Re: [WSG] IE Madness
On 18 Aug 2005 at 9:58, Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html Hello Bob, is this only a bug of my IE.V6 (SP2) without JavaScript? Opera and FireFox are good. A snapshot: http://www.sql-und-xml.de/temp/fifeweb.gif The menu overlaps the main content. Regards Juergen Auer http://www.sql-und-xml.de/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
I don't think it is a bug, it's just the result of not having jscript turned on (the menu is a p7 Pop Magic Menu, which is jscript driven).On 19 Aug, 2005, at 1:12 PM, Juergen Auer wrote:On 18 Aug 2005 at 9:58, Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page:http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html Hello Bob,is this only a bug of my IE.V6 (SP2) without _javascript_? Opera and FireFox are good.A snapshot:http://www.sql-und-xml.de/temp/fifeweb.gifThe menu overlaps the main content.RegardsJuergen Auerhttp://www.sql-und-xml.de/**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
From: Juergen Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] is this only a bug of my IE.V6 (SP2) without JavaScript? Opera and FireFox are good. A snapshot: http://www.sql-und-xml.de/temp/fifeweb.gif The menu overlaps the main content. That is correct behavior for that menu with script disabled. The problem is that we recommend that the sub-menu ULs be kept the same width or slightly wider than the root UL to prevent content overlap for user agents with script disabled. The menu can also be extensively tweaked to provide custom levels of accessibility, as described in this article: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/accessibility/pop_integrated/ Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Thanks Al for the tip, though in this case those with jscript turned off are going to have a lot of other problems on this site as well. However, as I want everyone (within reason) to be able to use the site, I will read the tutorial and see if I can tweak the menu to display better for those without jscript. Any ideas on the cause of the problem in the original question in this thread? On 19 Aug, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Al Sparber wrote: From: Juergen Auer [EMAIL PROTECTED] is this only a bug of my IE.V6 (SP2) without JavaScript? Opera and FireFox are good. A snapshot: http://www.sql-und-xml.de/temp/fifeweb.gif The menu overlaps the main content. That is correct behavior for that menu with script disabled. The problem is that we recommend that the sub-menu ULs be kept the same width or slightly wider than the root UL to prevent content overlap for user agents with script disabled. The menu can also be extensively tweaked to provide custom levels of accessibility, as described in this article: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/accessibility/pop_integrated/ Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Bob Schwartz wrote: Thanks Al for the tip, though in this case those with jscript turned off are going to have a lot of other problems on this site as well. However, as I want everyone (within reason) to be able to use the site, I will read the tutorial and see if I can tweak the menu to display better for those without jscript. Any ideas on the cause of the problem in the original question in this thread? I'm afraid I can't seem to find it. Can I impose on you to repost it? -- Al ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
On 19 Aug, 2005, at 4:27 PM, Al Sparber wrote:Bob Schwartz wrote: Thanks Al for the tip, though in this case those with jscript turnedoff are going to have a lot of other problems on this site as well.However, as I want everyone (within reason) to be able to use thesite, I will read the tutorial and see if I can tweak the menu todisplay better for those without jscript.Any ideas on the cause of the problem in the original question inthis thread? I'm afraid I can't seem to find it. Can I impose on you to repost it?-- Al Sure:On this page:http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.htmlI have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One)which should send a visitor to:http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#topand it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message:Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html.Operation aborted.It seems as if IE is striping off the #top fragment.Anyone know how to fix this?Thanks,Bob Schwartz
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html. Operation aborted. I can't duplicate the error, with or without JavaScript enabled - though that would not have anything to do with it. It could be an esoteric security setting or some over-ambitious third-party security software. One thing you could try is changing the name/ID of that anchor. Top is not a good idea as it could be reserved either by IE or situationally by another application running along with IE. Change that anchor to pageTop and see if that helps. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Thanks Al, changing to pagetop seems to have done the trick. On 19 Aug, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Al Sparber wrote: Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html. Operation aborted. I can't duplicate the error, with or without JavaScript enabled - though that would not have anything to do with it. It could be an esoteric security setting or some over-ambitious third-party security software. One thing you could try is changing the name/ID of that anchor. Top is not a good idea as it could be reserved either by IE or situationally by another application running along with IE. Change that anchor to pageTop and see if that helps. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// Bob, I can reproduce the error - life (on the second try, that means, the first jump is ok) - and on a local copy of your file (permanent). changing the link href to ...#logo instead of #top worked well. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Thanks, I followed a tip from Al Sparber and changed #top to #pagetop and that seems to have done the trick. Who knows what lurks in the mind of IE Windows On 19 Aug, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Ingo Chao wrote: Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// Bob, I can reproduce the error - life (on the second try, that means, the first jump is ok) - and on a local copy of your file (permanent). changing the link href to ...#logo instead of #top worked well. Ingo -- http://www.satzansatz.de/css.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Works fine for me in IE6/WinXP/SP2. Normally, I'd recommend you uninstall and reinstall your browser... but wait... it's IE, and I doubt you want to reformat. *evil grin*
RE: [WSG] IE Madness
Works fine on IE5.5. I did notice you don't have a name="top"/a which might fix your problem. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenny GrahamSent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 3:45 AMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] IE Madness Works fine for me in IE6/WinXP/SP2. Normally, I'd recommend you uninstall and reinstall your browser... but wait... it's IE, and I doubt you want to reformat. *evil grin*
RE: [WSG] IE Madness
Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html. Operation aborted. It seems as if IE is striping off the #top fragment. Anyone know how to fix this? Bob, I had never seen this before last week, when I got quite the surprise myself as IE spit out Operation aborted at me. So far though, I haven't been able to figure it out either. I'm doing some testing a design work for ideaShrub (http://ideashrub.com) and there's a page that does the same thing you mention here. John Resig and I are working on figuring out what the problem is, and if we do, I'll be sure to post a follow-up here on the WSG list. Here's hoping for some answers Patrick Patrick Haney Not a sausage http://patrickhaney.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE Madness
Patrick Haney wrote: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html. Operation aborted. It seems as if IE is striping off the #top fragment. Anyone know how to fix this? Bob, Late to the party, but I cannot replicate this problem (IE 6.0.2 / W2K). FWIW... JF -- John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca Phone: 1-613-482-7053 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE Madness
Bob Schwartz wrote: On this page: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_02.html I have a link at the bottom of the page (Back To Page One) which should send a visitor to: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html#top and it does in all the browsers I have tried except IE Windows which gives the following error message: Internet Explorer cannot open the internet site http:// www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html. Operation aborted. I cannot replicate this behavior (IE6.0.2/WinXP Pro) But I have a question for you: what's the purpose of using a fragment identifier to get to the top of that page? Wouldn't you get the same result, using: http://www.fifeweb.org/wp/events/evnt_ga_res_2005_01.html Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
