Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread John Zantek 
I just worked him on 40M, George, and he was transmitting on EVEN.  I’m 
assuming there’s only one operator and he’s running two stations.

 

John W7CD

 

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Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About 
half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the happening?  
He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.  



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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML 
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:09 AM Iztok Saje  wrote:
> It is VP6D, not casual Fox.
> Yes, I tried for some time but give up: VP6D was -17 at best, so 20 minutes 
> is enough.
> And they faded out.
>
> For people in wrong TS (or correct one), I've seen it all:
> - people calling below 1 kHz
> - people calling with TX2, obviously not F/H mode
> - people not receiving answer(those few I decoded)
> - people sending TX3 above 1 kHz
> - people calling them on their frequency (and wrong TS, so they block it for 
> me)

Also seen, in just a few mins of watching:

- people calling the wrong DXpedition (VK9XG)
- people trying to start QSOs with other hounds


> I guess most people got info on DX cluster and start calling without ever 
> hearing them.
> Others try to do their first FT8/WSJTX QSO ever to get ATNO.
>
>
> It is well known that if you shout enough you can compensate not hearing the 
> other side.
> (I missed this lesson a while ago, so I do not understand it:
> but it is common on any pile up so it must be true).

I skipped that day of DXing school also :/


> Nothing to be done in SW. It is part of DXers life on CW/SSB for years.
>
> Again: VP6D. Not casual Fox.

Indeed. Glad they're easy to work (prop-wise) from here (2 calls on
20m, and 4 calls on 12m)... now I can sit back and decide whether to
laugh or cry 

BTW, seems that only some of the 20m QSOs are showing up on DXA, and
none of the 12m ones so-far.

GL/73,

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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread Iztok Saje 

Hi!

It is VP6D, not casual Fox.
Yes, I tried for some time but give up: VP6D was -17 at best, so 20 minutes is 
enough.
And they faded out.

For people in wrong TS (or correct one), I've seen it all:
- people calling below 1 kHz
- people calling with TX2, obviously not F/H mode
- people not receiving answer(those few I decoded)
- people sending TX3 above 1 kHz
- people calling them on their frequency (and wrong TS, so they block it for me)

I guess most people got info on DX cluster and start calling without ever 
hearing them.
Others try to do their first FT8/WSJTX QSO ever to get ATNO.


It is well known that if you shout enough you can compensate not hearing the 
other side.
(I missed this lesson a while ago, so I do not understand it:
but it is common on any pile up so it must be true).

Nothing to be done in SW. It is part of DXers life on CW/SSB for years.

Again: VP6D. Not casual Fox.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread jarmo 
Mon, 22 Oct 2018 10:14:29 -0500
WB5JJJ  kirjoitti:

> If you try CTL-E or Shift-E, it will toggle the time slot even when
> grayed out.  This should have been removed in F/H mode, but was not.

But most funniest thing is,that half world calling wrong period. Don't
watch what's happening on band activity window :)

Like my mistake with ctrl-e. VP6D answered to me once, but that qso went
to bit heaven, aaargh!

And now seems AURORA rising, so can wait nothing on bands during few
days ahead..

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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread WB5JJJ 
If you try CTL-E or Shift-E, it will toggle the time slot even when grayed
out.  This should have been removed in F/H mode, but was not.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 10:12 AM jarmo  wrote:

> Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:36:05 -0500
> "Ted Gisske"  kirjoitti:
>
> > He is using V1.9.1. You are likely using V2.0 RCx. Reinstall V1.9.1
> > and all will be well.
>
> I have 1.9.1 and impossible work hound, tx even..
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread jarmo 
Mon, 22 Oct 2018 09:36:05 -0500
"Ted Gisske"  kirjoitti:

> He is using V1.9.1. You are likely using V2.0 RCx. Reinstall V1.9.1
> and all will be well. 

I have 1.9.1 and impossible work hound, tx even..

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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread George J. Molnar 
Clicking on their (odd sequence) CQ does put my Hound into TX first, and seems 
to work okay. The checkbox IS greyed out, so I can’t manually change it.

Ver 1.9.1 running Mac OS.



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> On Oct 22, 2018, at 10:46 AM, WB5JJJ  wrote:
> 
> Those options should have been removed for the F/H mode.  Perhaps, they 
> triggered this by accident.  
> 
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:41 AM Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel 
> mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>> 
> wrote:
> Ctrl-E - Turns on TX Even
> Shift-E - Turns off TX Even
>  
> good luck
>  
> Sam W2JDB
> 
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: WB5JJJ mailto:wb5...@gmail.com>>
> To: wsjt-devel  <mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2018 10:32 am
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
> 
> Yes, you are correct.  
> 
> I think what we are seeing is a glitch in the software on their end, which 
> was an occurrence even I experienced where I was not able to UNCHECK the EVEN 
> box as it was grayed out.  Restarting WSJTx solved the problem and it's never 
> returned.  But how are so many guys transmitting on the EVEN time slot?  They 
> must be using v1.8.x which, if I remember, would allow choosing time slot.  
> What's funny, is all the guys transmitting on ODD with no chance of being 
> heard by VP6D.  
> 
> Time to move on to another frequency and let this run it's course.  
> 
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:22 AM Jay Hainline > wrote:
> I am seeing this too George as of 1415z on 14090. I remember where this could 
> happened in an earlier version but thought it had been fixed. 
> 
> Jay KA9CFD
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> Subject: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
> 
> Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About 
> half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the happening? 
>  He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.  
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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread WB5JJJ 
Those options should have been removed for the F/H mode.  Perhaps, they
triggered this by accident.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:41 AM Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Ctrl-E - Turns on TX Even
> Shift-E - Turns off TX Even
>
> good luck
>
> Sam W2JDB
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: WB5JJJ 
> To: wsjt-devel 
> Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2018 10:32 am
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
>
> Yes, you are correct.
>
> I think what we are seeing is a glitch in the software on their end, which
> was an occurrence even I experienced where I was not able to UNCHECK the
> EVEN box as it was grayed out.  Restarting WSJTx solved the problem and
> it's never returned.  But how are so many guys transmitting on the EVEN
> time slot?  They must be using v1.8.x which, if I remember, would allow
> choosing time slot.  What's funny, is all the guys transmitting on ODD with
> no chance of being heard by VP6D.
>
> Time to move on to another frequency and let this run it's course.
>
> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:22 AM Jay Hainline  wrote:
>
> I am seeing this too George as of 1415z on 14090. I remember where this
> could happened in an earlier version but thought it had been fixed.
>
> Jay KA9CFD
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: WB5JJJ 
> Date: 10/22/18 09:01 (GMT-06:00)
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
>
> Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.
> About half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the
> happening?  He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread WB5JJJ 
Nope.  They said they were using v1.9.1 and that's what I'm running.

The option to transmit on EVEN is grayed out since v1.9.0 rc2 ( I just
reloaded all previous versions to see ).  In v1.8.x, the F/H option is not
there yet.
I see there is a code that allows CTRL-E and SHIFT-E to switch time slots.
This should have been disabled in F/H mode.


On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:39 AM Ted Gisske  wrote:

> He is using V1.9.1. You are likely using V2.0 RCx. Reinstall V1.9.1 and
> all will be well.
>
> 73,
>
> Ted
>
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>
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> *Subject:* [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
>
>
>
> Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.
> About half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the
> happening?  He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread Sam W2JDB via wsjt-devel 

Ctrl-E - Turns on TX Even
Shift-E - Turns off TX Even
 
good luck
 

Sam W2JDB



 
 
-Original Message-
From: WB5JJJ 
To: wsjt-devel 
Sent: Mon, Oct 22, 2018 10:32 am
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot



Yes, you are correct.  



I think what we are seeing is a glitch in the software on their end, which was 
an occurrence even I experienced where I was not able to UNCHECK the EVEN box 
as it was grayed out.  Restarting WSJTx solved the problem and it's never 
returned.  But how are so many guys transmitting on the EVEN time slot?  They 
must be using v1.8.x which, if I remember, would allow choosing time slot.  
What's funny, is all the guys transmitting on ODD with no chance of being heard 
by VP6D.  



Time to move on to another frequency and let this run it's course.  



On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:22 AM Jay Hainline  wrote:


I am seeing this too George as of 1415z on 14090. I remember where this could 
happened in an earlier version but thought it had been fixed. 


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 Original message 
From: WB5JJJ  
Date: 10/22/18  09:01  (GMT-06:00) 
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
Subject: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot 



Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About 
half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the happening?  
He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.  


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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread Ted Gisske 
He is using V1.9.1. You are likely using V2.0 RCx. Reinstall V1.9.1 and all 
will be well. 

73,

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Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About 
half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the happening?  
He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.  



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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread WB5JJJ 
Yes, you are correct.

I think what we are seeing is a glitch in the software on their end, which
was an occurrence even I experienced where I was not able to UNCHECK the
EVEN box as it was grayed out.  Restarting WSJTx solved the problem and
it's never returned.  But how are so many guys transmitting on the EVEN
time slot?  They must be using v1.8.x which, if I remember, would allow
choosing time slot.  What's funny, is all the guys transmitting on ODD with
no chance of being heard by VP6D.

Time to move on to another frequency and let this run it's course.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 9:22 AM Jay Hainline  wrote:

> I am seeing this too George as of 1415z on 14090. I remember where this
> could happened in an earlier version but thought it had been fixed.
>
> Jay KA9CFD
>
>
>
> Sent from my U.S.Cellular© Smartphone
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>  Original message 
> From: WB5JJJ 
> Date: 10/22/18 09:01 (GMT-06:00)
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot
>
> Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.
> About half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the
> happening?  He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread Jay Hainline 
I am seeing this too George as of 1415z on 14090. I remember where this could 
happened in an earlier version but thought it had been fixed. 
Jay KA9CFD


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[wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot 
Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About 
half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the happening?  
He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.  

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[wsjt-devel] VP6D on wrong time slot

2018-10-22 Thread WB5JJJ 
Right now on 20m (14.090) VP6D is transmitting on the ODD time slot.  About
half of the callers are on EVEN and the others on ODD.  How is the
happening?  He's using DX Fox according to what I'm seeing from him.

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