Re: [WSG] Open critique?
Cameron Russ, Thank you both for your feedback! (And especially to Cameron for the recognition!) It seems some of the folks at webstandardsawards.com and CSS Vault are being a little... ahem... forceful with their comments. :) As for the constructive criticism: Print CSS - I'd nearly forgotten about this until today, so I'm spending some time on bringing it up to snuff. I think it was working better early on in the development process, but as the CSS for the site changed it has ceased to make a lot of sense. Font size - This is an issue I've actually been having a lot of trouble with, since the site is so tightly constructed. I know I could do at least a little better with the alternate stylesheets, but sizing up the fonts through the browser doesn't let me do the same kind of shifting of elements... Do you have any suggestions about how to handle this sort of thing? (from the webstandardsawards comments:) Colorblindness - I hadn't really thought about this since the site is so monochromatic. My understanding was that the issues were much more of two juxtaposed colors than simply one of value -- Anyone have suggestions for where to look for more on this topic? No JS-navigation - Noticed this about the same time the site went up on there, I believe, and I must have fixed it while he was posting his comment. Funny. :) Style-switchers - Very good comments there on this feature, which I'll take into account when I can partner up with the .NET developer. (I'm only in charge of front-end on this one.) Again, thanks for the feedback! I'm really enjoying the discussions on this list... Nate .: Nate Cook : 773 405 4073 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.natecook.com :. On Mar 6, 2004, at 1:47 AM, russ weakley wrote: Some interesting comments already: http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/aiga_atlanta.html#comments The first comment is simply opinion on the design, but the second comment mentions some good accessibility issues that should be considered. Russ Forget CSS Vault, I already awarded it on Web Standards Awards! :-] http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Open critique? - colour deficiency
Nate, The term Colour blindness is now frowned on. Apparently colour deficiency is the more correct term - for what it's worth. :) Anyway, there are basically three types of colour deficiency. They are: 1. Deuteranope (a form of red/green colour deficit) 2. Protanope (another form of red/green colour deficit) 3. Tritanope (a blue/yellow deficit- very rare) You can check to see if you have red/green colour deficiency here: http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.html Visicheck has an online tool that allows you to see how an image or website will look to those with Deuteranope, Protanope or Tritanope. http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckURL.php HTH Russ Colorblindness - I hadn't really thought about this since the site is so monochromatic. My understanding was that the issues were much more of two juxtaposed colors than simply one of value -- Anyone have suggestions for where to look for more on this topic? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Open critique?
Nate, I, too, was surprised at the 'forcefulness' of some of the feedback. I would be interested to know whether they could come anywhere close to your level of aesthetic competence. I was hugely impressed when I saw what you had done. There is a tension, isn't there, between the aesthetic and the accessible? Not always easily resolved. One thing I wanted to ask you about was why you chose to use graphic headers in the right hand boxes. Your large type in the left hand coloured boxes is very successful. -Hugh Todd Again, thanks for the feedback! I'm really enjoying the discussions on this list. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Open critique?
Hi Nate, Welcome to the list. Open critiques on this list are great - as long as feedback is helpful rather than abrasive. :) Criticism or praise? How about some praise: I have only looked at the front page but I think it's an excellent example of a web standards based portal. The main page has a lot of content but it is all easy to access and digest. The layout is nice and fresh. The site is valid (xhtml and css) and makes excellent use of semantic code - nested lists for main nav. Even the additional content for non-css browsers is cool - the hidden hr /'s to help break up the content and skip menus for text-based browsers and screen readers. It looks good in Lynx as well as most of the standards compliant browsers: http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aiga-atl.org http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=49464 Minor, nit-picky criticisms: Print CSS has some bugs in Mac/IE5. Bumping up the default font size more than two sizes causes the page to start breaking badly. These are minor issues. I reckon it's an excellent site! Have you submitted it to CSS Vault? 2 cents Russ Hi all -- I'm new here, and curious if opening up a site to critique is inside the purview of this list. Having recently launched the AIGA Atlanta site, trying to rely completely on standards and semantic markup, I'm still working on figuring out all the best practices and what kind of trade-offs can/should be made... If anyone's interested, I'd be happy to hear criticism (or praise, of course) on the site (www.aiga-atl.org) and/or ideas for how to take the semantic-ness further, etc. And I'd be happy to answer any questions about the production that come up... Thanks so much! nate .: Nate Cook : 773 405 4073 : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.natecook.com :. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Open critique?
Some interesting comments already: http://www.webstandardsawards.com/previous/aiga_atlanta.html#comments The first comment is simply opinion on the design, but the second comment mentions some good accessibility issues that should be considered. Russ Forget CSS Vault, I already awarded it on Web Standards Awards! :-] http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
