Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion for Additional Checkbox

[Neil Zampella]

There is already a F/H mode, safely placed where it can't be
accidentally checked as the old VHF contest box (at least I believe it
was the VHF contest) was at one point.

The suggestion has been to clone your current FT8 configuration, and set
up the frequencies in that clone to the DXPedition frequencies.    All
you have to do is switch to that configuration, and you're already set
to go.

However, if you're talking about being able to switch because you see
what looks like F/H in the standard FT8 frequencies, its not WSJT-X
DXPedition mode, but another program using the FT8 sources for
encode/decode but a different 'multi-thread' mode that does NOT block
out the standard frequencies.

I would not want to see such a change as it then rewards bad behavior
(IMHO).

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 4/20/2019 5:46 PM, Frank Kirschner wrote:

Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is
room for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound
mode. I would also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig
or Fake It, which could be selected somewhere else.

If the menus are turned off, it takes a while to turn them on and
navigate to the correct spot to set fox/hound and split mode. This
sometimes is long enough to miss a weak one. A checkbox would not only
make it faster, but it would encourage using that mode for those who
are still learning FT8 operation.

73,
Frank
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion for Additional Checkbox

[WB5JJJ]

F/H is not something you would normally select on a frequent basis, so a
check box cluttering the main screen is not necessary.

As previously suggested setting a Configuration for that mode (and others)
are just 2 clicks away and totally customizable.  This procedure is
outlined in the User Manual.  It's simple and effective.

WB5JJJ - George

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 7:44 PM Frank Kirschner 
wrote:

> Good idea. I'm not familiar enough with the program to have thought of
> that. Thanks.
>
> 73,
> Frank
> KF6E
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 6:16 PM N3SL  wrote:
>
>> Just a suggestion - works for me:  Create a F/H "configuration" and
>> toggle to it.  Two mouse clicks.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Frank Kirschner <
>> frank.kirsch...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is
>>> room for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound mode. I
>>> would also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig or Fake It,
>>> which could be selected somewhere else.
>>>
>>> If the menus are turned off, it takes a while to turn them on and
>>> navigate to the correct spot to set fox/hound and split mode. This
>>> sometimes is long enough to miss a weak one. A checkbox would not only make
>>> it faster, but it would encourage using that mode for those who are still
>>> learning FT8 operation.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Frank
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[Richard Solomon]

My MO is to ctrl-click on what looks like an empty freq.
If I don't see anything after 2 or 3 cycles I feel it's OK
to xmt on that freq.
I also use split exclusively.

73, Dick, W1KSZ

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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times



 click moves Rx, ctl-click moves both, shift click moves Tx.  I knew something 
moved them both...and sometimes I hit control instead of shift in the heat of 
he moment.

I think it would be better user interface design to have "move Rx" be left 
click and "move Tx" to be right click, so those basic functions can each be 
done with one hand. But that's another topic.

Do you have any theories on why a station gets covered by another station on 
exactly the same frequuency +/- 1-2 Hz?

I don't know, maybe the other station chose that frequency because it looked 
clear to transmit (the weak station was weak enough that they didn't see it). 
On a crowded FT8 segment, like 14.074 in the evening here, signals are packed 
in like sardines and you have to do your best to find a relatively open slot.

Or maybe he was just a lid! But IMHO it's going to be futile to try to 
eliminate liddish behavior through software.

73, Paul K6PO


On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:05 AM Paul Kube 
mailto:paul.k...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Jeff,

What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can see them 
in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx Frequency and so 
the transmitter frequency is automatically following the Rx frequency.

Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves the Rx 
frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.

73, Paul K6PO


On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver 
mailto:kd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and not the 
generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable for the 
development side, to be honest...

73,

Jim S.
N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver 
> mailto:kd2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the conclusion 
> that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to intentional 
> “rudeness” or ill intent.
>
> His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if propagation 
> was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that does not mean 
> you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have a very high 
> local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy consumer 
> electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old 
> propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into 
> digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the 
> interface.
>
> If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them a 
> screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they didn’t, 
> offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them optimize 
> their receive setup.
>
> It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to be a 
> jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you tried 
> your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better person.
>
> And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is supposed to 
> be fun.
>
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> N2ADV
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Suggestion for Additional Checkbox

[Frank Kirschner]

Good idea. I'm not familiar enough with the program to have thought of
that. Thanks.

73,
Frank
KF6E

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 6:16 PM N3SL  wrote:

> Just a suggestion - works for me:  Create a F/H "configuration" and toggle
> to it.  Two mouse clicks.
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 4:50 PM Frank Kirschner 
> wrote:
>
>> Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is
>> room for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound mode. I
>> would also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig or Fake It,
>> which could be selected somewhere else.
>>
>> If the menus are turned off, it takes a while to turn them on and
>> navigate to the correct spot to set fox/hound and split mode. This
>> sometimes is long enough to miss a weak one. A checkbox would not only make
>> it faster, but it would encourage using that mode for those who are still
>> learning FT8 operation.
>>
>> 73,
>> Frank
>> KF6E
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[Paul Kube]

 click moves Rx, ctl-click moves both, shift click moves Tx.  I knew
> something moved them both...and sometimes I hit control instead of shift in
> the heat of he moment.
>

I think it would be better user interface design to have "move Rx" be left
click and "move Tx" to be right click, so those basic functions can each be
done with one hand. But that's another topic.

Do you have any theories on why a station gets covered by another station
> on exactly the same frequuency +/- 1-2 Hz?
>

I don't know, maybe the other station chose that frequency because it
looked clear to transmit (the weak station was weak enough that they didn't
see it). On a crowded FT8 segment, like 14.074 in the evening here, signals
are packed in like sardines and you have to do your best to find a
relatively open slot.

Or maybe he was just a lid! But IMHO it's going to be futile to try to
eliminate liddish behavior through software.

73, Paul K6PO


> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:05 AM Paul Kube  wrote:
>
>> Jeff,
>>
>>
>>> What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can
>>> see them in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx
>>> Frequency and so the transmitter frequency is automatically following the
>>> Rx frequency.
>>>
>>
>> Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves
>> the Rx frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.
>>
>> 73, Paul K6PO
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver  wrote:
>>>
 And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and
 not the generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable
 for the development side, to be honest...

 73,

 Jim S.
 N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)

 > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver  wrote:
 >
 > It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the
 conclusion that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to
 intentional “rudeness” or ill intent.
 >
 > His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if
 propagation was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that
 does not mean you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have
 a very high local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy
 consumer electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old
 propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into
 digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the
 interface.
 >
 > If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them
 a screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they
 didn’t, offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them
 optimize their receive setup.
 >
 > It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to
 be a jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you
 tried your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better
 person.
 >
 > And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is
 supposed to be fun.
 >
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[wsjt-devel] Suggestion for Additional Checkbox

[Frank Kirschner]

Between the Hold Tx Freq checkbox and the Call 1st checkbox, there is room
for several more checkboxes. One I would suggest is Fox/Hound mode. I would
also suggest this automatically set Split to either Rig or Fake It, which
could be selected somewhere else.

If the menus are turned off, it takes a while to turn them on and navigate
to the correct spot to set fox/hound and split mode. This sometimes is long
enough to miss a weak one. A checkbox would not only make it faster, but it
would encourage using that mode for those who are still learning FT8
operation.

73,
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[Jim Record]

How about defaulting the setting your transmit frequency, when
shift-clicking,to a multiple of 50Hz? This would minimize overlap of users.

Jim

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:29 PM Mark Frank  wrote:

> He may be talking about double clicking a call in the band activity
> window. Then, if "Hold Tx Freq" is not checked, it would move both Tx and
> Rx Freq.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark - KS4W
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:03 AM Paul Kube  wrote:
>
>> Jeff,
>>
>>
>>> What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can
>>> see them in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx
>>> Frequency and so the transmitter frequency is automatically following the
>>> Rx frequency.
>>>
>>
>> Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves
>> the Rx frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.
>>
>> 73, Paul K6PO
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver  wrote:
>>>
 And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and
 not the generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable
 for the development side, to be honest...

 73,

 Jim S.
 N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)

 > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver  wrote:
 >
 > It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the
 conclusion that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to
 intentional “rudeness” or ill intent.
 >
 > His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if
 propagation was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that
 does not mean you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have
 a very high local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy
 consumer electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old
 propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into
 digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the
 interface.
 >
 > If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them
 a screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they
 didn’t, offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them
 optimize their receive setup.
 >
 > It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to
 be a jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you
 tried your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better
 person.
 >
 > And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is
 supposed to be fun.
 >
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[Mark Frank]

He may be talking about double clicking a call in the band activity window.
Then, if "Hold Tx Freq" is not checked, it would move both Tx and Rx Freq.

73,

Mark - KS4W

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:03 AM Paul Kube  wrote:

> Jeff,
>
>
>> What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can see
>> them in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx
>> Frequency and so the transmitter frequency is automatically following the
>> Rx frequency.
>>
>
> Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves
> the Rx frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.
>
> 73, Paul K6PO
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver  wrote:
>>
>>> And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and
>>> not the generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable
>>> for the development side, to be honest...
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Jim S.
>>> N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)
>>>
>>> > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the
>>> conclusion that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to
>>> intentional “rudeness” or ill intent.
>>> >
>>> > His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if
>>> propagation was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that
>>> does not mean you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have
>>> a very high local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy
>>> consumer electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old
>>> propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into
>>> digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the
>>> interface.
>>> >
>>> > If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them
>>> a screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they
>>> didn’t, offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them
>>> optimize their receive setup.
>>> >
>>> > It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to
>>> be a jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you
>>> tried your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better
>>> person.
>>> >
>>> > And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is
>>> supposed to be fun.
>>> >
>>> > Jim S.
>>> > N2ADV
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Jim Nuytens via wsjt-devel]

While I too am no longer amazed, I’m still highly disappointed that so few 
people read documentation at all.

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> I've gotten over the hump of being amazed at people not reading 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[jeff millar]

Ok...I see what you mean.  click moves Rx, ctl-click moves both, shift
click moves Tx.  I knew something moved them both...and sometimes I hit
control instead of shift in the heat of he moment.

Do you have any theories on why a station gets covered by another station
on exactly the same frequuency +/- 1-2 Hz?  That should be very unlikely,
but I seem to lose contacts to that too often to be coincidence.  Getting
clobbered by someone 10 Hz off seems like bad luck, but exact same Hz or 1
Hz off happens too often.

Maybe some operators who believe in Tx on Rx use ctl-click???

thanks,

jeff, wa1hco

On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 2:05 AM Paul Kube  wrote:

> Jeff,
>
>
>> What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can see
>> them in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx
>> Frequency and so the transmitter frequency is automatically following the
>> Rx frequency.
>>
>
> Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves
> the Rx frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.
>
> 73, Paul K6PO
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver  wrote:
>>
>>> And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and
>>> not the generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable
>>> for the development side, to be honest...
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Jim S.
>>> N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)
>>>
>>> > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the
>>> conclusion that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to
>>> intentional “rudeness” or ill intent.
>>> >
>>> > His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if
>>> propagation was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that
>>> does not mean you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have
>>> a very high local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy
>>> consumer electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old
>>> propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into
>>> digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the
>>> interface.
>>> >
>>> > If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them
>>> a screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they
>>> didn’t, offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them
>>> optimize their receive setup.
>>> >
>>> > It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to
>>> be a jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you
>>> tried your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better
>>> person.
>>> >
>>> > And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is
>>> supposed to be fun.
>>> >
>>> > Jim S.
>>> > N2ADV
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Bill Somerville]

On 20/04/2019 16:05, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
Now that I got home and looked at the help file it does not have 
directions for setting up the Mac.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJb0ZlzEIoc

de Mike W9MDB


Mike,

that video is unnecessary and will surely go out of date. The following 
file is right next to the icons to install WSJT-X on macOS:


https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/Darwin/ReadMe.txt

which looks like this:

It never ceases to amaze me how many users fail to read a file named 
ReadMe.txt right there next to the installation instructions!


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Now that I got home and looked at the help file it does not have directions for 
setting up the Mac.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJb0ZlzEIoc

de Mike W9MDB

 

On Saturday, April 20, 2019, 9:40:53 AM CDT, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:  
 
 I think you'll find the help file shows you how to set up shared memory for 
the Mac.De W9MDB

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  On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 9:28 AM, Heiner Jordan via 
wsjt-devel wrote:   Hi,
I tried to install WSJT on my IMAC-Mini ( I5-2,6GHz, 16GB RAM )

I have downloaded the wsjtx-2.0.1-darwin.dmg file. I moved it to the program 
folder.
Then I made a double-click on the file.
Then I got a "Shared memory error" and the explanation
"unable to create shared memory segment".

My MacOs operating system is 10.13.6 from the 5.4.2019.

What could be the reason for this problem and how to solve it?
Thank´s for your help and information,
73,55
Heiner Jordan (DL8RDI)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

I think you'll find the help file shows you how to set up shared memory for the 
Mac.De W9MDB

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  On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 9:28 AM, Heiner Jordan via 
wsjt-devel wrote:   Hi,
I tried to install WSJT on my IMAC-Mini ( I5-2,6GHz, 16GB RAM )

I have downloaded the wsjtx-2.0.1-darwin.dmg file. I moved it to the program 
folder.
Then I made a double-click on the file.
Then I got a "Shared memory error" and the explanation
"unable to create shared memory segment".

My MacOs operating system is 10.13.6 from the 5.4.2019.

What could be the reason for this problem and how to solve it?
Thank´s for your help and information,
73,55
Heiner Jordan (DL8RDI)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Bill Somerville]

On 20/04/2019 15:24, Heiner Jordan via wsjt-devel wrote:

Then I got a "Shared memory error" and the explanation

"unable to create shared memory segment".


My MacOs operating system is 10.13.6 from the 5.4.2019.

What could be the reason for this problem and how to solve it?


Hi Heiner Jordan,

have you read and taken the actions specified in the ReadMe.txt file 
included at the top level of the WSJT-X installer DMG?


73
Bill
G4WJS.

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[wsjt-devel] Installation of WSJT not possible

[Heiner Jordan via wsjt-devel]

Hi,
I tried to install WSJT on my IMAC-Mini ( I5-2,6GHz, 16GB RAM )

I have downloaded the wsjtx-2.0.1-darwin.dmg file. I moved it to the program 
folder.
Then I made a double-click on the file.
Then I got a "Shared memory error" and the explanation
"unable to create shared memory segment".

My MacOs operating system is 10.13.6 from the 5.4.2019.

What could be the reason for this problem and how to solve it?
Thank´s for your help and information,
73,55
Heiner Jordan (DL8RDI)
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Re: [wsjt-devel] People are rude at times

[Paul Kube]

Jeff,


> What I think is happening is that people click on signals so they can see
> them in the Rx Frequency window.  They have not checked the Hold Tx
> Frequency and so the transmitter frequency is automatically following the
> Rx frequency.
>

Are you talking about single-clicking in the waterfall? That only moves the
Rx frequency, whether or not Hold Tx Freq is checked.

73, Paul K6PO


> On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 4:41 PM James Shaver  wrote:
>
>> And speaking of S/N, I just realized this is the “devel” reflector and
>> not the generic WSJT Group reflector.  This really isn’t a topic suitable
>> for the development side, to be honest...
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jim S.
>> N2ADV (ex KD2BIP)
>>
>> > On Apr 18, 2019, at 4:34 PM, James Shaver  wrote:
>> >
>> > It never ceases to amaze me how so many hams instantly jump to the
>> conclusion that what they witness on the air is automatically attributed to
>> intentional “rudeness” or ill intent.
>> >
>> > His s/n is not really relevant - it’s very possible that even if
>> propagation was, to coin a phrase, putting this person in your lap, that
>> does not mean you’re even a weak trace on his/her end. That person may have
>> a very high local noise floor due to an indoor antenna or a lot of noisy
>> consumer electronics around them or it could even be as simple as plain old
>> propagation differences or it could be someone who has just jumped into
>> digital modes for the very first time and is not yet familiar with the
>> interface.
>> >
>> > If it bothers you that much, look up their email on QRZ and send them a
>> screen shot and *politely* ask if they even heard/saw you. If they didn’t,
>> offer to help them track down local noise generators or help them optimize
>> their receive setup.
>> >
>> > It pays to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they turn out to be
>> a jerk, then you can at least walk away with the satisfaction that you
>> tried your best to be an “Elmer” and are, at the end of the day, the better
>> person.
>> >
>> > And relax. It’s just ham radio. Nobody died on the table. This is
>> supposed to be fun.
>> >
>> > Jim S.
>> > N2ADV
>> >
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