Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
Hy simon, Legends a very nasty to style and position you should wrap the legend text in a span (or some other inline! element) to be able to position it. -- cheers Milan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
Tried display: none;?
Regards,
Svip
2008/4/30 Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
I've got a search box and login area that I want to use a fieldset and
legend on for accessibility but I don't want to show the legend to normal
users. Now I can easily hide it with display: none; but I understand this is
hidden from certain screenreaders as well, which well render the benefit of
it being there pointless as they are the type of user I am implementing it
for.
I have tried:
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left:0px;
top:-500px;
width:1px;
height:1px;
overflow:hidden;
}
And:
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left: -999em;
width: 990em;
}
But it just sits there, am I missing something obvious and has anyone had
any joy with something similar?
Thanks very much
Simon
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RE: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
I can't believe I didn't try that. Works a treat, thanks! Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lord Armitage Sent: 30 April 2008 20:46 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends? Hy simon, Legends a very nasty to style and position you should wrap the legend text in a span (or some other inline! element) to be able to position it. -- cheers Milan *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
Well then, only tell him to use the hidden part for specific media,
such as projection or whatever. Don't screenreaders obey that?
Regards,
Svip
2008/4/30 Dan Brickley [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Svip wrote:
Tried display: none;?
Now I can easily hide it with display: none; but
Apparently so...
Regards,
Svip
2008/4/30 Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
I've got a search box and login area that I want to use a fieldset and
legend on for accessibility but I don't want to show the legend to
normal
users. Now I can easily hide it with display: none; but I understand
this is
hidden from certain screenreaders as well, which well render the
benefit of
it being there pointless as they are the type of user I am implementing
it
for.
I have tried:
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left:0px;
top:-500px;
width:1px;
height:1px;
overflow:hidden;
}
And:
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left: -999em;
width: 990em;
}
But it just sits there, am I missing something obvious and has anyone
had
any joy with something similar?
Thanks very much
Simon
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Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
I've got a search box and login area that I want to use a fieldset and legend on for accessibility but I don't want to show the legend to normal users. I'm sorry but what is a normal user? Dennis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
By that I meant someone who sees and interacts with the website in the most common way. Seeing the page, viewing it with CSS images on, using a mouse etc. The user most people design their sites for. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Lapcewich Sent: 30 April 2008 22:02 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends? I've got a search box and login area that I want to use a fieldset and legend on for accessibility but I don't want to show the legend to normal users. I'm sorry but what is a normal user? Dennis *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left: -999em;
width: 990em;
}
For that method you're missing the overflow rule. Try this:
.hidden {
position: absolute;
left: -5000px;
width: 4000px;
overflow: hidden;
}
cheers,
Ben
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RE: [WSG] Best way to hide form legends?
I figured that was what you meant. At the same time, it can be a dangerous assumption. For example, by the time an individual starts kicking at 40 years old, changes to the eyes occur. It's called presbyopia. It's a normal course of aging that literally affects 100 percent of people at some time in their lives as they age. Add into the mix that populations in general are aging, online populations include people of all ages and more and more older folks. So for all intents and purposes, addressing the needs of normal users includes accessibility as a normal course of doing business for site owners and those who manage those web sites. The real problem is convincing the site owners that accessibility is good business and does provide tangible and intangible benefits. I guess it all boils down to whether you want to be dragged kicking in screaming into reality (and possibly pay the costs for such short-sightedness) or accept life for what it is and address accessibility for what we all will experience to some degree. I choose the latter, regardless of the fact it's required by law for me. Dennis By that I meant someone who sees and interacts with the website in the most common way. Seeing the page, viewing it with CSS images on, using a mouse etc. The user most people design their sites for. I've got a search box and login area that I want to use a fieldset and legend on for accessibility but I don't want to show the legend to normal users. I'm sorry but what is a normal user? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
