[WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

okay so we got the nav bar settled now i am trying to clean it all up and send it live.

http://www.desertstandard.net/yv2/index.php

i found holly and big johns article on Source Ordered Columns and liked the ridged 
example near the bottom:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/ordered-floats.html

So I implemented that and now it seems to be centered and floating, but its not 
clearing the header and nav div's at the top of the page in Safari. I have no idea 
what its doing in IE6 (if anyone wants to tell me you can spare the gory details =) ).

So what is the deal here? I have put clear:both;  in both of the upper div's, is this 
the wrong thing?

As always all comments are appreciated.

Roger
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Re: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread LC 55

Hi Roger.
This is a screenshot of how your site looks in Opera 7.
Addy: http://www.lc55.co.uk/test/ss1.jpg

Perhaps you would be kind enough to give me some feedback on how my own test design 
looks, in whatever browsers are available to you.

Addy: http://www.lc55.co.uk/test/index.html

Apologies everyone, for the cross posting within this message.

Regards, JG

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okay so we got the nav bar settled now i am trying to clean it all up and send it live.

http://www.desertstandard.net/yv2/index.php

i found holly and big johns article on Source Ordered Columns and liked the ridged 
example near the bottom:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/ordered-floats.html

So I implemented that and now it seems to be centered and floating, but its not 
clearing the header and nav div's at the top of the page in Safari. I have no idea 
what its doing in IE6 (if anyone wants to tell me you can spare the gory details =) ).

So what is the deal here? I have put clear:both;  in both of the upper div's, is this 
the wrong thing?

As always all comments are appreciated.

Roger
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RE: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

IE 6 is showing the same as Safari, thanks for the screen shot.

hmmm...

I have tried making the centerctr DIV position absolutely with 140px to the top but 
that hasn't helped it either.

the big thing I have to maintain is the transparent BG so that the sun image is always 
viewable.

this seems to be a one step forward eight steps back wards process.

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: JLE Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 2:04 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi,
 my first post on this wonderful list - I am learning so much by
 following
 these posts

  =here is a screen shot from IE 6.028 on a PC-running Windows XP- and
 it is
 just a bit all over the place.

 Cannot offer a solution - cause I am rank novice - but I sure would
 like to
 see a solution posted - aids in my learning curve too.

 cheers

 Lynne
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 6:21 PM
 Subject: [WSG] centering rigid content


 
  okay so we got the nav bar settled now i am trying to clean it all up
 and
 send it live.
 
  http://www.desertstandard.net/yv2/index.php
 
  i found holly and big johns article on Source Ordered Columns and
 liked
 the ridged example near the bottom:
  http://www.positioniseverything.net/ordered-floats.html
 
  So I implemented that and now it seems to be centered and floating,
 but
 its not clearing the header and nav div's at the top of the page in
 Safari.
 I have no idea what its doing in IE6 (if anyone wants to tell me you
 can
 spare the gory details =) ).
 
  So what is the deal here? I have put clear:both;  in both of the
 upper
 div's, is this the wrong thing?
 
  As always all comments are appreciated.
 
  Roger
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RE: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

alright i removed the clear: both; from the hdr and now have it in nav and centerctr 
and that didnt fix it. I tried it in only nav and then in only center ctr and that 
didnt solve it either.

uggghhh. deep breathing and everything is sunny out. I am going to the pool for a 
bit.

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 2:57 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Hi Roger
 
 The problem you describe is happening in FireFox too. The centerctr div
 is
 not being cleared - add clear:both; to that rule and see how it looks.
 
 I think the misunderstanding here is where clears take place. The
 clear
 instruction means disregard any *previous* floats. So having
 clear:both; on
 the header  nav isn't going to do much (maybe needs to stay on nav).
 
 I haven't tested this but that is my first guess.
 
 JG: You site looks just fine in FireFox - I can't see any problems.
 
 
 Cheers
 
 Mark
 
 
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RE: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

alright i didnt make the pool but i tried this:

made a new div called outer and positioned it absolute with top 140px and width 100%. 
wrapped that around everything and it makes the content work, for the most part, in 
safari. so now that I have .04% of the market working can someone look at this in IE6 
and tell me how FUBARed it is?

www.desertstandard.net/yv2/

cheers

roger
  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 9:03 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 alright i removed the clear: both; from the hdr and now have it in nav
 and centerctr and that didnt fix it. I tried it in only nav and then in
 only center ctr and that didnt solve it either.
 
 uggghhh. deep breathing and everything is sunny out. I am going to
 the pool for a bit.
 
   Original Message 
  Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
  From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 2:57 am
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Hi Roger
  
  The problem you describe is happening in FireFox too. The centerctr
 div
  is
  not being cleared - add clear:both; to that rule and see how it
 looks.
  
  I think the misunderstanding here is where clears take place. The
  clear
  instruction means disregard any *previous* floats. So having
  clear:both; on
  the header  nav isn't going to do much (maybe needs to stay on
 nav).
  
  I haven't tested this but that is my first guess.
  
  JG: You site looks just fine in FireFox - I can't see any problems.
  
  
  Cheers
  
  Mark
  
  
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RE: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

thanks jg

i have tried another approach using this example:
http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-3col-layout/

have a look:
www.desertstandard.net/yv3/

I am happy with it for the most part. Need to do some tweaking with the tables on 
schedule.php page and the header images isn't floating properly. i have not checked it 
in IE however so I am a little anxious to see how that goes.

I think that the absolute positioning in the last one was causing the problems. anyone 
care to comment on how position declarations could cause so much trouble? it just 
seems that the system works against itself so much.

thanks again.

  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: LC 55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 11:22 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Screenshot from Opera 7 @ http://lc55.co.uk/test/yv.jpg

 Sorry Roger, but the search box seems to run into the footer links.

 I honestly believe there was a posting connected to the same problem
 someone else had within the last 14 days.
 Check the archives of the WSG to find it.
 Sorry I can't be of more help.

 Regards, JG

 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 alright i didnt make the pool but i tried this:

 made a new div called outer and positioned it absolute with top 140px
 and width 100%. wrapped that around everything and it makes the content
 work, for the most part, in safari. so now that I have .04% of the
 market working can someone look at this in IE6 and tell me how FUBARed
 it is?

 www.desertstandard.net/yv2/

 cheers

 roger
   Original Message 
  Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 9:03 am
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  alright i removed the clear: both; from the hdr and now have it in
 nav
  and centerctr and that didnt fix it. I tried it in only nav and then
 in
  only center ctr and that didnt solve it either.
 
  uggghhh. deep breathing and everything is sunny out. I am going
 to
  the pool for a bit.
 
    Original Message 
   Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
   From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 2:57 am
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Hi Roger
  
   The problem you describe is happening in FireFox too. The
 centerctr
  div
   is
   not being cleared - add clear:both; to that rule and see how it
  looks.
  
   I think the misunderstanding here is where clears take place. The
   clear
   instruction means disregard any *previous* floats. So having
   clear:both; on
   the header  nav isn't going to do much (maybe needs to stay on
  nav).
  
   I haven't tested this but that is my first guess.
  
   JG: You site looks just fine in FireFox - I can't see any
 problems.
  
  
   Cheers
  
   Mark
  
  
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RE: [WSG] centering rigid content

2004-02-15 Thread roger

thanks,

i have done a few mods. Please have a look and let me know what you think. The site 
goes live tomorrow. There are still a few areas under construction. I have not been 
able to talk them out of the pop up windows for the teacher bios.

thanks again.

by the way i realize that i am borrowing heavily from what others have given, what is 
the proper way of giving credit?

roger

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: JLE Consulting [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 5:40 pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 re pixy.cz approach -here tis in IE - looking good!!
 
 cheers
 Lynne
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 7:18 AM
 Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
 
 
 
  thanks jg
 
  i have tried another approach using this example:
  http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-3col-layout/
 
  have a look:
  www.desertstandard.net/yv3/
 
  I am happy with it for the most part. Need to do some tweaking with
 the
 tables on schedule.php page and the header images isn't floating
 properly. i
 have not checked it in IE however so I am a little anxious to see how
 that
 goes.
 
  I think that the absolute positioning in the last one was causing
 the
 problems. anyone care to comment on how position declarations could
 cause so
 much trouble? it just seems that the system works against itself so
 much.
 
  thanks again.
 
    Original Message 
   Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
   From: LC 55 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 11:22 am
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Screenshot from Opera 7 @ http://lc55.co.uk/test/yv.jpg
  
   Sorry Roger, but the search box seems to run into the footer
 links.
  
   I honestly believe there was a posting connected to the same
 problem
   someone else had within the last 14 days.
   Check the archives of the WSG to find it.
   Sorry I can't be of more help.
  
   Regards, JG
  
   --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   alright i didnt make the pool but i tried this:
  
   made a new div called outer and positioned it absolute with top
 140px
   and width 100%. wrapped that around everything and it makes the
 content
   work, for the most part, in safari. so now that I have .04% of the
   market working can someone look at this in IE6 and tell me how
 FUBARed
   it is?
  
   www.desertstandard.net/yv2/
  
   cheers
  
   roger
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Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 9:03 am
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
alright i removed the clear: both; from the hdr and now have it
 in
   nav
and centerctr and that didnt fix it. I tried it in only nav and
 then
   in
only center ctr and that didnt solve it either.
   
uggghhh. deep breathing and everything is sunny out. I am
 going
   to
the pool for a bit.
   
  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: [WSG] centering rigid content
 From: Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, February 15, 2004 2:57 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Hi Roger

 The problem you describe is happening in FireFox too. The
   centerctr
div
 is
 not being cleared - add clear:both; to that rule and see how
 it
looks.

 I think the misunderstanding here is where clears take place.
 The
 clear
 instruction means disregard any *previous* floats. So having
 clear:both; on
 the header  nav isn't going to do much (maybe needs to stay
 on
nav).

 I haven't tested this but that is my first guess.

 JG: You site looks just fine in FireFox - I can't see any
   problems.


 Cheers

 Mark


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