Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Peter Ottery]

hi, thanks for your kind words and feedback peoples. have tried to quickly answer those main questions below:

re >> Just curious to know what the many lines of CDATA code achieve and the
reason for putting them inline?

no idea personally :) , but the dev guy says "it's definitely something
we want to move to an external file at some point in the future"

re >> With Firefox I went to
"Job Alert" and selected some industriesmy cursor appeared
somewhere above the textfield. Must have something to do with the css
positioning of your fields.

ugly indeed. forwarded.

re >> Hate to be the bearer of bad news

dont worry about that. if i was worried about the possibility of bad news i'd never get anything done ;-)

re >> The time it takes to load the home page on dial-up is awful ...  I guess "agility of the design and

the speed" is a relative term, but it took close to half a minute to load the page.

half a minute is actually better than i thought it'd be first time load over dialup. seen far worse.
the css file is hefty, and theres several large 'sprite' images that
hold navigation/tools/icon graphics. hopefully you'll find subsequent
page loads much speedier with the obvious caching benefits.

re >> home page doesn't even pass automated Section 508 accessibility checks

well spotted! forwarded.

re >> The design doesn't quite fit at 800x600 in my browsers (Firefox and IE6 on Win2K Pro) - a little too wide.

are you using one of those 'sizer' apps that changes your browser
window to a certain size that emulates a 800x600 display? be warned,
browser chrome has changed in the last few years and often their
calculations for width are out by a few pixels. try physically changing
your screen res and maximising the window. you may not get a horizontal
scrollbar.

re >> In Firefox, if I click on
the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it appears,
then disappears immediately).  I have to hold my mouse down and
drag to make a selection.  Annoying.

ugly indeed. forwarded.

re >> When you click on ADVERTISE. You only are left with a HOME tab.Just a little thing that threw me off a bit :)

bit off topic for this list but very on topic for the site. cheers, forwarded :)

re >> I would love to know whether the actual careers engine was an in-house thing or third-party.

in house

re >> if your concerned about my obsolete browser--the layout breaks in ie5 mac

theyre working on it

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thanks again for all the other feedback, techy stuff forwarded on & i'm sure they'll look into it :)

i'll buy yous a beer at the wsg meeting tonight. oh hang on, theyre
included in the cover change arent they? :) ok, i'll open it for you ;-)

pete

Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Kvnmcwebn]

Title: Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design



if your concerned about my obsolete browser--
the layout breaks in ie5 mac. 
Looks nice in mozilla though.

RE: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Townson, Chris]

On a quick inspection of the code, it looks great! 
Congratulations. Far and away the best jobs site I've seen, from 
a standards point of view.
 
One point: I noticed that a number of the form element 
labels lacked the for="" attribute to associate them with the 
appropriate input.
 
I would love to know whether the actual careers engine was 
an in-house thing or third-party. I've seen some perfectly good sites 
completely ruined by horrendous thrid-party code by people such as CareerCast 
(http://careercast.com/)
 
Chris


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very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:http://mycareer.com.au/its the next 
major site from the Fairfax Digital network to take on css layout as part of a 
redesign. the site gets hundreds of thousands of visitors a month and is one of 
australias largest job ad websites.check it out, be good to hear any 
feedback/ideas for further improvement. as always with a large scale commercial 
project there are comprimises made in some areas, but for the most part i'm 
pretty darn happy with the design.css was a huge part of the redesign 
(which also overhauled some of the information architecture).all the 
developers were keen on the benefits and the business people love the agility of 
the design and the speed.cheers,pete otteryps: i'm no longer 
at fairfax digital but designing the site was the last major project i did 
before leaving.rest assured i'll pass on any feedback to them 
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Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Chris Stratford]

Wow its a great looking site!
I would have to agree that it does take its time to load (and I am on a 
10 megabit connection here too).
Love the tabs and the whole navigation set - definatly easy for me to 
find what I want.
I did some searches because I am looking for a 6month internship as an 
engineering undergrad - but the max salary was pointless, why limit your 
search? Just set it to 200k, even though i know that no company will 
hire a 2nd year uni student at 200k a year lol.

It was said previously, it is 2 or 3 pixels too wide to fit perfectly in 
800*600...
Bear in mind it does fit fine if there is no vertical scroll bar.

One thing I find odd.
When you click on ADVERTISE.
You only are left with a HOME tab.
Most people would think it is the same HOME as on the main page.
But it isn't.
You are actually at the home page of the advertising section.
I know its kind of sectioned off on the right (the advertising link) to 
begin with.
But why do you loose the orther tabs (shouldnt they be on the right??)
and why can't I get back to the home page, via the Home link??
I know you can click the main logo.

Just a little thing that threw me off a bit :)

Peter Ottery wrote:
very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
http://mycareer.com.au/
its the next major site from the Fairfax Digital network to take on 
css layout as part of a redesign. the site gets hundreds of thousands 
of visitors a month and is one of australias largest job ad websites.

check it out, be good to hear any feedback/ideas for further 
improvement. as always with a large scale commercial project there are 
comprimises made in some areas, but for the most part i'm pretty darn 
happy with the design.

css was a huge part of the redesign (which also overhauled some of the 
information architecture).
all the developers were keen on the benefits and the business people 
love the agility of the design and the speed.

cheers,
pete ottery
ps: i'm no longer at fairfax digital but designing the site was the 
last major project i did before leaving.
rest assured i'll pass on any feedback to them :)


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RE: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Lea de Groot]

On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 16:08:12 +1000, Mike Kear wrote:
> Incidentally I'm not sure why you'd want a max salary field, unless you've
> ever heard of someone saying "what??? No!!! You're not going to pay me that
> much!  I'm only going to work for half that"   That's certainly an
> expression I can't imagine ever uttering myself.  

No, it does make sense.
There's a maximum figure you know you can't earn more than given a 
current skill set. It makes sense to specify that.
a) it saves db cpu
b) it stops returning useless results to the searcher.
both good things.

HIH
Lea
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Design
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RE: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Mike Kear]

Nice Job, Peter.  You have every right to be proud of it. 

Incidentally I'm not sure why you'd want a max salary field, unless you've
ever heard of someone saying "what??? No!!! You're not going to pay me that
much!  I'm only going to work for half that"   That's certainly an
expression I can't imagine ever uttering myself.  

Good work.  You're a leader in our industry.


Cheers
Mike Kear
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One more thing and then I'll go   In Firefox, if I click on 
the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it 
appears, then disappears immediately).  I have to hold my mouse 
down and drag to make a selection.  Annoying.\
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Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Bert Doorn]

G'day
Peter Ottery wrote:
very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
http://mycareer.com.au/

css was a huge part of the redesign (which also overhauled some of the 
information architecture).
all the developers were keen on the benefits and the business people love 
the agility of the design and the speed.
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but...
The time it takes to load the home page on dial-up is awful (and 
that's with flash disabled).  I guess "agility of the design and 
the speed" is a relative term, but it took close to half a minute 
to load the page.

Also, the home page doesn't even pass automated Section 508 
accessibility checks, let alone anything more stringent.

The design doesn't quite fit at 800x600 in my browsers (Firefox 
and IE6 on Win2K Pro) - a little too wide.

One more thing and then I'll go   In Firefox, if I click on 
the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it 
appears, then disappears immediately).  I have to hold my mouse 
down and drag to make a selection.  Annoying.

Regards
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Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Andreas Boehmer]

> 
> very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
> http://mycareer.com.au/

> check it out, be good to hear any feedback/ideas for further improvement. 

Interesting bug:

With Firefox I went to "Job Alert" and selected some industries, but
didn't enter a name for the alert. After submitting I get an error
message telling me I should enter a name for the alert. Fair enough.
When I scrolled down and clicked with the cursor into the name field, my
cursor appeared somewhere above the textfield.

Must have something to do with the css positioning of your fields.

Andreas.
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Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

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Peter
Just curious to know what the many lines of CDATA code achieve and the 
reason for putting them inline?

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Peter Ottery wrote:
very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
http://mycareer.com.au/
its the next major site from the Fairfax Digital network to take on css 
layout as part of a redesign. the site gets hundreds of thousands of 
visitors a month and is one of australias largest job ad websites.

check it out, be good to hear any feedback/ideas for further improvement. as 
always with a large scale commercial project there are comprimises made in 
some areas, but for the most part i'm pretty darn happy with the design.

css was a huge part of the redesign (which also overhauled some of the 
information architecture).
all the developers were keen on the benefits and the business people love 
the agility of the design and the speed.

cheers,
pete ottery
ps: i'm no longer at fairfax digital but designing the site was the last 
major project i did before leaving.
rest assured i'll pass on any feedback to them :)
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[WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

[Peter Ottery]

very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
http://mycareer.com.au/

its the next major site from the Fairfax Digital network to take on css
layout as part of a redesign. the site gets hundreds of thousands of
visitors a month and is one of australias largest job ad websites.

check it out, be good to hear any feedback/ideas for further
improvement. as always with a large scale commercial project there are
comprimises made in some areas, but for the most part i'm pretty darn
happy with the design.

css was a huge part of the redesign (which also overhauled some of the information architecture).
all the developers were keen on the benefits and the business people love the agility of the design and the speed.

cheers,
pete ottery

ps: i'm no longer at fairfax digital but designing the site was the last major project i did before leaving.
rest assured i'll pass on any feedback to them :)