Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
Jim: Today, I went back to my first saved FT8-RU test contest and the Contest Log compared to my actual HRD LB spot on as did the one from this weekend. As stated to Bill, my Windows 10 Pro clock is set to display 24hr (HH:MM:SS) using Windows clock settings, and I use T-Clock to actually display the clock, in LOCAL 24H TIME, on the right of the Task Bar in LARGE numbers that I can easily see. I'm set to US Central Standard Time with automatic DST and the Windows Time Service is disabled. BKT is used to sync time once an hour and that keeps my DT within +0.3 seconds on average. I seldom see a negative DT. This is how my computer has been set for years, even way before FT8. Nothing was changed, but I tried setting the sync as far back as 6 hours and was still with the current 2.5 second window. So my computer clock is really stable. I've had zero problems with RC4 or RC5 except for a couple of the discovered "bugs" that were fixed in RC5. My color highlights seem to be working perfectly in RC5 as I've cross checked them with JTA and my HRD LB on many occasions. All these logging problems are perplexing until it was realized most were caused by using Tab 2 instead of Tab 1. I have no clue how anyone knows what is happening with Tab 2 until it prints on the screen. A very confusing GUI there for sure. My JTA panel only shows stations that are calling CQ, are new to me on the current band and are LoTW users in the past year. During the contest, I had as many as 10 (of my 12 slots) with new stations in them. Typically, it's 3-5. Even with the highlight fixes due in the GA next week, I'll probably still use JTA as it's more concise and easier to read at a glance. WSJTx sent each and every FT8 RU contact to the Contact Log and directly to HRD LB without dropping any data at all. Everything agrees 100% with no manual intervention by me. I do edit some European QTH's in HRD LB when they have their Postal Code in front of their city name since it makes my LB look kinda funny. George ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
I would also be interested to find our what is going on here. It seems like there are in reality two issues? Every computer has the log displaying in 12 hour format, and some computers additionally displaying local time while others (who live nowhere near the prime meridian) display correct UTC time in 12 hour format while the PC system clock was set to the local time zone. How is this possible? 73 -Jim NU0C On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 17:07:30 -0600 WB5JJJ wrote: > Bill: > > My computer is set for Central Time USA and not UTC. The Contest Log has > always shown the correct UTC since the first RU test. > > On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:34 AM Bill Somerville > wrote: > > > On 03/12/2018 17:18, WB5JJJ wrote: > > > > Explain me this. My UCT was correctly logged in the Contest Log from the > > get go. 24 hour and all. My Win10 system was already set for 24 hour > > display and I use a program called T-Clock to display the time in the lower > > right Task Bar spot replacing the dinky Windows clock and sync my time > > every hour. This program gives me a nice modifiable time clock HH:MM:SS in > > 24h mode as well as a realistic "Big Ben" chiming function on computers > > other than the one in the Ham Shack. Could this be the reason my UCT was > > correct? BTW, this clock shows the LOCAL time, not UTC. I still need that > > to know what time it is here. HiHi. > > > > 73's - George > > > > Hi George, > > > > your change to the regional default in Windows to show times in 24hr > > format explains the display in the contest log page. The next release > > overrides the system setting and always displays 24hr format with seconds > > showing. > > > > I can't explain your log not displaying (erroneously) in local time, > > perhaps the time zone setting on your computer is UTC? > > > > 73 > > Bill > > G4WJS. -- “There’s something out of place – let’s go and poke it with a stick.” – The Doctor, "Amy’s Choice" ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
Bill: My computer is set for Central Time USA and not UTC. The Contest Log has always shown the correct UTC since the first RU test. On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:34 AM Bill Somerville wrote: > On 03/12/2018 17:18, WB5JJJ wrote: > > Explain me this. My UCT was correctly logged in the Contest Log from the > get go. 24 hour and all. My Win10 system was already set for 24 hour > display and I use a program called T-Clock to display the time in the lower > right Task Bar spot replacing the dinky Windows clock and sync my time > every hour. This program gives me a nice modifiable time clock HH:MM:SS in > 24h mode as well as a realistic "Big Ben" chiming function on computers > other than the one in the Ham Shack. Could this be the reason my UCT was > correct? BTW, this clock shows the LOCAL time, not UTC. I still need that > to know what time it is here. HiHi. > > 73's - George > > Hi George, > > your change to the regional default in Windows to show times in 24hr > format explains the display in the contest log page. The next release > overrides the system setting and always displays 24hr format with seconds > showing. > > I can't explain your log not displaying (erroneously) in local time, > perhaps the time zone setting on your computer is UTC? > > 73 > Bill > G4WJS. > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > -- George Cotton, WB5JJJ PO Box 1025 Russellville, AR 72811 479.968.7737 Home 479.857.7737 Cell DMR K5CS (Local Repeater) - 310515, CC1, TS2 DMR Arkansas - 3105 4 ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
On 03/12/2018 17:18, WB5JJJ wrote: Explain me this. My UCT was correctly logged in the Contest Log from the get go. 24 hour and all. My Win10 system was already set for 24 hour display and I use a program called T-Clock to display the time in the lower right Task Bar spot replacing the dinky Windows clock and sync my time every hour. This program gives me a nice modifiable time clock HH:MM:SS in 24h mode as well as a realistic "Big Ben" chiming function on computers other than the one in the Ham Shack. Could this be the reason my UCT was correct? BTW, this clock shows the LOCAL time, not UTC. I still need that to know what time it is here. HiHi. 73's - George Hi George, your change to the regional default in Windows to show times in 24hr format explains the display in the contest log page. The next release overrides the system setting and always displays 24hr format with seconds showing. I can't explain your log not displaying (erroneously) in local time, perhaps the time zone setting on your computer is UTC? 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
Bill: Explain me this. My UCT was correctly logged in the Contest Log from the get go. 24 hour and all. My Win10 system was already set for 24 hour display and I use a program called T-Clock to display the time in the lower right Task Bar spot replacing the dinky Windows clock and sync my time every hour. This program gives me a nice modifiable time clock HH:MM:SS in 24h mode as well as a realistic "Big Ben" chiming function on computers other than the one in the Ham Shack. Could this be the reason my UCT was correct? BTW, this clock shows the LOCAL time, not UTC. I still need that to know what time it is here. HiHi. 73's - George On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 11:08 AM Bill Somerville wrote: > On 03/12/2018 03:59, Rich Zwirko - K1HTV wrote: > > I noticed during the FT8 RU that the log page, although in UTC, is not > > in the 24 hour format but uses the 12 hour plus AM or PM. Who uses UTC > > in 12 AM/PM format? Almost all Ham logs are in 24 hour format, right? > > > > 73, > > Rich - K1HTV > > Hi Rich, > > already fixed for the next release, displayed date and time in the > COntest Log window were in the local time zone and with the PC's > regional display format which in "English (United States)" is 12hr > AM/PM. Underlying data is correctly stored in UTC. > > 73 > Bill > G4WJS. > > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > -- George Cotton, WB5JJJ ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
On 03/12/2018 03:59, Rich Zwirko - K1HTV wrote: I noticed during the FT8 RU that the log page, although in UTC, is not in the 24 hour format but uses the 12 hour plus AM or PM. Who uses UTC in 12 AM/PM format? Almost all Ham logs are in 24 hour format, right? 73, Rich - K1HTV Hi Rich, already fixed for the next release, displayed date and time in the COntest Log window were in the local time zone and with the PC's regional display format which in "English (United States)" is 12hr AM/PM. Underlying data is correctly stored in UTC. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] UTC time in contest log page
I noticed during the FT8 RU that the log page, although in UTC, is not in the 24 hour format but uses the 12 hour plus AM or PM. Who uses UTC in 12 AM/PM format? Almost all Ham logs are in 24 hour format, right? 73, Rich - K1HTV ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
