has everything under the sun (this is main reason why I love TXP.) I have heard Website Baker is good, though never used it... not sure about e-commerce, but maybe worth a gander: http://start.websitebaker.org/en/introduction.html You might want to look at these sites: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ http://start.websitebaker.org/en/introduction.html Also, the WSG has a WSG-CMS listserv... Might want to ask questions there. Just my .0002cents... Good luck! Cheers, M -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Thanks Micky, Are you aware of any E-commerce solutions + CMS with support for the 3D Secure Protx VSP Direct? Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micky Hulse Sent: 28 May 2007 22:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions Mark Hedley wrote: Feedback and advice again appreciated. Expression Engine is good and reliable... but you got to pay approx 200$ for commercial license. Also, currently EE does not have a full-featured E-commerce module (just basic paypal.) The current approach for most EE users is to use something like Cubecart or Zencart. http://www.cubecart.com/site/home/ http://zen-cart.com/ Note: I hear there is a full-featured module being developed for EE... I hope it comes-out soon... Keep a look-out here: http://solspace.com/ Additionally, I find that EE makes me pull my hair out trying to make sure I have all my settings perfected... I think EE is great for folks that are not perfectionistic (maybe it is just me) -- I personally spend way too much time playing with EE settings -- For a couple pro-bono projects, I never finished (or switched to an alternative solution) partly due to all the loose ends that need to be tied in order to get EE fully optimized. Additionally, code redundancy is also a problem when it comes to templates (though, some would say this is a feature of EE)... Long story short, overall optimization can be attained, but it takes time, especially if you are new to the templating syntax and EE workflow. Do not get me wrong, EE is really nice though -- I would say there are many more good aspects than bad (great community support via forums.) Also, due to the price, EE is always growing and getting better. I love Textpattern, but it is lacking in the E-commerce department. Prob best to get a third party app (i.e. Cubecart/Zencart) for e-commerce stuff if using TXP. Drupal looks a bit too involved -- I enjoy coding, but it looks like if you got a quick deadline, and are new to Drupal, then you are SOL for quick-turnaround. I have heard good and bad things about Joomla (I personally never got past the installation.) Also, I rarely need a CMS that has everything under the sun (this is main reason why I love TXP.) I have heard Website Baker is good, though never used it... not sure about e-commerce, but maybe worth a gander: http://start.websitebaker.org/en/introduction.html You might want to look at these sites: http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ http://start.websitebaker.org/en/introduction.html Also, the WSG has a WSG-CMS listserv... Might want to ask questions there. Just my .0002cents... Good luck! Cheers, M -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
I've been using WordPress for two years and love it. I find it easy to teach clients how to use it. I've recently installed Drupal at the request of a client and find the learning curve very steep... I agree that it is vague and confusing. I haven't even had the chance to dive into the template coding yet...I'm still trying to figure out how to get around it from within. I've seen several sites with Zen Cart and love the presentation, but haven't had time to explore it from the inside...defintley on my list of things to explore. Paul Bennett wrote: Hi all, I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than wonderful. I find it vague and confusing (kind of like it's trying to be everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of files all over the place to get one new template working. In my experience, something like Expression Engine (http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a non-technical editor to use. Just my 2c anyway Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- /Expose my inner self? It rises from the dust into pale moonlight... My ass shows. You may kiss it./ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
Be interested to see if anyone can recommend a robust solution geared for UK E-commerce using Protx VSP Direct + 3D Secure. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raine Sent: 28 May 2007 23:21 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions I've been using WordPress for two years and love it. I find it easy to teach clients how to use it. I've recently installed Drupal at the request of a client and find the learning curve very steep... I agree that it is vague and confusing. I haven't even had the chance to dive into the template coding yet...I'm still trying to figure out how to get around it from within. I've seen several sites with Zen Cart and love the presentation, but haven't had time to explore it from the inside...defintley on my list of things to explore. Paul Bennett wrote: Hi all, I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than wonderful. I find it vague and confusing (kind of like it's trying to be everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of files all over the place to get one new template working. In my experience, something like Expression Engine (http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a non-technical editor to use. Just my 2c anyway Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Expose my inner self? It rises from the dust into pale moonlight... My ass shows. You may kiss it. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Mark Hedley wrote: Are you aware of any E-commerce solutions + CMS with support for the 3D Secure Protx VSP Direct? Sorry, not sure. You might find someone who *is aware* on over at the WSG-CMS list... I signed up for the CMS list durning my sign-up for this list... but I am not aware of a web page that talks about the CMS list and/or what specific steps to take in order to become a WSG-CMS list member... I think you just have to opt-in when signing-up for this (WSG) list. Good luck. Thanks, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Additionally, code redundancy is also a problem when it comes to templates (though, some would say this is a feature of EE) I've not found that so far. Once you get your head around the way you can embed templates in other templates, it's just like using includes. -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Cheers again Micky, Will keep the list updated with my findings. Right now the two possible solutions are: Clickcartpro and TradingEye Shop v5. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micky Hulse Sent: 28 May 2007 23:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions Mark Hedley wrote: Are you aware of any E-commerce solutions + CMS with support for the 3D Secure Protx VSP Direct? Sorry, not sure. You might find someone who *is aware* on over at the WSG-CMS list... I signed up for the CMS list durning my sign-up for this list... but I am not aware of a web page that talks about the CMS list and/or what specific steps to take in order to become a WSG-CMS list member... I think you just have to opt-in when signing-up for this (WSG) list. Good luck. Thanks, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions
EE looks good but lacks the E-commerce functionality we would need for our system. Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Faulds Sent: 28 May 2007 23:40 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Suggestions Please for: CMS / E-commerce Solutions Additionally, code redundancy is also a problem when it comes to templates (though, some would say this is a feature of EE) I've not found that so far. Once you get your head around the way you can embed templates in other templates, it's just like using includes. -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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John Faulds wrote: Additionally, code redundancy is also a problem when it comes to templates (though, some would say this is a feature of EE) I've not found that so far. Once you get your head around the way you can embed templates in other templates, it's just like using includes. [OT] Kinda, but not really. With normal PHP includes, one does not have to pass/set variables... I find that clunky -- also, working with URL segments is not the most easy thing in the world. Overall, I think EE is great, but the templating could use mucho improvements. But, I am a picky perfectionist... Most normal/more experienced folks (like yourself) probably do not mind most of the things I find annoying. For the sake of not going further OT, I will stop my complaining. :D [/OT] Cheers, Micky -- Wishlists: http://snipurl.com/1gqpj Switch: http://browsehappy.com/ BCC?: http://snipurl.com/w6f8 My: http://del.icio.us/mhulse *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Hi I have used cubecart for a client and he was more than happy with it.. Free with Fantasico as well :) On 5/29/07, Mark Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone. I am currently looking for a cost-effective (preferably opensource) solution to run our companies UK based web site. I have looked at TradingEye PHP Store and have spoke in depth with Wladimir however some features seem restrictive for our needs. If time was not an issue I would create a system from my own experiences however time is a luxury I do not have at the moment and our system needs an overhaul from an administrative point of view. I only took on the development role in May 2006 and I am slowly getting things in order but still a long way to go. Needless to say I am wondering if anyone can offer any advice on a solution for Content Management and E-commerce. Naturally something which adheres to standards compliant design principals. Look forward to feedback. Thanks, Mark Hedley Web Development Manager Mayborn Baby Child Division http://www.tommeetippee.com Jackel International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1894022). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Sangenic International Limited is a company registered in England Wales (registered number 1308939). Our registered office is at Dudley Lane, Cramlington, Northumberland, NE23 7RH. Tel (0191) 2501864, Fax (0191) 2501727. Jackel International and Sangenic International are part of the Mayborn Group This transmission and any attachments are confidential and are intended solely for the named addressee(s). If you are not the addressee, please do not read, copy, use or disclose this transmission and notify us immediately by telephone (0191) 2501864 or by reply. Please then delete this transmission from your system. You should also be aware that all incoming e-mails are monitored for system security purposes. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com http://www.germworks.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Hi Paul, I'm afraid your experience isn't one we've shared - we're more or less full-time Drupal developers now (after trying a number of alternatives). If you haven't tried it, Drupal 5.x is a major step up from Drupal 4.7 (which was already outstanding) - a very impressive system, and its theming capabilities from my experience are second to none. Drupal uses php as its template language, too, which is a breath of fresh air (given that PHP *is* a template language, I find it amusing that so many people insist on inventing new templating languages written in PHP but with different syntaxes and without all of PHP's capabilities). With regard to the little bits of files, you may be referring to Drupal's rather elegant theme override capabilities, one of its great strengths, in my opinion. These allow you to change only the bits you want to change without incurring the overhead of replicating an entire theme if you don't need to. Drupal's ecommerce functionality has been completely rewritten for 5.x, but it is my understanding that it is quite a big improvement over earlier versions. I haven't used it much myself (my colleagues here have more experience with it and rate it as very good), so I recommend a test drive before committing - but then that's true of any of the CMS/E-Commerce suggestions. Cheers, Dave Paul Bennett wrote: Hi all, I just have to pitch in here. My dealings with Drupal have been less than wonderful. I find it vague and confusing (kind of like it's trying to be everything to everyone) and when I tried to create a new template I found all sorts of crappy table-based code needed, as well as the need to create bits of files all over the place to get one new template working. In my experience, something like Expression Engine (http://www.expressionengine.com) or wordpress (http://www.wordpress.org) would be a far better bet for a simple CMS and a heck of a lot easier for a non-technical editor to use. Just my 2c anyway Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Dave Lane == Egressive Ltd == [EMAIL PROTECTED] == +64 21 229 8147 +64 3 963 3733 = Linux: it just tastes better = no software patents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
