[Xastir] Problem with xastir 1.9.8

2010-09-20 Thread Larry Shields
*I seem to be having a problem with xastir version 1.9.8, when it is 
running, I have noticed that in the terminal when I have selected from 
the maps what I want to use it says this:


magic: Improper image header
/home/larry/.xastir/map-cache/map_1284980743.gif
1 file could not be read

Does anyone know what the problem maybe...???

Thanks for any help on this...

Larry
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Re: [Xastir] Xastir Internet Server

2010-09-20 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sun, 19 Sep 2010, Tom wrote:

Ok, I figured it out. I'm using the noam.aprs2.net address but still no 
stations appear on my map.


I think there's a default range filter these days, so you'll need to
enter your location, your passcode, and make sure you have transmit
turned on to the internet before the internet server knows what the
center of the range is.  The default port on aprs2 servers is 14580.

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Re: [Xastir] snag trying to install shapelib via source onto mac os X 10.5

2010-09-20 Thread T Wegner

Jason, Curt, Tom

Thank you for your help with this problem. I have not heard back from  
any of you following my last post, so figured you must have thought I  
was on the right track, and plowed ahead.


Looking at your responses, I was able to patch up a solution, I  
believe. The instructions I followed left out a few other things as  
well, but since you mentioned this process was unnecessary, as  
shapelib is now incorporated into the Xastir download, I guess it's a  
moot point. Just for the record, however, the instructions after this  
snag were:


8)   sudo ranlib /usr/local/lib/libshp.a
9)   sudo mkdir /usr/local/include/libshp
10) sudo cp shapefil.h /usr/local/include/libshp

I needed to add
8.1) mkdir /usr/local/include

and a 9.1 step, changing the directory to the location I had the  
shapelib file so it could see the shapefil.h to copy it over.


No major headaches, but these instructions were specifically posted as  
being helpful for a Macintosh user who had never seen a command line  
before, and that was a bit off the mark, I'd say.


Thanks again.

Hoping you will be willing to help with my next problem, for which I  
will start a new thread.


73
Tom



On Sep 17, 2010, at 18:03, Tom Russo wrote:

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 05:43:27PM -0500, we recorded a bogon- 
computron collision of the kg4...@gmail.com flavor, containing:

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM, T Wegner tow...@tds.net wrote:
so I take it this means it's a file instead of a directory. Let me  
be

perfectly honest here . . . I have no idea what I'm doing. lol

Should I delete the lib file and make a lib directory here?


You'll have to, before lots of stuff will install correctly.


Is there something in that lib file of importance and I should not  
delete?


That's the $64k question.  I'd just rename it, then continue with the
build process (a make install will most likely create /usr/local/ 
lib

correctly for you).


From an earlier email, there was a description of how libshp.a was  
*copied*
to /usr/local/lib right before the attempted ranlib, but before /usr/ 
local/lib
was created.  I don't know what instructions Tom was following, but  
they're
not the instructions from Xastir's INSTALL document (which tell one  
to run
make lib_install in Shapelib's directory), but rather some  
platform-specific
instructions from elsewhere.  At any rate, libshp.a was simply  
cp'd into

place, not installed.

(BTW, Tom's note in which he shows the sudo log with a cp is:

http://www.mail-archive.com/xastir@lists.xastir.org/msg04153.html
)

Thus, there is a huge probability that the file /usr/local/lib
is nothing more than the contents of libshp.a.  Try running diff on  
the
/usr/local/lib file and the libshp.a that was supposed to have been  
installed
there.  I betcha dollars to donuts it simply prints nothing,  
indicating that
the files are identical.  Another clue would be that libshp.a in the  
shapelib

sources has the same size as /usr/local/lib.

Renaming /usr/local/lib and then doing an mkdir /usr/local/lib is a  
prudent
step that avoids deleting something permanently, but probably  
unnecessary
since it is almost certainly the case that /usr/local/lib (the plain  
file) is
just a copy of libshp.a.  Removing it and then doing an mkdir (with  
appropriate

chmod to get permissions right) will almost certainly be correct.

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Re: [Xastir] I finally got it! REALLY!

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Lewis
 Fixed the issue with the splitter cable.. it was really simple and it 
dawned on my that I had two null modems back to back which is why I 
never could connect with the splitter cable.. So far everything is 
working now and I can try working with xastir now and see if any 
stations pop up while driving.

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Re: [Xastir] libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:34:46PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the curt.w...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, T Wegner wrote:
 
  3)   ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
 
  Following step 3, I get this error message:
 
  checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... no
  configure: error: You will need to substantially rewrite libxtiff to
  build libgeotiff without libtiff
 
 You need to install tiff library and tiff headers (devel package).
 It's looking to compile a test program against libtiff and not
 finding the TIFFOpen function.
 
 I don't know how you find the right packages for a Mac.

Tom is attempting to install libgeotiff from source, so the recommendation
to install packages is off the mark.

The libgeotiff install process installs both the libraries and header files.

The issue is that configure is probably not looking in /usr/local/ for anything
unless you've told it to.

Please try this configure line:

./configure --prefix=/usr/local/ CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include 
LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib

On linux systems packages are installed into /usr instead of /usr/local, so
this is usually not necessary unless you've got hand-installed code.

There are some conditions that can force these CPP and LD flags to be
used without manually specifying them, but they're obviously not happening
in your case.  Among those conditions are running with GDAL, whose gdal-config
program will usually force /usr/local into your flags variables when it's
run by configure.  I think a few other *-config programs that Xastir's
configure script runs can do that, too, which is why those on Linux systems
rarely run into this.

As a BSD user, where all third-party packages are always installed into 
/usr/local instead of polluting the base-system directories /usr/lib and 
/usr/include, adding those CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS is almost second nature
when running configure.  

Give it a shot.  I bet you'll find that it satisfies in your case, too.

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[Xastir] Correction: OOops. Re: libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:14:29PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:34:46PM -0700, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the curt.w...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
  On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, T Wegner wrote:
  
   3)   ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
  
   Following step 3, I get this error message:
  
   checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... no
   configure: error: You will need to substantially rewrite libxtiff to
   build libgeotiff without libtiff
  
  You need to install tiff library and tiff headers (devel package).
  It's looking to compile a test program against libtiff and not
  finding the TIFFOpen function.
  
  I don't know how you find the right packages for a Mac.
 
 Tom is attempting to install libgeotiff from source, so the recommendation
 to install packages is off the mark.

Arrgh.  And here I was thinking that the configure Tom was reporting was
Xastir's, not libgeotiff's.  DUH.

Yes, you can't build libgeotiff if you don't have TIFF libraries installed
first.  Install those, and be sure that the install includes headers as well
as libraries (i.e., if it were linux, you'd install -devel or -dev packages
as well as the library package.  YMMV on Mac.  On BSD, packages don't 
separate out headers and libraries that way, you get 'em both in one 
package).


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Re: [Xastir] libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread T Wegner
presuming i found a source for libtiff, and was advised to use the  
following instructions for loading on to mac os x


tar xzf tiff-3.8.2.tar.gz
cd tiff-3.8.2
./configure
make
make install

do i want to make sure the files/program load/install in any one  
particular place, or will this be done automatically?


Thank you

73
Tom W


On Sep 20, 2010, at 15:17, Tom Russo wrote:

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 02:14:29PM -0600, we recorded a bogon- 
computron collision of the ru...@bogodyn.org flavor, containing:
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:34:46PM -0700, we recorded a bogon- 
computron collision of the curt.w...@gmail.com flavor, containing:

On Mon, 20 Sep 2010, T Wegner wrote:


3)   ./configure --prefix=/usr/local

Following step 3, I get this error message:

checking for TIFFOpen in -ltiff... no
configure: error: You will need to substantially rewrite libxtiff  
to

build libgeotiff without libtiff


You need to install tiff library and tiff headers (devel package).
It's looking to compile a test program against libtiff and not
finding the TIFFOpen function.

I don't know how you find the right packages for a Mac.


Tom is attempting to install libgeotiff from source, so the  
recommendation

to install packages is off the mark.


Arrgh.  And here I was thinking that the configure Tom was reporting  
was

Xastir's, not libgeotiff's.  DUH.

Yes, you can't build libgeotiff if you don't have TIFF libraries  
installed
first.  Install those, and be sure that the install includes headers  
as well
as libraries (i.e., if it were linux, you'd install -devel or -dev  
packages

as well as the library package.  YMMV on Mac.  On BSD, packages don't
separate out headers and libraries that way, you get 'em both in one
package).


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Re: [Xastir] libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 07:57:01PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the tow...@tds.net flavor, containing:
 presuming i found a source for libtiff, and was advised to use the  
 following instructions for loading on to mac os x

Where are you getting your instructions?  They seem to be fairly incomplete
and in at least some cases (where you were told to do manual copies and
ranlibs of libshp) they're not quite normal.  And it seems you're being told
to install just about every single package from sources without using any
package management (fink, macports, or whatever).  These do not seem to be
the best set of instructions to follow for a low-maintenance first-time install
onto a Mac.  The Xastir wiki has multiple sets of instructions for installing
onto Macs, and none suggest doing full, manual source installs of all these
packages.

But in general, the default behavior of configure is to install things
in /usr/local (that is, it is redundant to specify --prefix=/usr/local).
So doing configure/make/make install on libtiff is a normal approach to 
installing it from source.  But it's strange to need to do all those steps
on a Mac, unless you're avoiding MacPorts and Fink for some particular
reason.  And there's a recent binary version available that would probably
suit you better unless you really want to learn exactly what all these
steps are for.

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Re: [Xastir] libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread Jeremy McDermond
On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:28 PM, Tom Russo wrote:

 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 07:57:01PM -0500, we recorded a bogon-computron 
 collision of the tow...@tds.net flavor, containing:
 presuming i found a source for libtiff, and was advised to use the  
 following instructions for loading on to mac os x
 
 Where are you getting your instructions?  They seem to be fairly incomplete
 and in at least some cases (where you were told to do manual copies and
 ranlibs of libshp) they're not quite normal.  And it seems you're being told
 to install just about every single package from sources without using any
 package management (fink, macports, or whatever).  These do not seem to be
 the best set of instructions to follow for a low-maintenance first-time 
 install
 onto a Mac.  The Xastir wiki has multiple sets of instructions for installing
 onto Macs, and none suggest doing full, manual source installs of all these
 packages.

I would certainly recommend using MacPorts or Fink to get all of this stuff 
installed.  The only trick with that is going to be pointing Xastir to look in 
the right place for all of that stuff with LDFLAGS/CFLAGS/CPPFLAGS, etc.

 But in general, the default behavior of configure is to install things
 in /usr/local (that is, it is redundant to specify --prefix=/usr/local).
 So doing configure/make/make install on libtiff is a normal approach to 
 installing it from source.  But it's strange to need to do all those steps
 on a Mac, unless you're avoiding MacPorts and Fink for some particular
 reason.  And there's a recent binary version available that would probably
 suit you better unless you really want to learn exactly what all these
 steps are for.

I think his problem with my binary version is that it's for Intel only.  I 
believe I saw earlier in the thread that he's on PPC.

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[Xastir] Learning to use CVS with Ubuntu

2010-09-20 Thread Jerry
I have xastir 1.9.4-3.1 installed and running on a Windows 7 netbook using
virtualbox with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on the virtualbox side.  The Synaptic
Package Manager shows this older Xastir Version and when I use the Package 
Mark for Complete Removal,  xastir remains as a package but not installed
rather than disappearing from the list completely.  I believe I have to get
this version removed to the point it no longer shows in the Synaptic Package
Manager.  Only then do I feel I have a shot at updating xastir to version
1.9.9.
 
I ran through the CVS process and it appeared it runs
sudo/usr/src/bin/xastir/update-xastir okay for Version 1.9.9 but is not
overriding/updating the older version.  I would assume if the update was
happening, it would show the correct updated version in the Synaptic Package
Manager.  Here is the last parts of the update-xastir run (bootstrap.sh was
comleted and the below is the ./configure part of the run):
 
map_dos.c:1176: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1181: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1186: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1191: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1199: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1207: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1306: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1311: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1316: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1321: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1322: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1323: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1334: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_dos.c:1340: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
mv -f .deps/map_dos.Tpo .deps/map_dos.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_gdal.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_gdal.Tpo -c -o map_gdal.o
map_gdal.c
mv -f .deps/map_gdal.Tpo .deps/map_gdal.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_geo.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_geo.Tpo -c -o map_geo.o
map_geo.c
map_geo.c: In function 'draw_geo_image_map':
map_geo.c:2024: warning: implicit declaration of function
'DestroyImagePixels'
mv -f .deps/map_geo.Tpo .deps/map_geo.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_gnis.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_gnis.Tpo -c -o map_gnis.o
map_gnis.c
mv -f .deps/map_gnis.Tpo .deps/map_gnis.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_OSM.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_OSM.Tpo -c -o map_OSM.o
map_OSM.c
mv -f .deps/map_OSM.Tpo .deps/map_OSM.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_pop.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_pop.Tpo -c -o map_pop.o
map_pop.c
mv -f .deps/map_pop.Tpo .deps/map_pop.Po
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I..   -I/usr/include/GraphicsMagick
-I/usr/local/include -DXASTIR_DATA_BASE=\/usr/local/share/xastir\  -g -O2
-pipe -W -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused-parameter
-pthread -MT map_pdb.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/map_pdb.Tpo -c -o map_pdb.o
map_pdb.c
map_pdb.c: In function 'draw_palm_image_map':
map_pdb.c:224: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_pdb.c:235: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_pdb.c:252: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_pdb.c:346: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared with
attribute warn_unused_result
map_pdb.c:359: warning: ignoring return value of 'fread', declared 

Re: [Xastir] Learning to use CVS with Ubuntu

2010-09-20 Thread Bob Nielsen

On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Jerry wrote:

 I have xastir 1.9.4-3.1 installed and running on a Windows 7 netbook using
 virtualbox with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS on the virtualbox side.  The Synaptic
 Package Manager shows this older Xastir Version and when I use the Package 
 Mark for Complete Removal,  xastir remains as a package but not installed
 rather than disappearing from the list completely.  I believe I have to get
 this version removed to the point it no longer shows in the Synaptic Package
 Manager.  Only then do I feel I have a shot at updating xastir to version
 1.9.9.

Since a version of Xastir exists in the Ubuntu repository, it will always show 
up in Synaptic.  If you edit the update-xastir script to use checkinstall 
instead of make install the package manager will recognize your self-compiled 
version.

Or you could just let the package manager think that you don't have Xastir on 
your system.  Since the script installs it in /usr/local/bin, there should be 
no conflicts.


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Re: [Xastir] libtiff / geotiff install hiccup

2010-09-20 Thread T Wegner

Where are you getting your instructions?


Well, it's a long story, but I started here:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/Installation_Notes#Mac_OSX

looked into the VMWare option, decided against since it was a limited  
time deal, and didn't want to be locked out down the road - had no  
idea how long it might take me to get things going.


so next went here:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/HowTo:Mac_OSX

but when I saw this:

Some people have reported problems with Fink. I haven't encountered  
any yet so I still use it. Fink is a package manager that will keep  
you from having to build all the Xastir dependencies from source.


I also continue to use fink. I have had problems with FinkCommander  
(the GUI interface for Fink) but the core utilities continue to work  
fine. Dick.


I thought, 1) if people are having trouble with it, I want to avoid  
it, as I have no command line experience, and 2) as in the above  
example and others, it was unclear to me exactly who was saying what,  
and to whom . . . at times it sounded as though the author and Dick  
were 2 different people, at other times, not.


continuing down the list, I went here:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/Macports

which directed me to here:

http://n1ofz.connares.org/software/Xastir

which gives me a network problem message and no access

so I went here:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/MacOSXpackage

which was another dead end

next here:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/MacOSXsource

directing me to the same dead end

and then:

http://www.xastir.org/wiki/Notes:Mac_OSX

much of which I did not understand, and in the end, was once again  
referenced to that same dead end.


SO . . .

I did a search for Xastir and Mac and landed here:

http://www.wx9grb.org/xastir/mac.htm

and I thought, Eureka!  I'm familiar with the Packerland group (name  
credibility via Skywarn), and they seem to have the information from  
the site I was unable to access above in all those dead end instances,  
and reading through it, it seemed oriented toward operators such as  
myself, with little command line experience, and quite doable.


Following the sites instructions, I installed what I could using  
MacPorts. The instructions noted that shapelib and geotiff can not be  
installed with MacPorts, and provided the instructions I've been  
posting in my problem threads. This is where I've run into the  
troubles.


I did a search for libtiff and mac this evening, came up with a source  
(for a different program, but like this one, need to install it first  
- called it a dependency), and the instructions in the last post. I  
did that, watched as the screen scrolled by with lots of alpha- 
numerics, saw a number of no conditions and it ended with some  
warning/errors. When I tried to continue with the geotiff configure  
and make, I ended up with the same configure: error: You will need to  
substantially rewrite libxtiff to build libgeotiff without libtiff  
message. I moved the libtiff library out of the tiff-3.9.4 folder and  
into the libgeotiff folder thinking it did not know the where the  
libtiff library was, that did nothing, and I stopped.


I believe I have hit a brick wall in this direction. Would like the  
ability to use USGS geoTIFF's but unless someone can point me in a  
direction to solve the libtiff conundrum, I guess I could live without  
it, or wait until someone develops something to make this work  
seamlessly.


Re: other discussion about intel mac, it will be some time before I  
can afford a new macbook, and even then, I wouldn't dream of taking it  
into the field - only older computers for that for me.


Thanks for listening, the help you've given thus far, and any advice  
you may provide yet.


73
Tom



On Sep 20, 2010, at 20:28, Tom Russo wrote:

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 07:57:01PM -0500, we recorded a bogon- 
computron collision of the tow...@tds.net flavor, containing:

presuming i found a source for libtiff, and was advised to use the
following instructions for loading on to mac os x


Where are you getting your instructions?  They seem to be fairly  
incomplete
and in at least some cases (where you were told to do manual copies  
and
ranlibs of libshp) they're not quite normal.  And it seems you're  
being told
to install just about every single package from sources without  
using any
package management (fink, macports, or whatever).  These do not seem  
to be
the best set of instructions to follow for a low-maintenance first- 
time install
onto a Mac.  The Xastir wiki has multiple sets of instructions for  
installing
onto Macs, and none suggest doing full, manual source installs of  
all these

packages.

But in general, the default behavior of configure is to install  
things
in /usr/local (that is, it is redundant to specify --prefix=/usr/ 
local).
So doing configure/make/make install on libtiff is a normal approach  
to
installing it from source.  But it's strange to need to do all those  
steps

on a Mac, unless you're avoiding