Re: [wsjt-devel] no decode

2018-08-07 Thread John L. Broughton
Dimension 4 works just fine with Windows 10. I've been on Windows 10 for 
quite some time and have no problem with Dimension 4. I'm running 
version 5.31.331.0.


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On 8/7/2018 7:52 AM, harold deitz via wsjt-devel wrote:

Chris,

I have been using "Dimension 4" for time sync.  Recently upgraded my 
OS to Windows 10.  Found out that Dimension 4 won't work with Windows 
10.  How do I get Meinberg?


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On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎August‎ ‎7‎, ‎2018‎ ‎01‎:‎53‎:‎46‎ ‎PM‎ ‎GMT, Chris 
Getman  wrote:



I had a very similar problem.

The time looked OK, but when I did a manual Time Sync everything 
started working


Michael had me switch time sync programs to Meinberg and I haven’t had 
an issue since.


It’s worth a try and might fix your issue also.

Chris  -  N3PLM

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Hmmm hamspots.net doesn't show any transmissions from you for the last 
16 hours so you may not be transmitting as you think.


You say your time is good but what does http://time.is tell you?

de Mike W9MDB

On Tuesday, August 7, 2018, 8:21:08 AM CDT, seaka...@juno.com 
<mailto:seaka...@juno.com> <mailto:seaka...@juno.com>> wrote:


I've been using this software flawlessly for a while.  I'm using it on 
a Mac machine with Signalink and ICOM 735.  This morning when I turned 
on the computer and ran the program it was not decoding.  The 
waterfall shows lots of very strong signals.  Time is exact between 
software and computer.  When I look at the mac sound settings all is 
normal.  The software DOES transmit.  Just no decoding of signals.   I 
was using it yesterday before I shut the computer down perfectly.  No 
indication of trouble.  I also deleted the program and re installed a 
new download.  All perimeters stayed the same upon re install.  Again 
it does transmit.  Just no decode..


Any ideas???

Mike M

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Re: [wsjt-devel] What happens when Hound does not receive RR73?

2018-07-02 Thread John L. Broughton
I'm not sure what good this would do. I exchanged reports with the 
operation twice on 17M and once on 20M. One of the 17M contacts did not 
result in the RR73, just an exchange of signal reports. Of course, that 
exchange did not end up in the Club Log, which means it was not a valid 
QSO.  So, I don't see what good logging a contact without the RR73 does.


The other two contacts did show up in the Club Log. Also, the fox never 
sent a CQ that I heard in any of the three times I had a full or partial 
contact. I was copying him with a decent signal. On the 17M contact, he 
called me after my call was sent five times. On 20M it was after eight 
times. Pretty nice for a rare one. I'm not sure how much putting my 
transmit frequency above 3,000 Hz helped, but I tend to think it did help.


I just hope I will be able to copy them loud enough on SSB for a 
contact, but so far, they have not been that strong when I m on the air.


73,

John, WB9VGJ

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On 7/2/2018 12:57 PM, David Tiller wrote:
At least with this current dxpedition, I suggest you at least 
tentatively log contacts as soon as you have received a report from 
the fox and have sent yours.


I had been trying to contact KH1/KH7Z on 20m but the only success I 
had were 2 'busted' sequences. I never saw a RR73 for either of them 
but lo and behold both tries were logged on their side.


On Jul 2, 2018, at 15:49, Joshua B Nass <mailto:josh.n...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I let it run six attempts then I stop it. Since the RR73 is incoming 
from the Fox and I have all the details I need for entry into my log, 
I log it, then wait for the Club Log verification.  If I am in the 
fox log on the that band I will upload my log.


On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 3:07 AM, Charles Suckling 
<mailto:char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk>> wrote:


Hi All

20m conditions were a bit better today and I finally managed to
work Baker with 100W, lots of feeder loss and a sloping dipole.

The problem I had was, after receiving my report from KH7Z, I
failed to receive RR73.  Thanks to Bill’s advice to start over
again (TX1 message), on the 4^th QSO attempt (this time with
G4KGC in the shack)  I finally got my RR73.  Within about 5
sequences they came back again with a report again, and QSO
attempts proceeded normally.

Decoding was reasonably reliable at the time.  It seems  they did
not receive my TX3 message, hence did not send RR73, rather than
me not decoding the RR73.

What became apparent was that under these circumstances my TX
freq was shifted three times, then stuck on the final frequency
and transmissions would have continued at infinitum:

I guess this is what is expected as the User guide para 14 says:



Here is an example of one of the failed attempts:

083545 Tx 3056 ~ KH7Z G3WDG IO92

083630 -13 -0.5 390 ~ G3WDG KH7Z -15

083645 Tx 390 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-13

083700 -16 -0.6 389 ~ G3WDG KH7Z -15

083715 Tx 389 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-16

083730 -14 -0.6 330 ~ G3WDG KH7Z -15

083745 Tx 330 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

083815 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

083845 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

083915 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

083945 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

084015 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

084045 Tx 630 ~ KH7Z G3WDG R-14

After moving to 630 it stayed there and continued transmitting
until I intervened, thinking that the QSO had failed and I was
unnecessarily causing QRM.

Should I have waited longer for Fox to respond?

In the situation where hounds to not receive their  RR73,
 presumably  a wall of QRM below 1000 develops for Fox making it
more difficult for QSOs to complete?  I saw other stations in the
same fix as I was, repeating their TX3 messages for many periods.

73

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-06-30 Thread John L. Broughton
A friend of mine from my amateur radio club, Yavapai Amateur Radio Club, 
Prescott, AZ, is one of the ops on the Baker Island DXpedition. He has 
lots of experience working the CQ World Wide CW Contest with the Voodoo 
Contest Group in African and Middle Eastern countries. I'm really 
looking forward to talking to him when he gets back to get feedback on 
how things were on their end.


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On 6/30/2018 12:50 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
I would like to approach this idea with some set of principles that 
everybody can agree on...so here goes...


#1 Maximize QSO rate
#2 Minimize blind callers

Just those two principles are enough to say we should do whatever we 
can to reduce blind callers which will also help to maximize QSO rate 
as they are inversely relates (i.e. fewer blind means > qso rate).


Now...to take the logic to the extreme...if all callers were blind 
then the QSO rate would be zero...quite obviously an undesirable 
situation.  As the % of blind callers reduces the QSO rate 
increases...and the QSO rate is maximized when nobody is blind (notice 
we're not considering band conditions here as that is not something we 
can anything about).


So...given the two extremes which should we strive to support?

"good enough" is for horseshoes and hand grenades as the saying goes.  
So why would we NOT try to minimize blind callers when it's an easy 
software change to do so?  This would have no changes on the fox 
side...only the hounds


de Mike W9MDB






On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 11:13:07 AM CDT, Bill Somerville 
 wrote:



Hi Mike,

we are not hear to determine how operators at a DXpedition site choose 
to operate, we are not aware of conditions on the ground. If they feel 
that they are getting optimum rates without calling CQ then that is 
their choice. Remember that calling CQ from a rare entity can result 
in a passband 100% full of pile up, they may have tried it and decided 
it doesn't help the QSO rate.


73
Bill
G4WJS.

On 30/06/2018 17:05, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
But what about them receiving all these calls in the blind?  Isn't 
that going to interfere when they try to respond to people who can't 
hear them?


Mike




On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 11:04:11 AM CDT, Bill Somerville 
 <mailto:g4...@classdesign.com> wrote:



On 30/06/2018 16:57, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
OK...so it appears the CQ every 5 trasnmissions is NOT enforced 
unless Fox clicks the "More CQs" box.
We'd be a lot better off if this was always forced and Hounds were 
restricted to only answer CQ's.
This explains why we don't see the CQ's and calling blind is 
normally necessary (as long as you can see KH7Z that is).


if(m_tFoxTxSinceCQ>=m_foxCQtimeandui->cbMoreCQs->isChecked()){

de Mike W9MDB



Hi Mike,

it should be reasonable to assume that if the Baker Is. operators are 
not enforcing regular CQ calls then they have plenty of callers to 
keep the to-be-worked queue populated with more stations than Tx 
slots and a QSO rate that is high.




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Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-06-30 Thread John L. Broughton
As noticed in my previous post, my experience was the fox was not 
calling CQ every five minutes, but simply working station after station. 
Seeing as how I could copy all his transmissions, I called him, and got 
the QSO. I don't feel guilty about how I worked him. I figure as long as 
I can copy him steadily and he is working stations calling, there is no 
reason I should not call, as long as he is not working a specific area 
that doesn't include the US.


That being said, I can't fault your idea that the fox should call CQ 
every five minutes, but before I would force that to be mandatory, I'd 
get input from the DXpedition to see if they think it was/should be 
necessary. The one problem it could solve is stations calling blind who 
can't hear the fox, but it would be nice to know if that is a real 
problem. Judged by many years of SSB DXing, I have no doubts there are 
stations who don't follow general guidelines, rules and regulations when 
it comes to working DX, though.


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On 6/30/2018 8:57 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
OK...so it appears the CQ every 5 trasnmissions is NOT enforced unless 
Fox clicks the "More CQs" box.
We'd be a lot better off if this was always forced and Hounds were 
restricted to only answer CQ's.
This explains why we don't see the CQ's and calling blind is normally 
necessary (as long as you can see KH7Z that is).


if(m_tFoxTxSinceCQ>=m_foxCQtimeandui->cbMoreCQs->isChecked()){

de Mike W9MDB




On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 10:41:44 AM CDT, John Zantek 
 wrote:



Wholly concur with #2, but not necessarily #1, Mike.  Yes, lots of 
folks are calling in the blind.  That’s not limited to FT8, guys.


But…

Depending on who’s running the digital tent (Don/Ned/?), rates of CQ 
vary from every 10 minutes to generate some traffic down to NONE, 
because there are stations calling.  I have a pretty ideal QTH to work 
Baker on any band, and I’m observing too much of the latter pattern.  
I know there are lots of new folks sitting at their keyboards, waiting 
for the CQ, not seeing one, then walking away. That’s not good, as it 
just reduces the rate for Baker, and frustrates the new ham who’s a 
potential DXer and digital apostle.


The QSB on 17M has been horrendous, with Baker’s sig, regardless of 
mode, varying wildly here.  On 17M, they were working the usual wall 
of JA but I never did see a CQ, so I entered it manually and generated 
the Std Msgs to work them successfully.


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*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

I have some observations too.

#1 Tons of ops calling KH7Z when they can't see them.  I assume this 
only causes problems as it's quite possible KH7Z with their honker 
antennas and can see them but not the other way round.  So KH7Z will 
put them in the queue and try to process them taking up the limited 
slots they are using right now (2 from what I've seen). IMHO the 
solution to this is pretty simplewhen you turn on Hound or switch 
bands you should be PREVENTED FROM TRANSMITTING UNTIL YOU GET CQ FRO 
THE DX STATION.    So, you would be required to double-click on a CQ 
to allow transmitting.  I noticed the the Baker team gave a lukewarm 
endorsement of FT8 on their news update quite likely due to this problem.


#2 We need to turn on spotting for the DX station so that PSKReporter 
and Hamspots can work and also so JTAlert can produce alerts when the 
DX station is received.  Don't need to spot the hounds of course.  
Trying to figure out what band is good for local ops would be much 
improved with automatic spotting for us and for the DX team who could 
then see where their signal is going as more teams use internet on 
site via satellite links.


de Mike W9MDB

On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 8:13:39 AM CDT, Grant Willis 
mailto:vk...@bigpond.com>> wrote:


Joe,

An observation if I may about expedition mode. I see with KH1/KH7Z 
that the number of Fox TX channels varies – I presume as they place 
more stations in the queue. As expected, the power per channel drops 
the more channels running so that the amplifiers can keep up. However, 
this has an unintended consequence perhaps of potentially breaking 
QSOs. A few times now I have started calling KH1/KH7Z on 20m when I am 
receiving them around -09 (but with pretty low S-meter  signal 
strength). Usually this is with 1-2 channels running on their 
downlink. If they go to 3 channels I can still receive but it falls to 
say -15. If they bring up channel 4 and 5 I loose them. There just 
isn’t the link budget left to receive them when the power is split 
between more than 3 channels in this example.


Now the issue is, if they answer me by adding the 4^th channel – I 
wont hear them under those con

Re: [wsjt-devel] Observation on Expedition Mode

2018-06-30 Thread John L. Broughton
I can't say I agree with Mike that one should have to answer a CQ to 
work the DXpedition station.


I worked KH7Z on 17M this past Thursday. However, in the time I was on 
the frequency, I did not decode any CQ. KH7Z was working stations the 
entire time I was on frequency. I simply kept an eye on his signal 
strength which was varying from about -22 to -15. I set my transmit 
frequency at 3343 and started calling. It didn't take very long, just 
several minutes, before he called me and we completed the QSO. My report 
to him was -22 and his to me was -06 (I'm running a hy-gain DX-88 
vertical with my IC-7300; hardly a DX big gun.) If I would have had to 
answer a CQ in order to work him, I could not have gotten the QSO due to 
the short time I had to try to make  it and with him just working 
station after station, not needing to call CQ.


I was watching the stations he was calling to make sure they weren't, 
say, all in Europe, as I did not know if he had called CQ for any 
particular region. As most all the stations he was working were in the 
US, I had no hesitation about calling him.


As far as finding where KH7Z is operating, I've just been using the 
HB9DRV-9 DX Cluster spots option in m HRD logbook program (I don't run 
the main HRD program.) or just selecting various bands in the right hand 
window of it to see if and where he is operating then, if on SSB or FT8, 
I go to the frequency to see if he is strong enough to work.


John, WB9VGJ

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On 6/30/2018 7:14 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

I have some observations too.

#1 Tons of ops calling KH7Z when they can't see them. I assume this 
only causes problems as it's quite possible KH7Z with their honker 
antennas and can see them but not the other way round.  So KH7Z will 
put them in the queue and try to process them taking up the limited 
slots they are using right now (2 from what I've seen).  IMHO the 
solution to this is pretty simplewhen you turn on Hound or switch 
bands you should be PREVENTED FROM TRANSMITTING UNTIL YOU GET CQ FRO 
THE DX STATION.    So, you would be required to double-click on a CQ 
to allow transmitting.  I noticed the the Baker team gave a lukewarm 
endorsement of FT8 on their news update quite likely due to this problem.


#2 We need to turn on spotting for the DX station so that PSKReporter 
and Hamspots can work and also so JTAlert can produce alerts when the 
DX station is received.  Don't need to spot the hounds of course.  
Trying to figure out what band is good for local ops would be much 
improved with automatic spotting for us and for the DX team who could 
then see where their signal is going as more teams use internet on 
site via satellite links.


de Mike W9MDB





On Saturday, June 30, 2018, 8:13:39 AM CDT, Grant Willis 
 wrote:



Joe,

An observation if I may about expedition mode. I see with KH1/KH7Z 
that the number of Fox TX channels varies – I presume as they place 
more stations in the queue. As expected, the power per channel drops 
the more channels running so that the amplifiers can keep up. However, 
this has an unintended consequence perhaps of potentially breaking 
QSOs. A few times now I have started calling KH1/KH7Z on 20m when I am 
receiving them around -09 (but with pretty low S-meter  signal 
strength). Usually this is with 1-2 channels running on their 
downlink. If they go to 3 channels I can still receive but it falls to 
say -15. If they bring up channel 4 and 5 I loose them. There just 
isn’t the link budget left to receive them when the power is split 
between more than 3 channels in this example.


Now the issue is, if they answer me by adding the 4^th channel – I 
wont hear them under those conditions. If I am part way through a QSO 
I can loose the RR73 for the same reason if they answer someone else 
on the 4^th channel– simply because the link runs out of steam.


Now if I couldn’t hear them in the first place I wouldn’t have tried 
calling. In this case however, they can disappear under load 
effectively and I loose them mid QSO.


For future consideration perhaps is to have the setting of number of 
channels vs the number of active channels maintain a constant PER 
CHANNEL TX power rather than the variable situation we have now. Ie I 
enable my fox station to run say 4 channels, but only reply on 1 
channel, then the output power should be the equivalent of the power 
that would be in that channel if all 4 were in fact on air but aren’t. 
At least that way I have a constant link budget I am working with on 
my comms channel with the fox station rather than one that can have 
them drastically cut power mid QSO without reference to the conditions 
on the path I am working them via.


If what I am describing is not how it is supposed to work already then 
there is another factor at work somewhere in the chain to be explored. 
I would be happy to discuss this further and use the KH1/KH7Z

Re: [wsjt-devel] Hound mode setting

2018-06-28 Thread John L. Broughton

Mike,

It was pilot error. For some reason, I uses a comma instead of a period 
in the frequencies and never noticed. Duh...


John, WB9VGJ

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On 6/28/2018 8:54 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

You probably entered the frequencies wrong.
They are in MHz.

So enter 14.090 for example.

de Mike W9MDB




On Thursday, June 28, 2018, 10:51:02 AM CDT, John L. Broughton 
<2silverhon...@gmail.com> wrote:



I did add the Baker Island frequencies to the list in WSJT-X. However, I
cannot use them using the drop down menu. Whatever standard frequency I
am on, when I select one of the DXpeditions frequencies, the window
turns red (that shows the band) and the frequency shown remains the
same. So, I have to select the band to show the regular FT8 frequency,
then manually tune the rig to the DXpedition frequency and all seems
fine. I can't understand why WSJT-X won't change the frequency on my rig
when I select it.

I'm running the latest release of WSJT-X, Windows 10, and an ICOM IC-7300.

73,

John

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On 6/28/2018 4:46 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:
> You can easily take care of this by creating a separate Configuration
> for Fox & Hound mode.
>
> Very easily done, you don't have to edit frequencies until you know of
> a new DXPedition you wish to contact, and you don't have to worry
> about changing any other settings that may mess up your normal FT8 
usage.

>
> I have to Fox & Hound configurations set up, one for my KX3, and one
> for my K2.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
>
> On 6/28/2018 3:10 AM, Saku wrote:
>> Hi
>> While just entering in Baker frequencies I got an idea:
>> What about adding Add Frequency dialog's Mode selection FT8-hound
>> (perhaps also fox)? Selecting either one would cause also
>> corresponding Checkbox set/reset in Advaced tab at normal usage time
>> ( as user friendly property)
>> When selecting either one at Add frequency dialog, on setting time,
>> pressing OK could also prompt a splash "are you sure...etc." if fox
>> or hound selecton is tried to set with ordinary frequency. And vice
>> versa if not ordinary frequency prompt "should you use hound (fox?)
>> mode setting" would appear.
>> --
>> Saku
>> OH1KH
>
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Hound mode setting

2018-06-28 Thread John L. Broughton
I did add the Baker Island frequencies to the list in WSJT-X. However, I 
cannot use them using the drop down menu. Whatever standard frequency I 
am on, when I select one of the DXpeditions frequencies, the window 
turns red (that shows the band) and the frequency shown remains the 
same. So, I have to select the band to show the regular FT8 frequency, 
then manually tune the rig to the DXpedition frequency and all seems 
fine. I can't understand why WSJT-X won't change the frequency on my rig 
when I select it.


I'm running the latest release of WSJT-X, Windows 10, and an ICOM IC-7300.

73,

John

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On 6/28/2018 4:46 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:
You can easily take care of this by creating a separate Configuration 
for Fox & Hound mode.


Very easily done, you don't have to edit frequencies until you know of 
a new DXPedition you wish to contact, and you don't have to worry 
about changing any other settings that may mess up your normal FT8 usage.


I have to Fox & Hound configurations set up, one for my KX3, and one 
for my K2.


Neil, KN3ILZ


On 6/28/2018 3:10 AM, Saku wrote:

Hi
While just entering in Baker frequencies I got an idea:
What about adding Add Frequency dialog's Mode selection FT8-hound 
(perhaps also fox)? Selecting either one would cause also 
corresponding Checkbox set/reset in Advaced tab at normal usage time 
( as user friendly property)
When selecting either one at Add frequency dialog, on setting time, 
pressing OK could also prompt a splash "are you sure...etc." if fox 
or hound selecton is tried to set with ordinary frequency. And vice 
versa if not ordinary frequency prompt "should you use hound (fox?) 
mode setting" would appear.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio issue(s) with Win10 April 2018 update

2018-05-26 Thread John L. Broughton

Just a couple comments.

I don't have a rig blaster and I don't have a laptop; I have a Dell 
desktop.  There was a latency problem which would not let us connect 
using Quick Assist as I have HughesNet satellite Internet. We used 
TeamViewer instead.


Mike was a great help.

73,

John, WB9VGJ

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On 5/26/2018 5:45 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

He had several problems.  Here's what we did.

#1 Uninstall all sound drivers (with the remove files option).  Reboot 
without rig USB plugged in.
#2 Tested his speakers and microphone (PC-based) to ensure they worked 
using Voice Recorder -- this is a sanity check that your sound setup 
works the way you think it should.
#3 Plugged in rig and relabeled the USB Codec drivers to make them 
easy to distinguish

#4 Adjusted levels on Windows Playback/Record cotrols to 0dB
#4 Adjusted rig blaster to 12 o-clock position.
#5 Adjusted rig USB AF level to then get 30db+ on the waterfall (not 
all rigs can do this so this may have to be done from rig blaster)


The decoding problem he had was due the signal levels being low from 
the rig and over amplified in the Windows controls.  So that's why he 
was getting intermittent decodes as any gain over 0dB in the Windows 
controls buys you nothing so there was lots of quantization going on.


He also has latency problems on his older laptop causing dropouts on 
transmission but they are very short so don't affect him a whole lot.


de Mike W9MDB




On Saturday, May 26, 2018, 7:35:17 AM CDT, Barry Smith 
<b...@g4iat.co.uk> wrote:



In message <e0b4ef0f-8c67-2ac0-9e6b-cdaf55764...@gmail.com 
<mailto:e0b4ef0f-8c67-2ac0-9e6b-cdaf55764...@gmail.com>>
          "John L. Broughton" <2silverhon...@gmail.com 
<mailto:2silverhon...@gmail.com>> wrote:


> All,

> I want to thank Mike, W9MDB, for spending considerable time with me on
> the phone and connected to my computer this morning which resulted in
> resolving the audio problem. His expertise did the job; I never would
> have figured it out.

> Now looking forward to my 16th digital QSO with him...

> 73,

> John, WB9VGJ

> John L. Broughton

It could be useful to know what you/he did to resolve the problem in
case others experience the same problem.

Barry
G4IAT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio issue(s) with Win10 April 2018 update

2018-05-25 Thread John L. Broughton

All,

I want to thank Mike, W9MDB, for spending considerable time with me on 
the phone and connected to my computer this morning which resulted in 
resolving the audio problem. His expertise did the job; I never would 
have figured it out.


Now looking forward to my 16th digital QSO with him...

73,

John, WB9VGJ

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On 5/24/2018 8:26 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

Get rid of drivertoolkit...totally unnecessary

Try uninstalling the driver (remove file if you option is there) and 
reboot to let it reinstall.


de Mike W9MDB




On Thursday, May 24, 2018, 9:08:48 PM CDT, John L. Broughton 
<2silverhon...@gmail.com> wrote:



I just ran into this problem when my Windows 10 updated today.

When I start WSJT-X, I get the error 'Error in Sound input' An error
opening the audio input device has occurred.'

When I troubleshoot the USB Audio CODEC driver, it results in a message
'no jack information available.'

When I run the DRIVERTOOLKIT, it says the driver is up to date. I tried
a backup and restore on the driver and that did not help.

I realize this is not a WSJT-X issue, but am hoping someone here has had
this problem and figured out a way to fix the driver problem.

73,

John, WB9VGJ

John L. Broughton
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2silverhon...@gmail.com <mailto:2silverhon...@gmail.com>

On 5/24/2018 3:34 AM, Barry Smith wrote:
> All I see is that you can delay the install. I'm lucky that I have 2
> PCs and I can see what happens with one before I update the other.
>
> I did update the PC that runs WSJT-X and I did have to change the
> settings/privacy/microphone to allow use of the microphone - even
> though I'm using a device (cat control, audio in and out) that uses
> USB.
>
> Barry
> G4IAT
>
> In message 
<CABcOcnBGt+S=CTw0ybRxKwcE37qGJm0RwYo4S6-Sti5bg7mhyQ@mail.g 
<mailto:CTw0ybRxKwcE37qGJm0RwYo4S6-Sti5bg7mhyQ@mail.g>

> mail.com>
>            Andras Bato <ha6nn.a...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ha6nn.a...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>
>> Hi Barry,
>> I've done this:
>> Any comment?
>> GL de HA6NN
>> Andras
>> On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Barry Smith <b...@g4iat.co.uk 
<mailto:b...@g4iat.co.uk>> wrote:
>>> In message <96609faa-afc1-4e9d-900d-504291749...@bellsouth.net 
<mailto:96609faa-afc1-4e9d-900d-504291749...@bellsouth.net>>
>>>            Dave Crockett <wb4...@bellsouth.net 
<mailto:wb4...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

>>>
>>>> Yeah, I kinda think it was a drivers issue, too.  If nothing else, my
>>>> experience should be considered a heads-up� to anyone having a
>>>> similar issue in Win10.  That option to •revert to a previous version
>>>> of Windows� in Win10 has a pretty short window of opportunity and why
>>>> I didn�t spend longer trying to noodle it out.
>>>> Tnx all!
>>>> 73,
>>>> Dave WB4DFW (EM84š)
>>> I had an issue with my weather satellite software (WxtoImg) which
>>> refused to work after to W10 update. I noticed that the HdAudio driver
>>> had been updated so suspected that, but it turned out to be
>>> Settings/Privacy/Microphone (even though I use line in). It was set to
>>> off. Setting it to on, but setting the individual apps listed, to off
>>> (WxtoImg wasn't in the list), cured the problem.
>>>
>>> That's one one PC. The other PC, which I run WSJT-X on, hasn't been
>>> updated yet, so don't know whether something similar might apply to
>>> that.
>>>
>>> Barry
>>> G4IAT


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Audio issue(s) with Win10 April 2018 update

2018-05-24 Thread John L. Broughton

I just ran into this problem when my Windows 10 updated today.

When I start WSJT-X, I get the error 'Error in Sound input' An error 
opening the audio input device has occurred.'


When I troubleshoot the USB Audio CODEC driver, it results in a message 
'no jack information available.'


When I run the DRIVERTOOLKIT, it says the driver is up to date. I tried 
a backup and restore on the driver and that did not help.


I realize this is not a WSJT-X issue, but am hoping someone here has had 
this problem and figured out a way to fix the driver problem.


73,

John, WB9VGJ

John L. Broughton
www.wb9vgj.us
wb9...@arrl.net
2silverhon...@gmail.com

On 5/24/2018 3:34 AM, Barry Smith wrote:

All I see is that you can delay the install. I'm lucky that I have 2
PCs and I can see what happens with one before I update the other.

I did update the PC that runs WSJT-X and I did have to change the
settings/privacy/microphone to allow use of the microphone - even
though I'm using a device (cat control, audio in and out) that uses
USB.

Barry
G4IAT

In message <CABcOcnBGt+S=CTw0ybRxKwcE37qGJm0RwYo4S6-Sti5bg7mhyQ@mail.g
mail.com>
   Andras Bato <ha6nn.a...@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi Barry,
I've done this:
Any comment?
GL de HA6NN
Andras
On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 7:19 PM, Barry Smith <b...@g4iat.co.uk> wrote:

In message <96609faa-afc1-4e9d-900d-504291749...@bellsouth.net>
   Dave Crockett <wb4...@bellsouth.net> wrote:


Yeah, I kinda think it was a drivers issue, too.  If nothing else, my
experience should be considered a  heads-up to anyone having a
similar issue in Win10.  That option to •revert to a previous version
of Windows in Win10 has a pretty short window of opportunity and why
I didnt spend longer trying to noodle it out.
Tnx all!
73,
Dave WB4DFW (EM84š)

I had an issue with my weather satellite software (WxtoImg) which
refused to work after to W10 update. I noticed that the HdAudio driver
had been updated so suspected that, but it turned out to be
Settings/Privacy/Microphone (even though I use line in). It was set to
off. Setting it to on, but setting the individual apps listed, to off
(WxtoImg wasn't in the list), cured the problem.

That's one one PC. The other PC, which I run WSJT-X on, hasn't been
updated yet, so don't know whether something similar might apply to
that.

Barry
G4IAT



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Enhancement request

2018-04-26 Thread John L. Broughton
I am one of those males who has defective color vision (What the US Army 
told me when I had the color vision test when I took my enlistment 
physical back in the early 60s.). What I have great difficulty with is 
black text on a red background or red text on black or any dark 
background. With JTAlert, I changed the background color for stations 
calling me from red to orange. With red, I often had great difficulty in 
reading the call sign easily. With the orange background, I have no 
problems.


I don't worry about the green receive indicator as I can pretty easily 
pick it out. Also, it doesn't really make much difference where it is. I 
do keep an eye on the transmit location, though.,


73,

John, WB9VGJ

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On 4/25/2018 11:37 PM, Tom Ramberg via wsjt-devel wrote:
Without taking a stand in this discussion, it might be a point to 
consider that about 10% of men are red-green color blind. So any color 
not green or red would actually be helpful for us color blind people.


73 de Tom OH6VDA
26. apr. 2018 kl. 08:27 skrev <g...@isect.com <mailto:g...@isect.com>> 
<g...@isect.com <mailto:g...@isect.com>>:


Hmmm.  The red is a strong visual cue to transmission, so having both 
in red would be very confusing.


How about leaving the TX one red as now, but making the ‘receive 
channel’ a translucent grey column between the edge of the waterfall 
and the line above the audio frequency numbers?  I say ‘translucent’ 
because I’d like to see the scale markers, numbers and red TX marker 
through it, please.


Well, that’s just a suggestion to throw in the pot,  Sorry I can’t 
actually code it!


73,

Gary ZL2iFB

*From:* Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
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*Sent:* Thursday, 26 April 2018 4:57 p.m.
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*Cc:* Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com <mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Enhancement request

I played a bit with colors and nothing is really satisfactory.

It's an optical thing...with any color right on top of the waterfall 
there isn't any contrast between the green (or any other color) and 
the waterfall.


So instead how's this look?  A red box when matched.



Or larger red goal posts when separate.  Is a different color really 
necessary or is the appearance of the goal posts enough?


And it's an optical illusion here in that the goal posts are the same 
height as the box.




de Mike W9MDB

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