Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-10 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Tom Russo wrote:


If you check the release notes (if
Curt figures out how to post them), there is quite a list of bugs that have
been fixed in the year and a half since 1.9.4 was released.


Posted the release notes for the 1.9.6 to 1.9.8 changes.

If you want to see changes prior to that, look in the ChangeLog
file inside the 1.9.8 archive.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-10 Thread Keith Kaiser
Maybe the last question on all this building

When can we expect v2.0 ?


On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:34 AM, Curt, WE7U wrote:

 On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Tom Russo wrote:
 
 If you check the release notes (if
 Curt figures out how to post them), there is quite a list of bugs that have
 been fixed in the year and a half since 1.9.4 was released.
 
 Posted the release notes for the 1.9.6 to 1.9.8 changes.
 
 If you want to see changes prior to that, look in the ChangeLog
 file inside the 1.9.8 archive.
 
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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 04:37:44PM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
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  Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
  Xastir binary they have.
 
 I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on Launchpad.net?
 
 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
 https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA

Who do you propose will be the person to create that PPA and maintain it?  Are
you volunteering?

To date, most Xastir developers don't maintain binaries for any platform (Curt
used to maintain an LSB binary for Linux, but I don't know if he does anymore).
It's hard enough to have the time to work on the code itself.  I don't see 
that changing in short order.

PPAs are a fine approach (I use the UbuntuGIS PPA for some machines, precisely 
because that group updates some packages that have bad versions in Ubuntu 
official repositories), but even they need maintainers who are going to keep
on top of the thing.  If one or more of the Xastir *users* of Ubuntu on this 
list were to volunteer to do this, it would be cool, so long as that person
were committed to keeping it up-to-date.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 02:52:19AM -0500, David Aitcheson wrote:
 I know what you mean.  All one has to do is look at the SchoolTool
 package and see how a LaunchPad-PPA works to a packages advantage.

Yeah, we moved Netrek to Launchpad and the greater community involvement
has been fantastic.  Well, at least we get each release packaged within
days instead of five years.

By the way, there is a PPA already for a recent version of Xastir, there
are Launchpad moderated bug reports for Xastir and they point it out.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xastir/+bug/492867

(As upstream for pptp, poptop (pptpd), and Netrek, I love digging in the
bug reports at the distribution level, they are such an inspirational
source of fixes.)

If you need something more recent, you could ask Kamal Mostafa to
package again.

If someone thinks there should be more frequent releases, and the
release engineer can't afford to do them, then anybody could volunteer
to release tarballs of CVS for packaging.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-06 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Sat, 6 Feb 2010, Tom Russo wrote:


To date, most Xastir developers don't maintain binaries for any platform (Curt
used to maintain an LSB binary for Linux, but I don't know if he does anymore).
It's hard enough to have the time to work on the code itself.  I don't see
that changing in short order.


Correct.  LSB and OpenSuSE RPM's.  I haven't updated either in a
while.  Luckily the OpenSuSE RPM's are being done by some ham
repository guys.  Sounds similar to what was just proposed for
Ubuntu.  It's a separate repository that you can add to OpenSuSE,
then you get a plethora of ham apps to choose from that aren't part
of normal OpenSuSE.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Chris
Yeah, thanks.  There are quite a few kissparms is one, ax25dmon I
think is another.  Just being a bit lazy and trying to avoid yet
another reason to finally get beyond hello_world in C.

JNOS2 has a neat mode called 'axui' which is very much like what I
want.  It does UI conversing and allows using digis in the path...it's
how I experimented with APRS msg format doing digi via WIDE3-1
directed to APRS or CQ alternately.  I actually found a human
listening to test with, unlike plain packet around here which has tons
of nodes, but almost no real people active for kbd to kbd type
conversing.

I just want to take the axui concept and have an aprs mode to auto
handle the msg syntax/formatting.  Not rocket science, but oddly
missing from the pile of 'native' linux console apps.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Curt, WE7U curt.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'd suggest scanning the linux-hams mailing list on vger, perhaps
 via a Google search, to see what apps you might find there that talk
 to the AX.25 kernel networking port or to a serial KISS TNC.  You
 might get lucky and find non-C code to do what you want that you can
 borrow from another open-source project.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:47:55AM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the curt.w...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Chris wrote:
 
  With a bunch of people running Ubuntu, why not just 'sudo apt-get
  install xastir' ?
 
  Is the version shipped with 9.10's repositories lacking some major features?
 
 Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
 Xastir binary they have.

Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  As I 
understand it, the package maintainer is neither an Xastir user nor a 
subscriber to any Xastir list.  In fact, I thought I read recently that the 
package maintainer was no longer actively maintaining it, and they were 
looking for a new one.

If you want point-and-click installation, you are at the mercy of the binary
maintainer.  If you want current code, you need to roll your own.

I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on 1.9.8 now.
It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it shortly before
the 1.9.8 release.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Tom Russo wrote:


Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  As I
understand it, the package maintainer is neither an Xastir user nor a
subscriber to any Xastir list.  In fact, I thought I read recently  
that the
package maintainer was no longer actively maintaining it, and they  
were

looking for a new one.

If you want point-and-click installation, you are at the mercy of  
the binary

maintainer.  If you want current code, you need to roll your own.

I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on  
1.9.8 now.
It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it  
shortly before

the 1.9.8 release.


The version of Xastir in the latest (9.10) Ubuntu is actually a  
recompilation of the version contained in the Debian testing  
repository (the released version of Debian has 1.9.2).  This is the  
case for many of the Ubuntu packages.  If 1.9.8 gets into Debian  
testing soon, it might make it into the next release of Ubuntu (10.4  
in April).


Bob, N7XY

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Curt, WE7U

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Bob Nielsen wrote:

The version of Xastir in the latest (9.10) Ubuntu is actually a recompilation 
of the version contained in the Debian testing repository (the released 
version of Debian has 1.9.2).


Wow, the 1.9.2 release happened Nov 6, 2007.

The one in Debian testing appears to be 1.9.4, which was released
Aug 15, 2008.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Lee Bengston
On 2/5/10, Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net wrote:

 On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Tom Russo wrote:

 Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  As I
 understand it, the package maintainer is neither an Xastir user nor a
 subscriber to any Xastir list.  In fact, I thought I read recently
 that the
 package maintainer was no longer actively maintaining it, and they
 were
 looking for a new one.

 If you want point-and-click installation, you are at the mercy of
 the binary
 maintainer.  If you want current code, you need to roll your own.

 I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on
 1.9.8 now.
 It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it
 shortly before
 the 1.9.8 release.

 The version of Xastir in the latest (9.10) Ubuntu is actually a
 recompilation of the version contained in the Debian testing
 repository (the released version of Debian has 1.9.2).  This is the
 case for many of the Ubuntu packages.  If 1.9.8 gets into Debian
 testing soon, it might make it into the next release of Ubuntu (10.4
 in April).

Based on user feedback, the Xastir binary package in Ubuntu 9.10
appears to be a very functional version.  That hasn't been the case
with the binaries provided with 2 or 3 Ubuntu versions prior to 9.10,
and the same problems encountered by users of earlier Ubuntu versions
have been seen in other Debian based distributions like Mepis.

While binaries are great for getting up and running quickly (when they
have been built properly by the package manager!), the beauty of
compiling Xastir from source is that when a developer submits a bug
fix or new feature and notifies the list, the user can update his
build of Xastir within minutes.

Lee - K5DAT
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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Rob Neece

The version I installed from the MEPIS repository was 1.9.2.

Curt, WE7U wrote:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Bob Nielsen wrote:

The version of Xastir in the latest (9.10) Ubuntu is actually a 
recompilation of the version contained in the Debian testing 
repository (the released version of Debian has 1.9.2).


Wow, the 1.9.2 release happened Nov 6, 2007.

The one in Debian testing appears to be 1.9.4, which was released
Aug 15, 2008.


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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Norm, VK3XCI

I don't mind being 0.0.2 versions behind... (Story of my life!).

It's stable and just works out of the box





73 de Norm, VK3XCI
Mildura, Australia
The Wintersun City
QF15bt.

Tom Russo wrote:

On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 09:47:55AM -0800, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of 
the curt.w...@gmail.com flavor, containing:

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010, Chris wrote:


With a bunch of people running Ubuntu, why not just 'sudo apt-get
install xastir' ?

Is the version shipped with 9.10's repositories lacking some major features?

Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
Xastir binary they have.


Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  As I 
understand it, the package maintainer is neither an Xastir user nor a 
subscriber to any Xastir list.  In fact, I thought I read recently that the 
package maintainer was no longer actively maintaining it, and they were 
looking for a new one.


If you want point-and-click installation, you are at the mercy of the binary
maintainer.  If you want current code, you need to roll your own.

I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on 1.9.8 now.
It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it shortly before
the 1.9.8 release.






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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 03:20:24PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the lee.bengs...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 On 2/5/10, Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net wrote:
 
  On Feb 5, 2010, at 10:04 AM, Tom Russo wrote:
 
  Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  As I
  understand it, the package maintainer is neither an Xastir user nor a
  subscriber to any Xastir list.  In fact, I thought I read recently
  that the
  package maintainer was no longer actively maintaining it, and they
  were
  looking for a new one.
 
  If you want point-and-click installation, you are at the mercy of
  the binary
  maintainer.  If you want current code, you need to roll your own.
 
  I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on
  1.9.8 now.
  It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it
  shortly before
  the 1.9.8 release.
 
  The version of Xastir in the latest (9.10) Ubuntu is actually a
  recompilation of the version contained in the Debian testing
  repository (the released version of Debian has 1.9.2).  This is the
  case for many of the Ubuntu packages.  If 1.9.8 gets into Debian
  testing soon, it might make it into the next release of Ubuntu (10.4
  in April).
 
 Based on user feedback, the Xastir binary package in Ubuntu 9.10
 appears to be a very functional version.  That hasn't been the case
 with the binaries provided with 2 or 3 Ubuntu versions prior to 9.10,
 and the same problems encountered by users of earlier Ubuntu versions
 have been seen in other Debian based distributions like Mepis.

And oddly, 1.9.4 had a serious bug related to server ports --- a pointer
was getting zeroed when it shouldn't have been, before a pipe was done
with it.  I'm surprised it isn't biting anyone.  Perhaps the folks that use
this binary don't use Xastir server ports for anything.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Russo
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 05:21:54PM -0600, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the kd5...@gmail.com flavor, containing:
 Kernel[Linux 2.6.26-6.slh.1-sidux-686 i686]
 xastir:
   Installed: 1.9.4-3.1
   Candidate: 1.9.4-3.1
   Version table:
  *** 1.9.4-3.1 0
 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 
 $ apt-get install xastir
 
 I am happy. What grand innovations have I missed, because I haven't
 figured out everything it will do to this point.

You have probably not missed many new features.  But you're missing quite
a few bug fixes.  

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 08:54:59AM +1100, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the vk...@exemail.com.au flavor, containing:
 !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
 html

Please don't post HTML email to the Xastir mailing list.  It is hard to read
in non-web mail readers.

   pre wrap=With a bunch of people running Ubuntu, why not just 'sudo 
 apt-get
 install xastir' ?
 
 Is the version shipped with 9.10's repositories lacking some major features?
   /pre
 /blockquote
 pre wrap=Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what 
 version of
 Xastir binary they have.
 /pre
   /blockquote
   pre wrap=!
 Because the Ubuntu repositories routinely stick at old versions.  
 
[...]
 I believe the last time I checked, it was still 1.9.4.  We're on 1.9.8 now.
 It is possible that they are at 1.9.6 -- if so, they bumped it shortly before
 the 1.9.8 release.
 
   /pre
 /blockquote
 The latest version of xastir in 'buntu is 1.9.4-3build1br
 br
 This url give a list of dependencies for the package in 'buntu 9.10br
 a class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
 href=https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xastir;https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/xastir/abr
 br
 The 9.10 packages list at
 a class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
 href=http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/hamradio/xastir;http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/hamradio/xastir/a
  reveals the same
 information.br
 br
 There was a recent issue with xastir in 'buntu in that raster maps
 displayed as black tiles. Apart from installing the xastir package on a
 clean Kubuntu 9.10 installation to confirm the problem, I can make no
 other comment. I don't know if that issue has been resolved, nor do I
 know if it applied to 9.04, 8.10 or 8.04, the only 'buntu releases I've
 used. My previous experience with the xastir deb package was many years
 ago under Debian v3.0 (or was it v2.1) where it worked just fine.br

The bug related to GraphicsMagick and 8-bit Quantums has indeed been fixed.  It
was fixed between 1.9.6 and 1.9.8.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Norm, VK3XCI

Interesting Tom,

I do use the server ports to connect other clients. UI-view from my office work 
box and xastir from the eeepc 701 in the bedroom (sad isn't it?)


The question is how does the bug manifest? I don't recall ever having any 
problems. Lucky maybe?






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Tom Russo wrote:
...Much snipped out.


And oddly, 1.9.4 had a serious bug related to server ports --- a pointer
was getting zeroed when it shouldn't have been, before a pipe was done
with it.  I'm surprised it isn't biting anyone.  Perhaps the folks that use
this binary don't use Xastir server ports for anything.






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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Hayward
 Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
 Xastir binary they have.

I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on Launchpad.net?

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA

This would allow the Xastir team to publish updated packages more
often than the Ubuntu package maintainers. Users would just need to
add the line for this custom repository to their sources.list (can be
done completely from the GUI, System - Administration - Software
Sources). Then apt-get install xastir would install the latest xastir
from this custom repo, along with dependencies. Updates could be done
with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 04:37:44PM -0800, Tom Hayward wrote:
 I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on
 Launchpad.net?

What, and do their job for them, and as a result cause Xastir to run
perfectly well on every Ubuntu system?  Surely we want it to be used by
people with skill alone!  ;-)

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread David Aitcheson
Alright, who turned on the echobox?

This is EXACTLY what I have been driving at but getting ignored.

Dave - KB3EFS

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Tom Hayward esa...@gmail.com wrote:

  Can't answer that as I don't run Ubuntu nor know what version of
  Xastir binary they have.

 I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on Launchpad.net?

 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
 https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA

 This would allow the Xastir team to publish updated packages more
 often than the Ubuntu package maintainers. Users would just need to
 add the line for this custom repository to their sources.list (can be
 done completely from the GUI, System - Administration - Software
 Sources). Then apt-get install xastir would install the latest xastir
 from this custom repo, along with dependencies. Updates could be done
 with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade.

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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread Tom Russo
On Sat, Feb 06, 2010 at 01:38:15PM +1100, we recorded a bogon-computron 
collision of the vk3...@aanet.com.au flavor, containing:
 Interesting Tom,
 
 I do use the server ports to connect other clients. UI-view from my office 
 work 
 box and xastir from the eeepc 701 in the bedroom (sad isn't it?)
 
 The question is how does the bug manifest? I don't recall ever having any 
 problems. Lucky maybe?

I just dug through my emails from the period, and am mistaken that the error
caused segfaults.  The error is that after closing the connection of a client
to an Xastir server port, Xastir was not accepting reconnects and was spewing
error messages.  You can find a description of it in the list archives from
September 2008, under the subject Problem with Xastir Server Ports.  The 
bug in question was fixed first by commit 1.60 to x_spider.c on 
22 September 2008 and then definitively by commit 1.61 on 26 September 2008.  
The commit that introduced the bug was revision 1.59 on 11 June 2008.  The 
revision of x_spider.c that's in Xastir 1.9.4 is revision 1.59.

The point is that we had a release in August of 2008 that had a bug that 
was not detected for two months prior to release.  It was reported by a user
and promptly fixed approximately one month after the release, and users of CVS 
got it immediately.  Users of release tarballs didn't get the fix until 1.9.6 
was released in October 2009, and users of Ubuntu's package still have it.
 
As for why you never noticed... could be just lucky.  Do you by any chance run 
Xastir by double-clicking an icon instead of by running it in a terminal 
window?  The error message wouldn't show up if you were.  Do you ever have 
trouble reconnecting a client to Xastir if you disconnect it?

 Tom Russo wrote:
 ...Much snipped out.
 
  And oddly, 1.9.4 had a serious bug related to server ports --- a pointer
  was getting zeroed when it shouldn't have been, before a pipe was done
  with it.  I'm surprised it isn't biting anyone.  Perhaps the folks that use
  this binary don't use Xastir server ports for anything.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  No virus found in this incoming message.
  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
  Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2670 - Release Date: 02/06/10 
  06:35:00
  
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Re: [Xastir] So, a question on all this building...

2010-02-05 Thread David Aitcheson
James and Tom,

I know what you mean.  All one has to do is look at the SchoolTool package
and see how a LaunchPad-PPA works to a packages advantage.

In LESS THAN TWO or THREE YEARS SchoolTool has gone from nothing to full
recognition by not only ubuntu but is also getting noticed by the rest of
the Debian community.

Dave - KB3EFS


On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 12:15 AM, James Cameron vk2...@wia.org.au wrote:

 On Fri, Feb 05, 2010 at 04:37:44PM -0800, Tom Hayward wrote:
  I've got an idea... What about creating a PPA for Xastir on
  Launchpad.net?

 What, and do their job for them, and as a result cause Xastir to run
 perfectly well on every Ubuntu system?  Surely we want it to be used by
 people with skill alone!  ;-)

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