RE: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Mike Foskett
Hi,

These days I code for Mozilla.
Then iron out the IE incompatibilities.

mike 2k:)2
 


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Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Joe Leech

http://www.itweek.co.uk/News/1155868 :
Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web 
browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment.

I think the main problem with switching browsers is visible right there 
on the page.  The header breaks in non IE browsers.  If the user is to 
switch browsers then there should be not detrimental effects to the 
experience.  Unfortunately too many sites are *IE only* and look like a 
dogs dinner in anything else. 

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Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Kay Smoljak
I guess it depends on the kinds of sites you visit (and perhaps what
you feed your dog) - I come across very few these days that don't look
ok in Firefox. And I don't just visit the sites of web standards
advocates, honest! Even all four of the internet banking applications
I use work fine in Firefox (although Westpac's main side nav doesn't
work, which doesn't prevent me from logging into the banking app).

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Kay Smoljak
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:09:56 +0100, Joe Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the main problem with switching browsers is visible right there
 on the page.  The header breaks in non IE browsers.  If the user is to
 switch browsers then there should be not detrimental effects to the
 experience.  Unfortunately too many sites are *IE only* and look like a
 dogs dinner in anything else.
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RE: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-17 Thread Nancy Johnson
Most people I believe are unaware that there are multiple browsers.  If
this warning hits the network news, it may raise some awareness among
the average computer user.  

Most people have no idea what web standards are.

Nancy Johnson


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I guess it depends on the kinds of sites you visit (and perhaps what
you feed your dog) - I come across very few these days that don't look
ok in Firefox. And I don't just visit the sites of web standards
advocates, honest! Even all four of the internet banking applications
I use work fine in Firefox (although Westpac's main side nav doesn't
work, which doesn't prevent me from logging into the banking app).

-- 
Kay Smoljak
http://kay.smoljak.com

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 09:09:56 +0100, Joe Leech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think the main problem with switching browsers is visible right
there
 on the page.  The header breaks in non IE browsers.  If the user is to
 switch browsers then there should be not detrimental effects to the
 experience.  Unfortunately too many sites are *IE only* and look like
a
 dogs dinner in anything else.
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Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-16 Thread Patrick Griffiths
  Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web
  browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment.

 Now the question is will anybody switch?

Wow. Wouldn't it be great if people did?

I think what would be better than individuals switching would be for
computer manufacturers to pre-install Mozilla or Opera on PC's. That's
the main reason why such a majority of people don't switch - they stick
with what's on their system (which is why there's still a sizeable
market share using IE 5).


Patrick Griffiths (PTG)
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Subject: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers


 This may be good news for standards.

 http://www.itweek.co.uk/News/1155868 :

  Ubizen has advised computer users to switch to alternative web
  browsers like Netscape or Mozilla for the moment.

 Also at:
 http://www.ubizen.com/c_about_us/2_public_relations/2004/040611_e.html

 Now the question is will anybody switch?

 Note: I have nothing against MS. If there browser was standards
 compliant and
 didn't have more holes than Swiss cheese, I would have much to
complain
 about (then again, there's always Windows).


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Re: [WSG] Safety experts advise switching browsers

2004-06-16 Thread Mordechai Peller
Patrick Griffiths wrote:
I think what would be better than individuals switching would be for
computer manufacturers to pre-install Mozilla or Opera on PC's.
It would be nice if Opera would do this. I don't see it as a possibility 
with Mozilla for a very simple reason: money. Another possibility, 
probably the most likely, though still somewhat unlikely, is to start to 
see corporate level switches.

which is why there's still a sizeable market share using IE 5
 

...which is why I'm not holding my breath.
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