Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Jamie Collins

Have you tryed giving your #wrapper a height or min-height: should i say.

There is no way to have the bottom of your graphic 'Cut-Off' but you can
stop your wrapper from resizing itself when the font goes smaller.

I would have a poper look but remove that stupid password because every
time i try and use firebug to edit the CSS its asking me for the password
every few seconds.

On 6/18/07, Tee G. Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


In this page I have the photo placed in body background with fixed
position. When fontsize enlarge, the bottom part of the photo shows
the background color which is fine because I intentionally wanted it
appears as if it's part of the design, however when fontsize reduces,
the footer moves up as expected, but I want to make the bottom part
of photo moves up with the footer.

I can't think of a way to make it happens. Can it be done with CSS?

http://project.lotusseedsdesign.com/wandahennig/

login: public/public

thanks!

tee


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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Robert O'Rourke

Tee G. Peng wrote:
In this page I have the photo placed in body background with fixed 
position. When fontsize enlarge, the bottom part of the photo shows 
the background color which is fine because I intentionally wanted it 
appears as if it's part of the design, however when fontsize reduces, 
the footer moves up as expected, but I want to make the bottom part of 
photo moves up with the footer.


I can't think of a way to make it happens. Can it be done with CSS?

http://project.lotusseedsdesign.com/wandahennig/

login: public/public

thanks!

tee



Hi Tee,
nice looking page! It doesn't get a vertical scroll bar though (firefox 
2 latest)...
could you attach the background image to the bottom of the main content 
area as opposed to a fixed position on the body? that way it would move 
up if the text size was reduced.


One other thing I noticed was when you hover the large links they change 
height slightly, looks nice but when you hover just on the edge you get 
some mad flickering. You could maintain the height by replacing the 
padding with a transparent border.


hope that makes sense

Rob


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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Robert O'Rourke
sorry Tee, misread your question. Put the background image in the div 
that has the white background (#container i think) and it won't show up 
below the footer.


@Jamie: that password isn't stupid just because it gives firebug a hard 
time. Why not use chris pederick's developer toolbar AND firebug? you 
can have your cake and eat it too.




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RE: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Jamie Collins

 There is no way to have the bottom of your graphic 'Cut-Off' but you can
 stop your wrapper from resizing itself when the font goes smaller. 

I believe it could be cut-off if Tee was using #wraper instead of body
to hold that background image.
I agree that min-height would work well here.

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Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com






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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Tee G. Peng

Hi Jamie, Rob and Thierry

Have you tryed giving your #wrapper a height or min-height: should  
i say.


Yeah! min-height works better and I needed to move the photo to the  
#container


I would have a poper look but remove that stupid password because  
every
time i try and use firebug to edit the CSS its asking me for the  
password

every few seconds.


Sorry about this.

tee



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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Tee G. Peng


On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Robert O'Rourke wrote:



Hi Tee,
nice looking page! It doesn't get a vertical scroll bar though  
(firefox 2 latest)...
could you attach the background image to the bottom of the main  
content area as opposed to a fixed position on the body? that way  
it would move up if the text size was reduced.


Thanks Rob.

I think for notebook users,  vertical sroll bar will show . Moving  
photo to the container creates a small problem, with vertical  
scrolling, the tagline image jumps. I need to work out a precise  
calculation in pixel or change that big image to alpha PNG.


One other thing I noticed was when you hover the large links they  
change height slightly, looks nice but when you hover just on the  
edge you get some mad flickering. You could maintain the height by  
replacing the padding with a transparent border.


 Ah yah! I was thinking to have a pseudo javascript transition  
effect  :). Thanks for the tips!



tee


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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Robert O'Rourke

Tee G. Peng wrote:


On Jun 18, 2007, at 9:39 AM, Robert O'Rourke wrote:



Hi Tee,
nice looking page! It doesn't get a vertical scroll bar though 
(firefox 2 latest)...
could you attach the background image to the bottom of the main 
content area as opposed to a fixed position on the body? that way it 
would move up if the text size was reduced.


Thanks Rob.

I think for notebook users,  vertical sroll bar will show . Moving 
photo to the container creates a small problem, with vertical 
scrolling, the tagline image jumps. I need to work out a precise 
calculation in pixel or change that big image to alpha PNG.


One other thing I noticed was when you hover the large links they 
change height slightly, looks nice but when you hover just on the 
edge you get some mad flickering. You could maintain the height by 
replacing the padding with a transparent border.


 Ah yah! I was thinking to have a pseudo javascript transition effect  
:). Thanks for the tips!



tee



All looking good now, just that fixed background to sort out. You either 
need to make that top banner into a png overlay to go over the photo of 
Wanda or simply remove the fixed declaration from the container 
background style. I think IE6 only respects background position fixed on 
the body element which I guess is why you had it there to begin with... 
In that case I think Jamie's solution is the one to go for, along with 
an alpha png top banner and the background fixed as you had it before.


Nice work =]

Rob



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RE: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Thierry Koblentz
 On Behalf Of Robert O'Rourke
 
 One other thing I noticed was when you hover the large links they
 change
 height slightly, looks nice but when you hover just on the edge you get
 some mad flickering. You could maintain the height by replacing the
 padding with a transparent border.

I may be wrong, but I'm not sure ie6 does transparent border (if I recall,
it turns them black).

---
Regards,
Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com






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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Tee G. Peng


On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:




I may be wrong, but I'm not sure ie6 does transparent border (if I  
recall,

it turns them black).



Yeah, it doesn't. I actually not sure how to write the rule.
I had {border-top: 5px transaprent},
{border-top: 5px; border-color: transaprent}

It doesn't work in Firefox and Safari, then I realized even if I got  
it correct it probably won't won't in IE.


So I used {border-top: 5px solid wheat } /* wheat the same color as  
the h2 background */


By the way, I have a question regarding fixed background position

it doesn't work in this way in Safari and Firefox either.
#container {background: url(image.jpg) fixed no-repeat}
so I changed to
 #container {background-position: fixed}

But I am certain this works
body {background: url(image.jpg) fixed no-repeat}

why?


tee


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Re: [WSG] auto-hiding bottom part of bg image when resizing fontsize

2007-06-18 Thread Robert O'Rourke

Tee G. Peng wrote:


On Jun 18, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:




I may be wrong, but I'm not sure ie6 does transparent border (if I 
recall,

it turns them black).



Yeah, it doesn't. I actually not sure how to write the rule.
I had {border-top: 5px transaprent},
{border-top: 5px; border-color: transaprent}

It doesn't work in Firefox and Safari, then I realized even if I got 
it correct it probably won't won't in IE.


So I used {border-top: 5px solid wheat } /* wheat the same color as 
the h2 background */


sorry about that, thanks for the gotcha Thierry!



By the way, I have a question regarding fixed background position

it doesn't work in this way in Safari and Firefox either.
#container {background: url(image.jpg) fixed no-repeat}
so I changed to
 #container {background-position: fixed}


Im pretty sure it was working for me in Firefox just before... the 
background image scrolled with the page. Not sure why it wouldn't have 
worked for you.




But I am certain this works
body {background: url(image.jpg) fixed no-repeat}

why?


It's one of IE6's many peculiarities, I just came across this adaptation 
of Eric Meyer's complex spiral demo after some googling:

http://www.gunlaug.no/tos/borrowed/complexspiral.html

should make things a little clearer regarding background attachment.




tee


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