Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-08 Thread Bill Somerville 

On 07/07/2017 14:43, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

For Bill

The easy way to test functionality is to remove set_vfo from dummy.c 
in hamlib and test with that and rigctld.


WSJT-X will fail.  So it's just changing the set_vfo capability logic 
to match get the get_vfo logic.


Bill's hamlib has been updated for the rigctld side to fix that side 
of the problem.  The set_vfo.patch is the WSJT-X side of the equation.


This showed up on the FT-891/991 not having vfo capabilities.
de Mike W9MDB


Hi Mike,

I have committed a change based on your patch r7818. I had to change it 
a fair bit to get it working on other rigs and to not force a set VFO 
operation for all at startup. I have tested with a mock dummy rig and 
rigctld as you suggest, I had to disable both get and set VFO to 
reproduce an error.


You may wish to review my change and maybe send a version to whoever had 
the initial issue with the FT-991 and rigctld.


73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-07 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
For Bill
The easy way to test functionality is to remove set_vfo from dummy.c in hamlib 
and test with that and rigctld.
WSJT-X will fail.  So it's just changing the set_vfo capability logic to match 
get the get_vfo logic.
Bill's hamlib has been updated for the rigctld side to fix that side of the 
problem.  The set_vfo.patch is the WSJT-X side of the equation.
This showed up on the FT-891/991 not having vfo capabilities. de Mike W9MDB


  From: Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu>
 To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 8:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
Mike --

Thanks for submitting the patches!  I have installed "menu.patch" and 
"qsotime.patch".  They appear to be OK, but please double-check to be 
sure their functions are what's wanted.

I have left rigctld_setvfo.patch for Bill; I have no easy way to test 
its functionality here.

    -- Joe

On 7/6/2017 5:06 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> Pull the qsotime.patch again -- I just posted another one.
> 
> At least in my testing it's working for both double clicking QSOs in the 
> Rx Freq column and with short modes.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> *From:* Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
> *To:* wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
> 
> On 06/07/2017 17:00, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>> I've got 3 patches outstanding
>>
>> #1 Menu controls working when controls are hidden + CTRL-E/Shift-E 
>> shortcuts for enabling/disabling Tx even/1st
>> #2 Fix rigctld aborting on rigs without set_vfo (e.g. FT-891/991)
>> #3 Fix QSO start times for double-click progression and autoseq modes
>>
>> Here they are:
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/d20ycgqtthckudk/rigctld_setvfo.patch?dl=1
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/frarvcjefhxn5d2/menu.patch?dl=1
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr4lcc7rcg00j1i/qsotime.patch?dl=1
>>
>> de Mike W9MDB
> Hi Mike,
> thanks for the reminder. I need to pull the amended version of your 
> start and end times and check it it with short T/R periods. I will look 
> at those three as well.
> 73
> Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-07 Thread Joe Taylor 

Mike --

Thanks for submitting the patches!  I have installed "menu.patch" and 
"qsotime.patch".  They appear to be OK, but please double-check to be 
sure their functions are what's wanted.


I have left rigctld_setvfo.patch for Bill; I have no easy way to test 
its functionality here.


-- Joe

On 7/6/2017 5:06 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

Pull the qsotime.patch again -- I just posted another one.

At least in my testing it's working for both double clicking QSOs in the 
Rx Freq column and with short modes.


de Mike W9MDB


*From:* Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
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*Sent:* Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:12 AM
*Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

On 06/07/2017 17:00, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

I've got 3 patches outstanding

#1 Menu controls working when controls are hidden + CTRL-E/Shift-E 
shortcuts for enabling/disabling Tx even/1st

#2 Fix rigctld aborting on rigs without set_vfo (e.g. FT-891/991)
#3 Fix QSO start times for double-click progression and autoseq modes

Here they are:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d20ycgqtthckudk/rigctld_setvfo.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/frarvcjefhxn5d2/menu.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr4lcc7rcg00j1i/qsotime.patch?dl=1

de Mike W9MDB

Hi Mike,
thanks for the reminder. I need to pull the amended version of your 
start and end times and check it it with short T/R periods. I will look 
at those three as well.

73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-07 Thread Bill Somerville 

On 07/07/2017 07:58, Adrian Fabry wrote:
2. For the saved wav files, mode and submode should be included in the 
file name


Hi Ady,

more information is included in the catalogue of the WAV files. It can 
be examined using a tool like Audacity to look at the metadata. It is 
unfortunate that the WAV file format largely designed by Microsoft is 
not correctly displayed in MS Windows File Explorer. At some point I am 
considering displaying the metadata either in a custom file selector for 
WSJT-X "Open file" or displaying the information when a file is played back.


73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-07 Thread Adrian Fabry 
Hi Joe,

thank you and all the development team for the work.

I'd suggest two features:

1. QRA64:  Different color (or using bold chars) for the AP part of the
decoded message, when AP was used in the decode.
2. For the saved wav files, mode and submode should be included in the file
name

73 Ady YO2NAA


On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:46 PM, Joe Taylor  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that will
> be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
> ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
> Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>
> -- Joe, K1JT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
Pull the qsotime.patch again -- I just posted another one.
At least in my testing it's working for both double clicking QSOs in the Rx 
Freq column and with short modes.
de Mike W9MDB 
  From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
 On 06/07/2017 17:00, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
  
 I've got 3 patches outstanding 
  #1 Menu controls working when controls are hidden + CTRL-E/Shift-E shortcuts 
for enabling/disabling Tx even/1st #2 Fix rigctld aborting on rigs without 
set_vfo (e.g. FT-891/991) #3 Fix QSO start times for double-click progression 
and autoseq modes 
  Here they are: 
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/d20ycgqtthckudk/rigctld_setvfo.patch?dl=1
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/frarvcjefhxn5d2/menu.patch?dl=1
  https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr4lcc7rcg00j1i/qsotime.patch?dl=1
  
  de Mike W9MDB 
 Hi Mike, thanks for the reminder. I need to pull the amended version of your 
start and end times and check it it with short T/R periods. I will look at 
those three as well. 73
 Bill
 G4WJS.
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Tim Carlson 
Thank you, Michael.  I’ve been confused as to the function of the slider - it 
never seemed to do anything for me because I’ve always left Flatten checked.

It seems like education is needed in either case (leaving it on the main 
window, or moving it to the waterfall window).  In that case, it makes much 
more intuitive sense to move it to the waterfall window and disabling it 
(greyed out) if Flatten is checked (if that’s possible with Qt).

-Tim (KD0GYG)


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> The slider now only controls the waterfall level on both the Fast graph and 
> Wide graph, though if Flatten is checked on the Widegraph than the slider 
> control is not effective.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
That's a good idea...if only the Wide Graph is visible and Flatten checked or 
neither graph is visible then disable the slider.I like it.  Then the question 
will be "why is the slider greyed out" :-)
de Mike W9MDB

  From: Tim Carlson <t...@widehf.com>
 To: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>; WSJT software development 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
Thank you, Michael.  I’ve been confused as to the function of the slider - it 
never seemed to do anything for me because I’ve always left Flatten checked.
It seems like education is needed in either case (leaving it on the main 
window, or moving it to the waterfall window).  In that case, it makes much 
more intuitive sense to move it to the waterfall window and disabling it 
(greyed out) if Flatten is checked (if that’s possible with Qt).
-Tim (KD0GYG)



On Jul 6, 2017, at 2:05 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
The slider now only controls the waterfall level on both the Fast graph and 
Wide graph, though if Flatten is checked on the Widegraph than the slider 
control is not effective.



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Joe Taylor 

Hi Al,

On 7/6/2017 3:59 PM, CX8AT VERA wrote:
Maybe I missed something when reading this group's mail, but something 
that I don't like is to have 2 windows (main window and wide graph)  
apart, is hard for me to keep both with the right size in a small wide 
13" notebook,  It is possible to have both just in one windows? this 
maybe imply to reorganize all the commands or there are some other 
reasons to keep them this way. Just a thought.


Al
CX8AT


Using separate windows for the Main Window, Wide Graph, Fast Graph, Echo 
Graph, Astronomical data, and several other specialized windows is 
fundamental to the way WSJT-X is designed.  It provides much more 
flexibility for the use of screen space.  This philosophy will not be 
changed.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
I don't know if expanding the explanation about the effects of things in the 
docs would help.  Like what NOT to do.Seems most don't read them anyways...but 
maybe we should do it anyways for those that do.
The more education the better IMHO
So instead of
Use the receiver gain controls and/or the computer’s audio mixer controls to 
set the background noise level (scale at lower left of main window) to around 
30 dB when no signals are present. It is usually best to turn AGC off or reduce 
the RF gain control to minimize AGC action.

This instead (comments welcome).
Set your audio card to 0dB.  In Windows you can look at the Levels on the 
Recording device and right-click to get dB scale.  As close to 0dB as you can 
get is what you want.  There should be no gain or attenuation as this is a 
digital control and any gain/attenuation does pretty much nothing.  (Mac and 
Linux directions too should be here).One your audio card is set to 0dB use the 
receiver gain controls and/or external analog audio device control (e.g. 
Signalink) to get 30dB on the meter when no signals are present.   It is 
usually best to turn AGC off or reduce the RF gain control to minimize AGC 
action.  Only analog controls should be used to adjust the incoming signal 
level.
Note:  Version 1.8.0 disconnected the slider from the meter.  The slider never 
did control recording level, it only controlled the waterfall level.  The 
slider now only controls the waterfall level on both the Fast graph and Wide 
graph, though if Flatten is checked on the Widegraph than the slider control is 
not effective.
de Mike W9MDB
  From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
 On 06/07/2017 20:43, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
  
 This was discussed a while ago and those users who were using the FastGraph 
wanted to keep the control on the main window. 
  So...preferring usability over confusion was the result and it was decided to 
keep it on the main window. 
  It will be a teaching process and I'm sure we'll get lots of "slider doesn't 
work anymore" -- but the education process is well worth it. If we took it off 
we'd get the same questions except "what happend to the slider" -- still 
requiring the same education. 
  The tooltip on the slider tells you exactly what it does.  Maybe we should 
stick a "THIS DOESN'T CONTROL THE METER ANYMORE" in there...but they still 
wouldn't read the tooltip in all likelihood. 
  Or maybe a splash screen that tells the major differences? 
 HI Mike, my experience and that shown in some posts here is that users will 
still misunderstand and adjust the Windows audio sliders to get the level meter 
around 30 - 40dB. It is a good thing that the level is not too critical as so 
many believe that digital gain controls do something cleverer than simply 
multiplying or dividing the sample values by some factor. Clipped cannot be 
unclipped and in the noise cannot be extracted from the noise by doing that.
  73
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread CX8AT VERA 

Hi Joe

Maybe I missed something when reading this group's mail, but something 
that I don't like is to have 2 windows (main window and wide graph)  
apart, is hard for me to keep both with the right size in a small wide 
13" notebook,  It is possible to have both just in one windows? this 
maybe imply to reorganize all the commands or there are some other 
reasons to keep them this way. Just a thought.


Al
CX8AT


On 06/07/2017 12:46, Joe Taylor wrote:

Hi all,

I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that 
will be in WSJT-X v1.8.


1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
ft8d.
5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
Commander and OmniRig
8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface

Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?

-- Joe, K1JT

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Bill Somerville 

On 06/07/2017 20:43, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
This was discussed a while ago and those users who were using the 
FastGraph wanted to keep the control on the main window.


So...preferring usability over confusion was the result and it was 
decided to keep it on the main window.


It will be a teaching process and I'm sure we'll get lots of "slider 
doesn't work anymore" -- but the education process is well worth it.
If we took it off we'd get the same questions except "what happend to 
the slider" -- still requiring the same education.


The tooltip on the slider tells you exactly what it does.  Maybe we 
should stick a "THIS DOESN'T CONTROL THE METER ANYMORE" in there...but 
they still wouldn't read the tooltip in all likelihood.


Or maybe a splash screen that tells the major differences?


HI Mike,

my experience and that shown in some posts here is that users will still 
misunderstand and adjust the Windows audio sliders to get the level 
meter around 30 - 40dB. It is a good thing that the level is not too 
critical as so many believe that digital gain controls do something 
cleverer than simply multiplying or dividing the sample values by some 
factor. Clipped cannot be unclipped and in the noise cannot be extracted 
from the noise by doing that.


73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
This was discussed a while ago and those users who were using the FastGraph 
wanted to keep the control on the main window.
So...preferring usability over confusion was the result and it was decided to 
keep it on the main window.
It will be a teaching process and I'm sure we'll get lots of "slider doesn't 
work anymore" -- but the education process is well worth it.If we took it off 
we'd get the same questions except "what happend to the slider" -- still 
requiring the same education.
The tooltip on the slider tells you exactly what it does.  Maybe we should 
stick a "THIS DOESN'T CONTROL THE METER ANYMORE" in there...but they still 
wouldn't read the tooltip in all likelihood.
Or maybe a splash screen that tells the major differences?
de Mike W9MDB

  From: George J Molnar <geo...@molnar.com>
 To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
About the former “digital gain” slider - yes, I agree it’s time to move it out 
of the main window. If the functionality is retained in the fast and slow 
graphs, then it can be eliminated entirely. We might want to consider unifying 
the waterfall controls in a pop up that can be hidden once adjusted, leaving 
just a hide/unhide button on the graph/waterfall. 
Like Gary, I don’t adjust it too often once set up on a band.  

George J MolnarNevada, USA
KF2T  @GJMolnar


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread George J Molnar 
About the former “digital gain” slider - yes, I agree it’s time to move it out 
of the main window. If the functionality is retained in the fast and slow 
graphs, then it can be eliminated entirely. We might want to consider unifying 
the waterfall controls in a pop up that can be hidden once adjusted, leaving 
just a hide/unhide button on the graph/waterfall. 

Like Gary, I don’t adjust it too often once set up on a band.  


George J Molnar
Nevada, USA
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Gary McDuffie 

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> We talked about removing the slider and putting it on the waterfall but some 
> wanted it to remain on the main screen.

Commenting ONLY on this part of it, the slider does seem a bit redundant, and I 
could easily do without it.  I tend to use a set calibration point.  I never 
adjust it because it is set for the particular rig to computer interface on the 
quietest band/frequency, and with the antenna in the quietest direction.  For 
me, this is done on six meters.  When I get to that calibration point, I set 
the slider at mid-scale, as we were instructed, and 0db on the sound card.  
THEN adjust the WG/FG controls for my preferred view and hide the controls.  If 
I go to some frequency or band where the level increases, I decrease it with 
the RF gain for the proper meter reading.  The original set point was with full 
RF Gain.  Remember, I calibrated on the quietest conditions I could fined.  The 
slider never moves once it is set.

Gary - AG0N
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Dan Malcolm 
Mike,

I discovered this change and made changes to my soundcard levels.  But I have 
to confess that the slider looks like it controls levels also.  First it is 
adjacent to the level meter on the left bottom, and second it is not labeled.  
Personally if it controls something waterfall it should be on the waterfall.  
In the end though it needs something to indicate that its effect is on the 
waterfall, and there is a tooltip to indicate that.  Perhaps a note in the 
change notes is warrented.

 

From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net] 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 11:08 AM
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Cc: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

 

What change?  The meter shows the recording level now instead of the waterfall 
level.  The slider controls the waterfall and not the meter anymore (it never 
should have).

We talked about removing the slider and putting it on the waterfall but some 
wanted it to remain on the main screen.

 

de Mike W9MDB

 

 

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Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

 

Hi Joe

Perhaps worth mentioning the change to the audio level setting to avoid
inadvertent clipping - folks now have to adjust soundcard level controls,
radio level  or external 'attenuator'.

Charlie

  > Hi all,
>
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that
> will be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>  ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>  Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>
> -- Joe, K1JT
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
The slider NEVER affected recording level and caused far too many problems with 
misinterpretation.
What you see on the meter IS the recording level and it cannot and should not 
be changed from WSJT-X as that would all be in the digital space where you 
don't want to touch things.
You want 0dB on the gain in your sound card and then adjust the rig audio to 
get the 30dB minimum level.  WJST-X shows you the result of those two things 
and that's the only two things that need adjusting.
de Mike W9MDB 
  From: "char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk" 
<char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk>
 To: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>; WSJT software development 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
Mike

The change that disconnected the thermometer from the waterfall slider.

A number of folks set the input audio at any old level and adjusted the
slider to get the thermometer mid range.  The change will force
appropriate level adjustment.

73

Charlie

> What change?  The meter shows the recording level now instead of the
> waterfall level.  The slider controls the waterfall and not the meter
> anymore (it never should have).We talked about removing the slider and
> putting it on the waterfall but some wanted it to remain on the main
> screen.
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>      From: "char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk"
> <char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk>
>  To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>  Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:00 AM
>  Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
>
> Hi Joe
>
> Perhaps worth mentioning the change to the audio level setting to avoid
> inadvertent clipping - folks now have to adjust soundcard level controls,
> radio level  or external 'attenuator'.
>
> Charlie
>
>   > Hi all,
>>
>> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that
>> will be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>>
>> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
>> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
>> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
>> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>>      ft8d.
>> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
>> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
>> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>>      Commander and OmniRig
>> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>>
>> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>>
>>     -- Joe, K1JT
>>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
I'll agree that automating the freq cal would be good.
It's not real simple to make it foolproof. Since it's a linear correction I 
think only two or three points at most are needed just using WWV and one AM 
station would be good but not necessary.  The AM station would have to be 
manually entered unless we came up with a searchable list based on your grid 
location.  Or some other "in your face" prompt to force you to enter one.
The default Freq Cal stations int the AM band should be removed as they could 
easily overlap in places and provide bad results.
de Mike W9MDB


  From: Steven Franke <s.j.fra...@icloud.com>
 To: Joe Taylor <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
The following come to mind:

- Phase and amplitude equalization for MSK144. (We/I need to fix the refspec 
part of this, and also write up some docs)
- SWL mode for MSK144 allows third-party monitoring Sh-message QSOs.
- Enhanced frequency management scheme (Bill should contribute the proper 
description).

I still think that it would be very useful if we could further automate the 
fmeasure/fmtave/fcal stuff so that it is as simple as pushing a button… But 
realistically, that may be something for when the snow is flying.

Steve, k9an


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Joe Taylor <j...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that will be 
> in WSJT-X v1.8.
> 
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>    ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>    Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
> 
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
> 
>     -- Joe, K1JT
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread charlie 
Mike

The change that disconnected the thermometer from the waterfall slider.

A number of folks set the input audio at any old level and adjusted the
slider to get the thermometer mid range.  The change will force
appropriate level adjustment.

73

Charlie

> What change?  The meter shows the recording level now instead of the
> waterfall level.  The slider controls the waterfall and not the meter
> anymore (it never should have).We talked about removing the slider and
> putting it on the waterfall but some wanted it to remain on the main
> screen.
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>   From: "char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk"
> <char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk>
>  To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
>  Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:00 AM
>  Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
>
> Hi Joe
>
> Perhaps worth mentioning the change to the audio level setting to avoid
> inadvertent clipping - folks now have to adjust soundcard level controls,
> radio level  or external 'attenuator'.
>
> Charlie
>
>   > Hi all,
>>
>> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that
>> will be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>>
>> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
>> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
>> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
>> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>>      ft8d.
>> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
>> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
>> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>>      Commander and OmniRig
>> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>>
>> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>>
>>     -- Joe, K1JT
>>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Bill Somerville 

On 06/07/2017 17:00, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

I've got 3 patches outstanding

#1 Menu controls working when controls are hidden + CTRL-E/Shift-E 
shortcuts for enabling/disabling Tx even/1st

#2 Fix rigctld aborting on rigs without set_vfo (e.g. FT-891/991)
#3 Fix QSO start times for double-click progression and autoseq modes

Here they are:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/d20ycgqtthckudk/rigctld_setvfo.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/frarvcjefhxn5d2/menu.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr4lcc7rcg00j1i/qsotime.patch?dl=1

de Mike W9MDB


Hi Mike,

thanks for the reminder. I need to pull the amended version of your 
start and end times and check it it with short T/R periods. I will look 
at those three as well.


73
Bill
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
What change?  The meter shows the recording level now instead of the waterfall 
level.  The slider controls the waterfall and not the meter anymore (it never 
should have).We talked about removing the slider and putting it on the 
waterfall but some wanted it to remain on the main screen.
de Mike W9MDB

  From: "char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk" 
<char...@sucklingfamily.free-online.co.uk>
 To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
Hi Joe

Perhaps worth mentioning the change to the audio level setting to avoid
inadvertent clipping - folks now have to adjust soundcard level controls,
radio level  or external 'attenuator'.

Charlie

  > Hi all,
>
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that
> will be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>      ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>      Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>
>     -- Joe, K1JT
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
I've got 3 patches outstanding
#1 Menu controls working when controls are hidden + CTRL-E/Shift-E shortcuts 
for enabling/disabling Tx even/1st#2 Fix rigctld aborting on rigs without 
set_vfo (e.g. FT-891/991)#3 Fix QSO start times for double-click progression 
and autoseq modes
Here they are:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/d20ycgqtthckudk/rigctld_setvfo.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/frarvcjefhxn5d2/menu.patch?dl=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kr4lcc7rcg00j1i/qsotime.patch?dl=1

de Mike W9MDB



  From: Joe Taylor 
 To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 10:49 AM
 Subject: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1
   
Hi all,

I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that 
will be in WSJT-X v1.8.

1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
    ft8d.
5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
    Commander and OmniRig
8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface

Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?

    -- Joe, K1JT

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread charlie 
Hi Joe

Perhaps worth mentioning the change to the audio level setting to avoid
inadvertent clipping - folks now have to adjust soundcard level controls,
radio level  or external 'attenuator'.

Charlie

  > Hi all,
>
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that
> will be in WSJT-X v1.8.
>
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>  ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>  Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
>
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
>
>   -- Joe, K1JT
>
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Preparation for WSJT-X v1.8.0-rc1

2017-07-06 Thread Steven Franke 
The following come to mind:

- Phase and amplitude equalization for MSK144. (We/I need to fix the refspec 
part of this, and also write up some docs)
- SWL mode for MSK144 allows third-party monitoring Sh-message QSOs.
- Enhanced frequency management scheme (Bill should contribute the proper 
description).

I still think that it would be very useful if we could further automate the 
fmeasure/fmtave/fcal stuff so that it is as simple as pushing a button… But 
realistically, that may be something for when the snow is flying.

Steve, k9an


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:46 PM, Joe Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm compiling a list of important new features and other changes that will be 
> in WSJT-X v1.8.
> 
> 1.  New mode called FT8: QSOs 4 times faster than JT9, JT65
> 2.  New mode for Frequency Calibration
> 3.  Improved performance of decoders for JT65, QRA64, and MSK144
> 4.  New utility programs: msk144code, fmeasure, fmtave, fcal, ft8sim,
>ft8d.
> 5.  Options to minimize sizes of Main window and Wide Graph window.
> 6.  New default table of recommended operating frequencies
> 7.  Improved CAT control for many rigs, including operation through
>Commander and OmniRig
> 8.  Many minor bug fixes and tweaks to the user interface
> 
> Have I omitted anything that should be in this list?
> 
>   -- Joe, K1JT
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