Re: [WSG] hello

2008-03-21 Thread willdonovan
I'd also add that the 'Web 2.0' as a word / phrase and phenomena is a 
way of describing the internet and new design concepts to those who make 
decisions on it but don't really have any idea about it.


e.g. Marketing Managers whom have developers and designers telling them 
we need to do this and this to the web site and the manager not seeing 
the pointwhen it looks like their brochure and they do not get many 
complaints.


Oh yeah, and the hits are steady or up!

Like others have said a buzz word, but I think a necessary one.

William

libwebdev wrote:

Kat wrote:
  

Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself?




I don't know, but it's certainly *beyond* the web. Librarians around
the world have been flapping their arms and gums about Library 2.0
for ages, which, imo, is even more ridiculous than Web 2.0.

lib.


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-15 Thread Gitanjali
So web2.0 is the mixture of scripts, tools.. etc..

am i rite?
-- 
Regards.
Gitanjali,
Web Designer.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's art, Kat, design is different. And design is a significant part of
 the web.


  On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:

  kevin mcmonagle wrote:

 yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.

 That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has
 it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism,
 Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?

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RE: [WSG] hello - [OT]

2008-02-15 Thread John Hancock
Please can this be closed? It's far off any standards related topic.

 

Possibly the only thing I can see as a relevant part of the 'Web 2.0
movement' is the abstraction of the presentational information from data on
a page, which isn't being discussed here.

 

If posting an off-topic message, please at least mark it as such so the rest
of us can hit the delete button without checking it first for relevant
information!

 

Kind regards,

 

John Hancock

Identity

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Joe Ortenzi
Sent: Friday, 15 February 2008 6:32 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] hello

 

That's art, Kat, design is different.

And design is a significant part of the web.

 

 

On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:

 

kevin mcmonagle wrote:

yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.

That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has it
become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, Post-Modernism,
Humanism, Impressionism, etc?

 

Kat

 

 

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-15 Thread David Dorward


On 15 Feb 2008, at 08:11, Gitanjali wrote:


So web2.0 is the mixture of scripts, tools.. etc..


It is a vague and poorly defined buzzword that is of no use in a  
technical discussion. In a non-technical discussion, it means pretty  
much whatever you want it to mean.


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-15 Thread Larry Swanson
As I understand it, Web 2.0 is about the web as a platform, as a 
medium for collaboration and collective wisdom, about user-generated 
content, about databases (and what you do with them), about processes 
as opposed to products, about never-ending design and development 
cycles, about technologies like XML, RSS, and AJAX.  For more 
details, go to the source, Tim O'Reilly's elaboration on the 
conversation that spawned the term Web 2.0:

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
(or if that URL's too long:
http://tinyurl.com/743r5 )
Cheers,
Larry

At 2/15/2008 12:11 AM Friday, you wrote:

So web2.0 is the mixture of scripts, tools.. etc..

am i rite?
--
Regards.
Gitanjali,
Web Designer.
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's art, Kat, design is different.
And design is a significant part of the web.


On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:


kevin mcmonagle wrote:

yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.
That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web 
itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as 
Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?


Kat




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Re: [WSG] hello - [OT]

2008-02-15 Thread Matt Fellows
With no offense intended to the list moderators, I feel the usefulness of
this mailing list is diminishing due to an increase in irrelevant and lazy
postings.

The majority of people on this list are genuine web developers, who care for
the future of the Web and the place Web Standards has in it. But there seems
to be a small number of people who think they can simply post their problems
to this list without consulting any other reference.

Basic CSS problems, PHP syntax and even spam help are just a sample of some
of these questions that can, and should be either found quickly by a number
of popular resources or even a quick search in Google. Instead, they lazily
exploit the goodwill of many in this list who are kind enough to visit their
site and fix their problems.

With the number of these increasing there is no wonder why people are
leaving this list (and publicly doing so).

Out on a limb here - does anybody else feel the same? If so, do you have a
suggestion as to how we can better the quality of the list?

Matt


On 2/15/08, John Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Please can this be closed? It's far off any standards related topic.



 Possibly the only thing I can see as a relevant part of the 'Web 2.0movement' 
 is the abstraction of the presentational information from data on
 a page, which isn't being discussed here.



 If posting an off-topic message, please at least mark it as such so the
 rest of us can hit the delete button without checking it first for relevant
 information!



 Kind regards,



 John Hancock

 *Identity*



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 That's art, Kat, design is different.

 And design is a significant part of the web.





 On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:



 kevin mcmonagle wrote:

  yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.

  That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? Has
 it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism,
 Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?



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Re: [WSG] hello - [OT]

2008-02-15 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Matt Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Out on a limb here - does anybody else feel the same?


I really feel that you could have answered that question elsewhere, or even
with a quick search on Google, instead of lazily exploiting the goodwill of
this list...

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Re: [WSG] hello - [OT] - better the quality of the list

2008-02-15 Thread Andrew Maben


On Feb 15, 2008, at 6:52 AM, Matt Fellows wrote:

With no offense intended to the list moderators, I feel the  
usefulness of this mailing list is diminishing due to an increase  
in irrelevant and lazy postings.

...

Out on a limb here - does anybody else feel the same? If so, do you  
have a suggestion as to how we can better the quality of the list?


Matt


On 2/15/08, John Hancock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please can this be closed? It's far off any standards related topic.

Yes, please.

The discussions of standards based solutions to various css- nd js- 
related problems are incredibly useful, and esoteric debates about  
the semantic value of various html tags are fascinating, but there  
does seem to be a growing tendency to submit general web technical  
questions that really have no place here.


On occasion I have replied to PHP questions off list, usually  
referring to other available resources - perhaps it would be better  
to make that reply on the list, and then have the moderators  
immediately close the topic?


As for Web 2.0, browsing the results of a Google search could  
surely tell more than anyone could possibly want to know on the  
subject...


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Re: [WSG] hello - [OT] - better the quality of the list

2008-02-15 Thread Gregorio Espadas
I totally agree with you.

This is the very first time that I post here, I'll try to be more active and
participate with quality replies.

Greetings from Mexico.

Gregorio Espadas

gespadas [at] gmail [dot] com



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 The discussions of standards based solutions to various css- nd js-related
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 value of various html tags are fascinating, but there does seem to be a
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Re: [WSG] hello - ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED

2008-02-15 Thread russ - maxdesign
Please do not reply to this thread
Thanks
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Re: [WSG] hello - [OT]- ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED

2008-02-15 Thread russ - maxdesign
Please do not teply to this thread either
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-15 Thread Paul Dwyer
I've been vaguely following this discussion and thought I would step in here.

Web 2.0 IS a buzzword that means to do nothing more than to imply the
next step of the web as a communications medium.
You could replace the term with new and improved. It has been coined
to describe the phenomina of web applications such as Myspace,
Facebook, Flikr, Wikipedia; any web application that enables the
democratization and mass interaction of web-based information
regardless of its background programming language. World of Warcraft
and now the XBox 360 could be lumped in there too.

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Larry Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 As I understand it, Web 2.0 is about the web as a platform, as a
  medium for collaboration and collective wisdom, about user-generated
  content, about databases (and what you do with them), about processes
  as opposed to products, about never-ending design and development
  cycles, about technologies like XML, RSS, and AJAX.  For more
  details, go to the source, Tim O'Reilly's elaboration on the
  conversation that spawned the term Web 2.0:
  
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
  (or if that URL's too long:
  http://tinyurl.com/743r5 )
  Cheers,
  Larry


  At 2/15/2008 12:11 AM Friday, you wrote:
  So web2.0 is the mixture of scripts, tools.. etc..
  

 am i rite?
  --
  Regards.
  Gitanjali,
  Web Designer.
  On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That's art, Kat, design is different.
  And design is a significant part of the web.
  
  
  On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:
  
  kevin mcmonagle wrote:
  yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.
  That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web
  itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as
  Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?
  
  Kat



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Re: [WSG] hello - ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED - AGAIN!!!

2008-02-15 Thread russ - maxdesign
This thread has been closed. Twice.

No more

Thanks
Russ


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-15 Thread Gitanjali
Thank's all.i've got very good info on web 2.0

thank u very much..

On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Paul Dwyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been vaguely following this discussion and thought I would step in
 here.

 Web 2.0 IS a buzzword that means to do nothing more than to imply the
 next step of the web as a communications medium.
 You could replace the term with new and improved. It has been coined
 to describe the phenomina of web applications such as Myspace,
 Facebook, Flikr, Wikipedia; any web application that enables the
 democratization and mass interaction of web-based information
 regardless of its background programming language. World of Warcraft
 and now the XBox 360 could be lumped in there too.

 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:09 AM, Larry Swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  As I understand it, Web 2.0 is about the web as a platform, as a
   medium for collaboration and collective wisdom, about user-generated
   content, about databases (and what you do with them), about processes
   as opposed to products, about never-ending design and development
   cycles, about technologies like XML, RSS, and AJAX.  For more
   details, go to the source, Tim O'Reilly's elaboration on the
   conversation that spawned the term Web 2.0:
 
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
   (or if that URL's too long:
   http://tinyurl.com/743r5 )
   Cheers,
   Larry
 
 
   At 2/15/2008 12:11 AM Friday, you wrote:
   So web2.0 is the mixture of scripts, tools.. etc..
   
 
  am i rite?
   --
   Regards.
   Gitanjali,
   Web Designer.
   On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Joe Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   That's art, Kat, design is different.
   And design is a significant part of the web.
   
   
   On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:
   
   kevin mcmonagle wrote:
   yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a
 genre.
   That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web
   itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as
   Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?
   
   Kat
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-14 Thread Joe Ortenzi

That's art, Kat, design is different.
And design is a significant part of the web.


On Feb 12 2008, at 22:52, Katrina wrote:


kevin mcmonagle wrote:
yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a  
genre.
That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web  
itself? Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as  
Modernism, Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?


Kat


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi,

Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked
by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking,
etc.

The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this
much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss
feeds etc.

I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which
incorporate these technologies.

Stuart

On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote:
 kevin mcmonagle wrote:
 yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.


 That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself?
 Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism,
 Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Richard Pendergast
that is by far the most profound statement ive heard regarding web 2.0

totally spot on. funny how simple things become when you look at it that
way...

love your work.

On 2/13/08, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked
 by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking,
 etc.

 The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this
 much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss
 feeds etc.

 I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which
 incorporate these technologies.

 Stuart

 On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote:
  kevin mcmonagle wrote:
  yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a
 genre.
 
 
  That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself?
  Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism,
  Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?
 
  Kat
 
 
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RES: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Genau
I suggest a definition to web 2.0: 

The lysergic side of Internet.

 

Why?

 

As Timothy Leary, he defined a  thought.

As Beatles on Seargent Peppers

As Bush on War against terror

 

Is impossible to describe.

 

 

 

Genau Jr

Midiaweb Internet 

De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Em nome
de Richard Pendergast
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 13 de fevereiro de 2008 09:05
Para: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Assunto: Re: [WSG] hello

 

that is by far the most profound statement ive heard regarding web 2.0

totally spot on. funny how simple things become when you look at it that
way...

love your work.

On 2/13/08, Stuart Foulstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

Web 2.0 is basically what Web 1.0 was meant to be, before it was hijacked
by commerce, i.e. collaborative information sharing, social networking,
etc.

The difference is that nowadays we have Web technologies which make this
much easier and more extensive, e.g. Wikipedia and other wikis, blogs, rss
feeds etc.

I guess, from a design point of view, Web 2.0 is creating Websites which
incorporate these technologies.

Stuart

On Tue, February 12, 2008 10:52 pm, Katrina wrote:
 kevin mcmonagle wrote:
 yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.


 That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself?
 Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism,
 Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
Could somebody enlighten me as to what any of these irrelevant ramblings
about a marketing buzzphrase have to do with Web Standards?

NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread clarew
Nicely said. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Could somebody enlighten me as to what any of these irrelevant ramblings
about a marketing buzzphrase have to do with Web Standards?

NickFitz in about time to unsubscribe from this list if it's going to
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Very ironic.

On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Casey Farrell




touch.

Stuart Foulstone wrote:

  Very ironic.

On Wed, February 13, 2008 12:38 pm, Nick Fitzsimons wrote:

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread russ - maxdesign
OK enough. Lets stay on topic before we irritate the masses!

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-13 Thread Joe Ortenzi

This is a much better and interesting description of web 2.0.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6gmP4nk0EOE

if less technical...

Joe

On Feb 12 2008, at 13:14, russ - maxdesign wrote:

Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions  
of web 2.0:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is- 
web-20.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2

A good slide show on the topic:
http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/

Or, sit down with some popcorn and watch a web 2.0 video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LzQIUANnHc

HTH
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread libwebdev
Kat wrote:
Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself?


I don't know, but it's certainly *beyond* the web. Librarians around
the world have been flapping their arms and gums about Library 2.0
for ages, which, imo, is even more ridiculous than Web 2.0.

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Katrina

kevin mcmonagle wrote:

yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.


That's an interesting thought. Is Web 2.0 larger than the web itself? 
Has it become an art movement/period, in the same way as Modernism, 
Post-Modernism, Humanism, Impressionism, etc?


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread kevin mcmonagle

yes its a buzzword mostly but from a design standpoint its also a genre.


Thomas Thomassen wrote:

Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new.
It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users 
provide the content.
 





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2008-02-12 Thread Thomas Thomassen
Nothing. Web 2.0 is a buzzword. There's nothing truely new.
It's often accociated with social networking. Sites where the users provide the 
content.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Gitanjali 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:21 PM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] hello


  What is the difference between normal web template and web 2.0 templates???


  On Feb 12, 2008 6:40 PM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello aleagi

Thank you very much..


On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello Gitanjali,

  In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0.

  There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces
  between elements, large font sizes, and stuff...

  But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced.

  If this can help:
  http://www.templateworld.com/all_web_2.0_templates_1.html

  But, web 2.0 is more about structure of the pages like XHTML 1.0
  Strict (or 1.1) without errors, CSS well structured, tableless, WCAG
  1, 2 and 3...

  So, if your pages are already with this elements (well coded), the
  design will be a very easy thing to do. An advice: less is more! @;]

  Have a nice day!


  Regards,
  Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
  -
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  -
  http://sapiensdc.com.br





  On Feb 12, 2008 10:26 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello aleagi!
  
   i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hello Gitanjali,
   
Help with what?
   
Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...
   
What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).
   
Regards,
Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
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-
http://sapiensdc.com.br
   
   
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread aleagi
Hello Gitanjali,

Well, in my opinion, web 2.0 templates is more clean, spaced, balanced
and don't use elements like borders and heavy background images.

For instance, http://google.com, is the most web 2.0 that I know. @:D

Another ones:
http://del.icio.us/
http://furl.net/
http://digg.com/

What is common between this sites?

1. Clean as possible designs;
2. There's a box: round corner!
3. dégradé (gradient);

But, the most important of all:
Less is more.

There's a lot of sites that can inspire you to construct a web 2.0 template:

http://csszengarden.com/
http://cssremix.com/

Regards,
Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
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On Feb 12, 2008 11:21 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What is the difference between normal web template and web 2.0 templates???


 On Feb 12, 2008 6:40 PM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  Hello aleagi
 
  Thank you very much..
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello Gitanjali,
  
   In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0.
  
   There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces
   between elements, large font sizes, and stuff...
  
   But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced.
  
   If this can help:
   http://www.templateworld.com/all_web_2.0_templates_1.html
  
   But, web 2.0 is more about structure of the pages like XHTML 1.0
   Strict (or 1.1) without errors, CSS well structured, tableless, WCAG
   1, 2 and 3...
  
   So, if your pages are already with this elements (well coded), the
   design will be a very easy thing to do. An advice: less is more! @;]
  
   Have a nice day!
  
  
   Regards,
   Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
   -
   Nosce te ipsum
   -
   http://sapiensdc.com.br
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 12, 2008 10:26 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello aleagi!
   
i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0
   
   
   
   
   
   
On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hello Gitanjali,

 Help with what?

 Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...

 What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).

 Regards,
 Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
 -
 Nosce te ipsum
 -
 http://sapiensdc.com.br


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  Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please
 
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread aleagi
Hello Dave,

I supose you've said the right thing.

The most important thing is to be closes as possible to web standards,
accessibility and usability.

For the visual, in my sight, there's only one rule to be followed:
KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid. @:D

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On Feb 12, 2008 11:34 AM, Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Also, think about the important factors first when creating a website. Build
 something that satisfies the requirements, provides the function/content
 required, is accessible, usable and uses the latest web standards and if the
 site falls into the web2.0 category then so be it, if not then really who
 cares?



 On 12/02/2008, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web
 2.0:
 
 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2
 
  A good slide show on the topic:
  http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/
 
  Or, sit down with some popcorn and watch a web 2.0 video:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LzQIUANnHc
 
  HTH
  Russ
 
 
 
  on 12/2/08 11:07 PM, Gitanjali at wrote:
 
 
 
  Hello all!
 
  Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please
 
 
 
 
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2008-02-12 Thread russ - maxdesign
Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web
2.0:
http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.h
tml
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2

A good slide show on the topic:
http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/

Or, sit down with some popcorn and watch a web 2.0 video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LzQIUANnHc

HTH
Russ


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 Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please




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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Gitanjali
Hello aleagi

Thank you very much..

On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Gitanjali,

 In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0.

 There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces
 between elements, large font sizes, and stuff...

 But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced.

 If this can help:
 http://www.templateworld.com/all_web_2.0_templates_1.html

 But, web 2.0 is more about structure of the pages like XHTML 1.0
 Strict (or 1.1) without errors, CSS well structured, tableless, WCAG
 1, 2 and 3...

 So, if your pages are already with this elements (well coded), the
 design will be a very easy thing to do. An advice: less is more! @;]

 Have a nice day!

 Regards,
 Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
 -
 Nosce te ipsum
 -
 http://sapiensdc.com.br




  On Feb 12, 2008 10:26 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello aleagi!
 
  i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Hello Gitanjali,
  
   Help with what?
  
   Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...
  
   What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).
  
   Regards,
   Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
   -
   Nosce te ipsum
   -
   http://sapiensdc.com.br
  
  
   On Feb 12, 2008 10:07 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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2008-02-12 Thread Gitanjali
What is the difference between normal web template and web 2.0 templates???

On Feb 12, 2008 6:40 PM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello aleagi

 Thank you very much..

   On Feb 12, 2008 6:17 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hello Gitanjali,
 
  In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0.
 
  There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces
  between elements, large font sizes, and stuff...
 
  But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced.
 
  If this can help:
  http://www.templateworld.com/all_web_2.0_templates_1.html
 
  But, web 2.0 is more about structure of the pages like XHTML 1.0
  Strict (or 1.1) without errors, CSS well structured, tableless, WCAG
  1, 2 and 3...
 
  So, if your pages are already with this elements (well coded), the
  design will be a very easy thing to do. An advice: less is more! @;]
 
  Have a nice day!
 
  Regards,
  Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
  -
  Nosce te ipsum
  -
  http://sapiensdc.com.br
 
 
 
 
   On Feb 12, 2008 10:26 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hello aleagi!
  
   i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0
  
  
  
  
  
  
   On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hello Gitanjali,
   
Help with what?
   
Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...
   
What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).
   
Regards,
Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
-
Nosce te ipsum
-
http://sapiensdc.com.br
   
   
On Feb 12, 2008 10:07 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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2008-02-12 Thread aleagi
Hello Gitanjali,

In general, there's no rule to design to web 2.0.

There's a myth concerning that you have to use shades, a lot of spaces
between elements, large font sizes, and stuff...

But, in general, the design must be clean and balanced.

If this can help:
http://www.templateworld.com/all_web_2.0_templates_1.html

But, web 2.0 is more about structure of the pages like XHTML 1.0
Strict (or 1.1) without errors, CSS well structured, tableless, WCAG
1, 2 and 3...

So, if your pages are already with this elements (well coded), the
design will be a very easy thing to do. An advice: less is more! @;]

Have a nice day!

Regards,
Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
-
Nosce te ipsum
-
http://sapiensdc.com.br




On Feb 12, 2008 10:26 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello aleagi!

 i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0






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  Hello Gitanjali,
 
  Help with what?
 
  Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...
 
  What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).
 
  Regards,
  Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
  -
  Nosce te ipsum
  -
  http://sapiensdc.com.br
 
 
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2008-02-12 Thread Gitanjali
Actually i want to know wat is web 2.0, what is the difference between web
designing and web 2.0, how to design a template using web 2.0 etc..
is it a software or an application??
should v download det software? if yes den from where?




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 Hey Gitanjali,

 What help you want with Web 2.0 ?

 Are you a general web designer moving into Web2.0 Design ?

 regards,

 Varun
 Web Technologist
 http://varunkrish.com


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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Gitanjali
Hello aleagi!

i want to know what is web 2.0 and how to do a template using web 2.0




On Feb 12, 2008 5:45 PM, aleagi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Gitanjali,

 Help with what?

 Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...

 What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).

 Regards,
 Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
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 http://sapiensdc.com.br


 On Feb 12, 2008 10:07 AM, Gitanjali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello all!
 
  Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please
 
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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread varun krishnan
Hey Gitanjali,

What help you want with Web 2.0 ?

Are you a general web designer moving into Web2.0 Design ?

regards,

Varun
Web Technologist
http://varunkrish.com

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread aleagi
Hello Gitanjali,

Help with what?

Web 2.0 is a concept that has a lot of subjects to be discussed...

What do you want to know about web 2.0? (If this exists at all).

Regards,
Luiz Gustavo Aleagi Nunes
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http://sapiensdc.com.br


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[WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Gitanjali
Hello all!

Can anybody help me in web 2.0 please

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Re: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread Dave Woods
Also, think about the important factors first when creating a website. Build
something that satisfies the requirements, provides the function/content
required, is accessible, usable and uses the latest web standards and if the
site falls into the web2.0 category then so be it, if not then really who
cares?


On 12/02/2008, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Have a read of these for the official definitions or descriptions of web
 2.0:

 http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/oreilly/tim/news/2005/09/30/what-is-web-20.html
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2

 A good slide show on the topic:
 http://www.andybudd.com/presentations/dcontruct05/

 Or, sit down with some popcorn and watch a web 2.0 video:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LzQIUANnHc

 HTH
 Russ


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RE: [WSG] hello

2008-02-12 Thread michael.brockington
Basically, there is no difference.
Web 2 is basically just marketing-speak, loosely meaning The Currently
Fashionable Thing
 
Regards,
Mike
 


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What is the difference between normal web template and web 2.0
templates???

 



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[WSG] Hello from Perú

2005-12-01 Thread José Kusunoki Gutiérrez



Hello, 
My name is José Kusunoki im 23 and i work in a 
newspaper in the Multimedia Infographics area, im interested in standards and 
Mambo, how do you resolve theImage Galleryproblem and the image 
management problem?, i've heard that its too difficult to find an image gallery 
module and that its very difficult to manage images (upload, organize, etc) im 
talking about this because im thinking as a user that doesnt know anything about 
ftp, and web administration (cpanel, databases, etc)
--José Kusunoki 
G.Diseñador[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.constantconcept.com(511) 
97004563


[WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
Hello!
I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to 
say hello and introduce myself.
My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with 
XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6 
months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at 
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that 
it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments 
or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do them.

I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based 
systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up 
my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?

Thank you!
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Re: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread John Britsios
Zachary welcome at WSG!

My suggestions:

To your page MarkUp:
1. HTML 4.01 and XHTML require the legend element in fieldsets. Use this
element immediately after the fieldset start tag.

To your page accessibility:
1. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [Section 1194.22 (a)]

2. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [P1, 1.1]

John S. Britsios

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From: Zachary Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!


 Hello!

 I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to
 say hello and introduce myself.
 My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with
 XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6
 months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at
 http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that
 it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments
 or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do
them.

 I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based
 systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up
 my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?

 Thank you!

 --Zachary Hopkins

 -- 

 The best way to predict the future is to invent it.

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Re: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

2005-02-05 Thread Zachary Hopkins
Thank you John!
I will get these items updated today!
--Zachary
John Britsios wrote:
Zachary welcome at WSG!
My suggestions:
To your page MarkUp:
1. HTML 4.01 and XHTML require the legend element in fieldsets. Use this
element immediately after the fieldset start tag.
To your page accessibility:
1. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [Section 1194.22 (a)]
2. The input element (when type=image) requires the alt attribute to
specify a text equivalent. The text equivalent should be a short phrase that
succinctly identifies the image and makes its function clear. However, use
alt= when appropriate, such as when images are intended to format a page
(such as spacer images). [P1, 1.1]
John S. Britsios
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To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: [WSG] Hello fellow Web Standards people!

 

Hello!
I've just recently joined the WSG to get some tips, and I just wanted to
say hello and introduce myself.
My name is Zachary Hopkins, I'm 17 years old and I've been working with
XHTML, CSS, and accessible web standards such as WAI and 508 for about 6
months now, and I really like them!  You can check my website out at
http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/.  I'm doing my best to make sure that
it is an accessible and standards based website.  I welcome any comments
or suggestions, as I love to learn about new things and new ways to do
   

them.
 

I have been trying to test how my site looks on Mac and *nix based
systems, so if any of you have a free moment, perhaps you could open up
my site in Camino, Konqueror or Safari and let me know how it looks?
Thank you!
--Zachary Hopkins
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