Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
On 02/05/2019 00:05, Gary Kohtala - K7EK via wsjt-devel wrote: We are talking about RX audio. I use a SignaLink USB, not the on board sound system, and am experiencing the problem. Interestingly, when I execute another program called MARS-ALE, it somehow forces the RX audio to 0.0 db. Not sure how N2CKH did that but perhaps it would be a possibility in WSJT-X at some point. Best regards, Gary, K7EK Radcliff, KY (EM77at) Hi Gary, it is possible to determine the 0 dB point by querying a whole bunch of MS proprietary APIs to get the extents and step size for the driver level control but it is a PITA. Since we use Qt (QAudioInput) to manage the input audio stream we only have a basic control that goes from zero to one with no information about how that maps to gain or attenuation - so we don't use that. The fix in Qt is small and was completed quickly when I spoke to the developer who made the change that caused the level resetting issue. We will wait for the fix to flow through to a release. It is in for Qt 5.12.4 which is due in May. Until then you always have the option to use the 32-bit build of WSJT-X. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Hasan, We are talking about RX audio. I use a SignaLink USB, not the on board sound system,and am experiencing the problem. Interestingly, when I execute another program calledMARS-ALE, it somehow forces the RX audio to 0.0 db. Not sure how N2CKH did that but perhapsit would be a possibility in WSJT-X at some point. Best regards, Gary, K7EK Radcliff, KY (EM77at) --- On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 5:47:04 PM EDT, Hasan al-Basri wrote: I am also using an external usb sound dongle (the $5 variety from Amazon). I am not seeing any of the noted audio issues with the 64 bit version. I have set the audio once, gone back and forth, started, stopped the program, changed configs. I don't see it. I assumed it was because it was not the motherboard sound card. Now I gather from Bill that it is because it has no level setting. BTW, I assume we are talking about transmit level setting, not rx? 73, N0ANHasan On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:35 PM Bill Somerville wrote: On 30/04/2019 21:03, Neil Zampella wrote: > > FWIW .. Mike recommended a few years ago at least that you change the > properties from showing a PERCENTAGE to a dB level. I have mine set to > 0 dB on the properties, and have not see the issues others are seeing > with the 64 bit version. > > I am using an external USB soundcard with the system (Sound Blaster > xFi) which may be the reason I'm not seeing the issues, but I'm > thinking its more the property setting. > > Neil, KN3iLZ > Hi Neil, the issue is universal for all sound cards, including virtual devices like loopback services. For some devices 100% level is 0dB, i.e. they have no gain ahead of the ADC (or no ADC if they are a virtual device) apart from the mic. boost stage which is not affected by this issue. So for those using digital audio loopback devices and sound cards with no front end gain adjustment, there is no real problem assuming 0dB is compatible with the audio level being sampled. The real issue is where a sound card has gain ahead of the ADC because we cannot detect that and it will be set to maximum unconditionally on restart. The Qt fix that is in the pipeline will revert to not changing the existing gain settings when an audio input stream is opened. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
a quotation from sourceforge . Windows users will discover that WSJT-X v2.1.0 has been made available as a 64-bit MS Windows build for 64-bit versions of Windows since Vista. This veraion has one known defect. The audio input device level will be reset to 100% when WSJT-X is started, when the input audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. This is a Qt framework defect that we have reported and is being fixed in a future release; until then users should take care to set the device audio level back to 0dB or lower depending on requirements. Note that many sound cards and chips have real gain ahead of the ADC, as much as 14dB, which will be turned to the maximum due to this defect and is usually undesirable when using WSJT-X. Despite this annoying defect, we recommend the 64-bit version of WSJT-X on MS Windows as it has significant advantages in decoding speed. -- 73 from Joe, K1JT; Steve, K9AN; and Bill, G4WJS. On 30/04/2019 14:43, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote: Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level? WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI To: wsjt-devel Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Thanks Bill, and yes it does get set to +23 dB with any change in config. Think I'll leave the sound setting window open :-) 73, N0AN Hasan On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:01 PM Bill Somerville wrote: > On 30/04/2019 22:42, Hasan al-Basri wrote: > > BTW, I assume we are talking about transmit level setting, not rx? > > Hi Hasan, > > no, this issue only affects audio input devices. > > 73 > Bill > G4WJS. > > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
On 30/04/2019 22:42, Hasan al-Basri wrote: BTW, I assume we are talking about transmit level setting, not rx? Hi Hasan, no, this issue only affects audio input devices. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
I am also using an external usb sound dongle (the $5 variety from Amazon). I am not seeing any of the noted audio issues with the 64 bit version. I have set the audio once, gone back and forth, started, stopped the program, changed configs. I don't see it. I assumed it was because it was not the motherboard sound card. Now I gather from Bill that it is because it has no level setting. BTW, I assume we are talking about transmit level setting, not rx? 73, N0AN Hasan On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 3:35 PM Bill Somerville wrote: > On 30/04/2019 21:03, Neil Zampella wrote: > > > > FWIW .. Mike recommended a few years ago at least that you change the > > properties from showing a PERCENTAGE to a dB level. I have mine set to > > 0 dB on the properties, and have not see the issues others are seeing > > with the 64 bit version. > > > > I am using an external USB soundcard with the system (Sound Blaster > > xFi) which may be the reason I'm not seeing the issues, but I'm > > thinking its more the property setting. > > > > Neil, KN3iLZ > > > Hi Neil, > > the issue is universal for all sound cards, including virtual devices > like loopback services. For some devices 100% level is 0dB, i.e. they > have no gain ahead of the ADC (or no ADC if they are a virtual device) > apart from the mic. boost stage which is not affected by this issue. > > So for those using digital audio loopback devices and sound cards with > no front end gain adjustment, there is no real problem assuming 0dB is > compatible with the audio level being sampled. The real issue is where a > sound card has gain ahead of the ADC because we cannot detect that and > it will be set to maximum unconditionally on restart. > > The Qt fix that is in the pipeline will revert to not changing the > existing gain settings when an audio input stream is opened. > > 73 > Bill > G4WJS. > > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
On 30/04/2019 21:03, Neil Zampella wrote: FWIW .. Mike recommended a few years ago at least that you change the properties from showing a PERCENTAGE to a dB level. I have mine set to 0 dB on the properties, and have not see the issues others are seeing with the 64 bit version. I am using an external USB soundcard with the system (Sound Blaster xFi) which may be the reason I'm not seeing the issues, but I'm thinking its more the property setting. Neil, KN3iLZ Hi Neil, the issue is universal for all sound cards, including virtual devices like loopback services. For some devices 100% level is 0dB, i.e. they have no gain ahead of the ADC (or no ADC if they are a virtual device) apart from the mic. boost stage which is not affected by this issue. So for those using digital audio loopback devices and sound cards with no front end gain adjustment, there is no real problem assuming 0dB is compatible with the audio level being sampled. The real issue is where a sound card has gain ahead of the ADC because we cannot detect that and it will be set to maximum unconditionally on restart. The Qt fix that is in the pipeline will revert to not changing the existing gain settings when an audio input stream is opened. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
FWIW .. Mike recommended a few years ago at least that you change the properties from showing a PERCENTAGE to a dB level. I have mine set to 0 dB on the properties, and have not see the issues others are seeing with the 64 bit version. I am using an external USB soundcard with the system (Sound Blaster xFi) which may be the reason I'm not seeing the issues, but I'm thinking its more the property setting. Neil, KN3iLZ On 4/30/2019 2:53 PM, Enrique Scheuer wrote: Same problem here with the same operational conditions. de Enrique PY2CP Em ter, 30 de abr de 2019 às 15:31, Paul Kube mailto:paul.k...@gmail.com>> escreveu: Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): miclevel.png It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. Windows 10 Pro x64 here. 73, Paul K6PO On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level? WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI mailto:jo...@lb1hi.no>> To: wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Please be considerate of others. We don't speak or understand english very well but are venting our ideas on this list in good faith. Else simply delist all foreigners 73 Serge F6BHK On 30/04/2019 21:10, Joe Taylor wrote: Please read messages to the list before sending your own on the same topic! Please read the announcement abou -rc5: "Windows users will discover that WSJT-X v2.1.0 has been made available as a 64-bit MS Windows build for 64-bit versions of Windows since Vista. This version has one known defect. The audio input device level will be reset to 100% when WSJT-X is started, when the input audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. This is a Qt framework defect that we have reported and is being fixed in a future release; until then users should take care to set the device audio level back to 0dB or lower depending on requirements. Note that many sound cards and chips have real gain ahead of the ADC, as much as 14dB, which will be turned to the maximum due to this defect and is usually undesirable when using WSJT-X. "Despite this annoying defect, we recommend the 64-bit version of WSJT-X on MS Windows as it has significant advantages in decoding speed." -- 73, Joe, K1JT On 4/30/2019 14:53, Enrique Scheuer wrote: Same problem here with the same operational conditions. de Enrique PY2CP Em ter, 30 de abr de 2019 às 15:31, Paul Kube <mailto:paul.k...@gmail.com>> escreveu: Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): miclevel.png It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. Windows 10 Pro x64 here. 73, Paul K6PO On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level? WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI mailto:jo...@lb1hi.no>> To: wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel -- 73, de Serge F6BHK, ex-VR2LL, G5BHT, FM5GC PUY SAINT MARTIN, 26 DROME, FRANCE JN24LP ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Please read messages to the list before sending your own on the same topic! Please read the announcement abou -rc5: "Windows users will discover that WSJT-X v2.1.0 has been made available as a 64-bit MS Windows build for 64-bit versions of Windows since Vista. This version has one known defect. The audio input device level will be reset to 100% when WSJT-X is started, when the input audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. This is a Qt framework defect that we have reported and is being fixed in a future release; until then users should take care to set the device audio level back to 0dB or lower depending on requirements. Note that many sound cards and chips have real gain ahead of the ADC, as much as 14dB, which will be turned to the maximum due to this defect and is usually undesirable when using WSJT-X. "Despite this annoying defect, we recommend the 64-bit version of WSJT-X on MS Windows as it has significant advantages in decoding speed." -- 73, Joe, K1JT On 4/30/2019 14:53, Enrique Scheuer wrote: Same problem here with the same operational conditions. de Enrique PY2CP Em ter, 30 de abr de 2019 às 15:31, Paul Kube <mailto:paul.k...@gmail.com>> escreveu: Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): miclevel.png It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. Windows 10 Pro x64 here. 73, Paul K6PO On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level? WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI mailto:jo...@lb1hi.no>> To: wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Paul -- Did you read the -rc5 announcement before downloading the new package ??? "Windows users will discover that WSJT-X v2.1.0 has been made available as a 64-bit MS Windows build for 64-bit versions of Windows since Vista. This version has one known defect. The audio input device level will be reset to 100% when WSJT-X is started, when the input audio device is changed, and when switching to a new configuration. This is a Qt framework defect that we have reported and is being fixed in a future release; until then users should take care to set the device audio level back to 0dB or lower depending on requirements. Note that many sound cards and chips have real gain ahead of the ADC, as much as 14dB, which will be turned to the maximum due to this defect and is usually undesirable when using WSJT-X. "Despite this annoying defect, we recommend the 64-bit version of WSJT-X on MS Windows as it has significant advantages in decoding speed." -- 73, Joe, K1JT On 4/30/2019 14:28, Paul Kube wrote: Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): miclevel.png It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. Windows 10 Pro x64 here. 73, Paul K6PO On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level? WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI mailto:jo...@lb1hi.no>> To: wsjt-devel mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Same problem here with the same operational conditions. de Enrique PY2CP Em ter, 30 de abr de 2019 às 15:31, Paul Kube escreveu: > Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the > IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): > > [image: miclevel.png] > > It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it > to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. > > Windows 10 Pro x64 here. > > 73, Paul K6PO > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel < > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or >> the % level? >> WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. >> >> Recording audio should be at 0dB. >> >> de Mike W9MDB >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel < >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> >> It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. >> Mike/kf8my >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Joe, LB1HI >> To: wsjt-devel >> Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am >> Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level >> >> Hi, >> Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously >> pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card >> changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of >> the level setting range. >> >> 73`s Joe >> >> >> >> ___ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> ___ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> ___ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel >> > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Looking at this ("Microphone Properties" for the USB Audio Codec that the IC-7300 provides and that WSJT-X uses as input): [image: miclevel.png] It gets set to 100% whenever WSJT-X 2.1.0-rc5 starts, and I have to set it to 40% "by hand". WSJT-X 2.0.1 did not have this issue. Windows 10 Pro x64 here. 73, Paul K6PO On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:48 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or > the % level? > WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. > > Recording audio should be at 0dB. > > de Mike W9MDB > > > > > On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel < > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > > It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart. > Mike/kf8my > > > > -Original Message- > From: Joe, LB1HI > To: wsjt-devel > Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am > Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level > > Hi, > Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously > pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card > changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of > the level setting range. > > 73`s Joe > > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Are you guys looking at the dB level in the audio management panel? Or the % level?WSJT-X does not touch the audio so it has to be Windows doing it. Recording audio should be at 0dB. de Mike W9MDB On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 6:55:30 AM CDT, kf8my--- via wsjt-devel wrote: It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart.Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI To: wsjt-devel Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
It also does it in Win7, audio sound recording to max on restart.Mike/kf8my -Original Message- From: Joe, LB1HI To: wsjt-devel Sent: Tue, Apr 30, 2019 6:46 am Subject: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
On 30/04/2019 11:42, Joe, LB1HI wrote: Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe Hi Joe, this unfortunate defect in the Qt framework is noted in the release announcement. It only impacts the new MS Windows 64-bit build of WSJT-X. We have reported the issue to the Qt developers and they have fixed it for an upcoming release scheduled for May. Until then you must reset the input device audio level after a restart or revert to using the 32-bit build of WSJT-X for MS Windows. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] Another observed drawback - audio input level
Hi, Another observed drawback is that after each WSJT-X restart, previously pre-set audio (Win 10 64 bit) signal input level of the sound card changes. It changes spontaneously. It changes to a maximum - 100% of the level setting range. 73`s Joe ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel