[xmail] Re: SMTP filter thoughts

2004-04-29 Thread Sönke Ruempler
 If your filter script parses the F-PROT virus report and finds an
 embedded virus, it can modify the xmail message header simply and not
 propagate the virus further so no SA daemon gets bothered later.

The thingy is that I want to reject MSGs at SMTP level, but that must be
(REAL-)user-based because I have to send the -u switch with the real
recipient (the mailbox) to spamc. Furthermore I want that for virus
filtering and because we habe customers with and without virus protection i
need that userbased, too.

But FProt sounds nice, i'll try that.


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[xmail] Re: Is there a limit to the length of a response stri ng

2004-04-29 Thread CLEMENT Francis


 -Message d'origine-
 De : Tracy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoy=E9 : jeudi 29 avril 2004 01:24
 =C0 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Objet : [xmail] Re: Is there a limit to the length of a=20
 response string=20
=20
=20
 At 18:58 4/28/2004, you wrote:
   Is there a limit to the number of characters that can be=20
 sent to the
   connected SMTP client using SMTPSendError? In glancing=20
 through it, I can't
   see a limit, but I'm getting session hangs with some of=20
 my error messages
   (which are, admittedly, fairly long)...
 
 512
=20
 So, if I add a local routine that will convert \n to CRLF,=20
 the following=20
 string would be within the limits?
=20
 450-Your mail has been blocked from my server.\n450-Your=20
 mail was blocked=20
 because the IP address of your server\n450-has been found in=20
 the headers of=20
 unacceptable mail (spam)\n450-received here. Examples of=20
 unacceptable mail=20
 would be:\n450-viruses, bounces to forged senders, unsolicited bulk=20
 email,\n450-or any mail which generates complaints from my=20
 users.\n450-For=20
 questions, or to remove my local block, please visit\n450=20
 http://www.arisiasoft.com/Mailblock/blocked.aspx;
=20


Why not simply send a :

450 - Mail blocked. See =
http://www.arisiasoft.com/Mailblock/blocked.aspx
for reasons.

Short, is not it ?

I don't think placing complete description of possible errors at smtp =
level
plus a link (that will certainly say the same) help more than sending a
short desc with a link...


 The reason I ask is because I'm logging some session data=20
 (including the=20
 string sent back to the client), and it appears to be getting=20
 truncated=20
 about 1/2 way through. Of course, this could be an artifact=20
 of the logging=20
 I'm using - it may be getting truncated when logging rather=20
 than when sent=20
 to the client. =20
=20

For tracking purpose you can add an 'internal' code in the message as :

450 - (450-1) Mail blocked. See
http://www.arisiasoft.com/Mailblock/blocked.aspx for reasons.
450 - (450-2) Virus found. See
http://www.arisiasoft.com/Mailblock/blocked.aspx for reasons.
..
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
|Python and Java both work very well on both platforms.

I don't have experience with Python. But I *have* experience with Java. Bad.

Multi-platformness is very nice for academic games or marketing buzz, but
not for real deployment. 

Please, write applications in way what is native for the system they would
run on. Do not experiment with Java and so on.

-- Altair

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[xmail] Re: SMTP filter thoughts

2004-04-29 Thread Mikhail
Norman virus control (www.norman.com) is very good
and
it was possible to download Linux demo version for
free
(not shure that it is yet available).

Norman virus control understand @@FILE and mail
format,
returns exit codes we need for XMail, unpack any
kind of
archives attached to the mail zip, rar, tar.gz,
cab, arj
everything. It has pretty simple command line
syntax.
It's very good solution.
Here is the short description how I have installed
it
http://smartpost.sourceforge.net/howto.php#filters

Mikhail


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Date : Tuesday, 27 April, 2004 07:00 PM
Sub  : [xmail] Re: SMTP filter thoughts

 At 17.49 27/04/04 +0200, you wrote:  I don't
want a
script that extracts the mail and then runs the
command line scanner on the the directory. or do
you
know command line scanners that can read mail
formats
and extract them?  F-PROT for DOS - and, I
think, all
other versions - can read the @@FILE as  is and
do all
decoding/unzipping for itself. (The DOS version
needs be
 passed the short path without the initial
'//?/',
obviously the Un*x/Win32  versions don't). 
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Wim Verveen
Precisely. No java please!

..NET is ok for me. I don't mind perl for a reporting application.
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 I don't have experience with Python. But I *have* experience=20
 with Java. Bad.
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 Multi-platformness is very nice for academic games or=20
 marketing buzz, but not for real deployment.=20
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[xmail] Re: Is there a limit to the length of a response stri ng

2004-04-29 Thread Tracy
At 02:48 4/29/2004, you wrote:
Why not simply send a :

450 - Mail blocked. See =
http://www.arisiasoft.com/Mailblock/blocked.aspx
for reasons.

Short, is not it ?

For four reasons:

1) These messages are intended to be read by the individual message 
senders, who certainly have no realistic understanding of short cryptic 
messages.

2) It is not valid to assume that everyone who sends email to a domain is 
also capable (or inclined) to visit a web site to get more information 
about a particular message.

3) The web site referenced does not explain particular errors - it gives a 
general discussion about my mail blocking policies and includes a form to 
request that a particular IP address (or block of IP addresses) be exempt 
from further blocking (ie. whitelisted).

4) Multiline responses break a lot of spamware out there.

Of course, for *me*, number 4 is the real reason. However, for my users, 
the others are important. When someone calls them on the phone and says I 
tried to send you email but got this error and reads it off to them, my 
user will at least have some idea of what happened. I may (probably will) 
still get a call about it, but at least I'll have some specific information 
to use as a starting point, without having to search logs and decipher 
error messages there.

And, of course, there's also the perennial I'm longwinded argument, too...:) 

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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
I am a die hard C++ programmer :) But this project would take a lot more
time and require a large number of extra libraries if I were to use C++.
Think XML, Database access, possible UI.  All of this is part of the
..NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal?  Most
windows machines already have it.

Shawn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mikhail
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

Hi,
Oh. C#...
Let's see. If I want to use your reports system, I need CLI-Mono machine
(Common Language Infrastructure) be installed on my box. This is not good
dependency.
As far
as I know modern linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake,
RedHat) do not include this machine. 

I could be great to use just C++ instead C#, users do not need any machine
in this case to run your application.
You can use C++ Qt library. Like for example Doxygen project does.
Or probably Gtk+ is good enough.

Another solution is java. Java machine is stable, and it is shipped with all
OSes, even win has java.

And one question.
Will your application be commercial or free?

Mikhail



- Original Message -
From : Shawn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date : Wednesday, 28 April, 2004 05:00 PM Sub  : [xmail] Re: Xmail reports
-- anyone have a wish list?

 I am leaning towards .NET (and maybe Mono) for
the
language.  I don't think I will use any database, that way it will not have
any dependencies.  What do you main by user and domain alias support? Tell
me more. 
And yes the report engine will be released as open
source.   Also, for a front end, it could be done
in
anything (Perl, ASP, ASP.NET) because the actual
report
engine will be something that is scheduled or run with parameters and it
will output the result to a file.  Shawn-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Fred Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a
wish list?  Hi,  Glad someone is thinking for writing a decent log
analyzer!
Here is what I think should be in your project.

-Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your software
under the GPL? -Written in PHP or Perl? No ASP please hehe -User and domain
alias support?  Will all these features your software gonna rox. 
2cents  -Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: 28
avril, 2004 08:35 To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish
list?  Howdy,  I am starting to create a reporting system for the XMail
log files (I
have been needing something for a while), so I
thought
I would see if anyone had their own wish list. 
Right
now, here is what I am thinking:  Features:  -
Automatic report generation on a scheduled time
frame 
- Multiple output type (xml, html, etc)-
Graphs 
Reports (all will have a date range filter)-
Total
summary- Total summary by log type- Summary
by
day/hour   - Summary by incoming domain/user/ip
address- Summary by outgoing domain/user/ip
address- Top ten incoming domains/user/ip
address-
Top ten outgoing domains/user/ip address   - Top
ten
blocked domains/users/ip address (CustomMapsList)

Anyone have any thoughts and/or suggestions? 
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Mark Mealman
Installing Mono on Gentoo Linux takes one command: emerge mono. They
also have Fedora, Red Hat, Debian and SUSE packages on their site. So
while no, Mono doesn't come standard on Linux boxes, I don't think it's
that big of a deal.
-Mark


On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 I am a die hard C++ programmer :) But this project would take a lot more
 time and require a large number of extra libraries if I were to use C++.
 Think XML, Database access, possible UI.  All of this is part of the
 ...NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal?  Most
 windows machines already have it.
 
 Shawn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mikhail
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?
 
 Hi,
 Oh. C#...
 Let's see. If I want to use your reports system, I need CLI-Mono machine
 (Common Language Infrastructure) be installed on my box. This is not good
 dependency.
 As far
 as I know modern linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake,
 RedHat) do not include this machine. 
 
 I could be great to use just C++ instead C#, users do not need any machine
 in this case to run your application.
 You can use C++ Qt library. Like for example Doxygen project does.
 Or probably Gtk+ is good enough.
 
 Another solution is java. Java machine is stable, and it is shipped with all
 OSes, even win has java.
 
 And one question.
 Will your application be commercial or free?
 
 Mikhail
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From : Shawn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date : Wednesday, 28 April, 2004 05:00 PM Sub  : [xmail] Re: Xmail reports
 -- anyone have a wish list?
 
  I am leaning towards .NET (and maybe Mono) for
 the
 language.  I don't think I will use any database, that way it will not have
 any dependencies.  What do you main by user and domain alias support? Tell
 me more. 
 And yes the report engine will be released as open
 source.   Also, for a front end, it could be done
 in
 anything (Perl, ASP, ASP.NET) because the actual
 report
 engine will be something that is scheduled or run with parameters and it
 will output the result to a file.  Shawn-Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Fred Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a
 wish list?  Hi,  Glad someone is thinking for writing a decent log
 analyzer!
 Here is what I think should be in your project.
 
 -Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your software
 under the GPL? -Written in PHP or Perl? No ASP please hehe -User and domain
 alias support?  Will all these features your software gonna rox. 
 2cents  -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson Sent: 28
 avril, 2004 08:35 To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish
 list?  Howdy,  I am starting to create a reporting system for the XMail
 log files (I
 have been needing something for a while), so I
 thought
 I would see if anyone had their own wish list. 
 Right
 now, here is what I am thinking:  Features:-
 Automatic report generation on a scheduled time
 frame 
 - Multiple output type (xml, html, etc)  -
 Graphs 
 Reports (all will have a date range filter)  -
 Total
 summary  - Total summary by log type- Summary
 by
 day/hour - Summary by incoming domain/user/ip
 address  - Summary by outgoing domain/user/ip
 address  - Top ten incoming domains/user/ip
 address  -
 Top ten outgoing domains/user/ip address - Top
 ten
 blocked domains/users/ip address (CustomMapsList)
 
 Anyone have any thoughts and/or suggestions? 
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Charles Frolick
There is also DotGNU at http://www.dotgnu.org, which looks real good. I have
not seen or heard a hard line comparison though.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mark Mealman
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:04 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

Installing Mono on Gentoo Linux takes one command: emerge mono. They also
have Fedora, Red Hat, Debian and SUSE packages on their site. So while no,
Mono doesn't come standard on Linux boxes, I don't think it's that big of a
deal.
-Mark


On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 I am a die hard C++ programmer :) But this project would take a lot 
 more time and require a large number of extra libraries if I were to use
C++.
 Think XML, Database access, possible UI.  All of this is part of the 
 ...NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal?  
 Most windows machines already have it.
 
 Shawn
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikhail
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?
 
 Hi,
 Oh. C#...
 Let's see. If I want to use your reports system, I need CLI-Mono 
 machine (Common Language Infrastructure) be installed on my box. This 
 is not good dependency.
 As far
 as I know modern linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake,
 RedHat) do not include this machine. 
 
 I could be great to use just C++ instead C#, users do not need any 
 machine in this case to run your application.
 You can use C++ Qt library. Like for example Doxygen project does.
 Or probably Gtk+ is good enough.
 
 Another solution is java. Java machine is stable, and it is shipped 
 with all OSes, even win has java.
 
 And one question.
 Will your application be commercial or free?
 
 Mikhail
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From : Shawn Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To   : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date : Wednesday, 28 April, 2004 05:00 PM Sub  : [xmail] Re: Xmail 
 reports
 -- anyone have a wish list?
 
  I am leaning towards .NET (and maybe Mono) for
 the
 language.  I don't think I will use any database, that way it will 
 not have any dependencies.  What do you main by user and domain alias 
 support? Tell me more.
 And yes the report engine will be released as open
 source.   Also, for a front end, it could be done
 in
 anything (Perl, ASP, ASP.NET) because the actual
 report
 engine will be something that is scheduled or run with parameters and 
 it will output the result to a file.  Shawn-Original 
 Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Fred Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 9:59 AM To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone 
 have a wish list?  Hi,  Glad someone is thinking for writing a 
 decent log analyzer!
 Here is what I think should be in your project.
 
 -Storing the data in a MySQL database? -Will you release your 
 software under the GPL? -Written in PHP or Perl? No ASP please hehe 
 -User and domain alias support?  Will all these features your 
 software gonna rox. 
 2cents  -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn Anderson 
 Sent: 28 avril, 2004 08:35 To:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xmail] Xmail reports -- anyone have a 
 wish list?  Howdy,  I am starting to create a reporting system for 
 the XMail log files (I
 have been needing something for a while), so I
 thought
 I would see if anyone had their own wish list. 
 Right
 now, here is what I am thinking:  Features:-
 Automatic report generation on a scheduled time
 frame 
 - Multiple output type (xml, html, etc)  -
 Graphs 
 Reports (all will have a date range filter)  -
 Total
 summary  - Total summary by log type- Summary
 by
 day/hour - Summary by incoming domain/user/ip
 address  - Summary by outgoing domain/user/ip
 address  - Top ten incoming domains/user/ip
 address  -
 Top ten outgoing domains/user/ip address - Top
 ten
 blocked domains/users/ip address (CustomMapsList)
 
 Anyone have any thoughts and/or suggestions? 
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread William Denniss
 On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote:
  ...NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a deal?  Most
  windows machines already have it.

most developer  new machines at any rate.  If you were to count all
windows machines out there, I'd be very surprised to learn that most did
have .net installed.

Will.

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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Beau E. Cox
On Thursday 29 April 2004 05:26 am, Shawn Anderson wrote:
 With how hard MS is pushing it out via there Update Services :)  Who knows,
 but it sure makes development faster..


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of William Denniss
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:12 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

  On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote:
   ...NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a
   deal?  Most windows machines already have it.

 most developer  new machines at any rate.  If you were to count all
 windows machines out there, I'd be very surprised to learn that most did
 have .net installed.

 Will.

Hi -

So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?

I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?

Aloha = Beau;

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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
I am curious, why do you say it is a Windows only solution?  Mono and GnuDot
are very well along in development and very stable.  They run on almost as
many platforms as Perl.

And while I do know Perl and have written many many applications in it, I am
not really fond of the syntax, the debugger, or the available IDEs for it :)
Plus, while it is extremely efficient in handling string and text data, it
is not very memory friendly if you know what I mean :)

Shawn 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Beau E. Cox
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

On Thursday 29 April 2004 05:26 am, Shawn Anderson wrote:
 With how hard MS is pushing it out via there Update Services :)  Who 
 knows, but it sure makes development faster..


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Denniss
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:12 AM
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 Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

  On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 09:35, Shawn Anderson wrote:
   ...NET/Mono core library.  Is installing .NET/CLI that big of a 
   deal?  Most windows machines already have it.

 most developer  new machines at any rate.  If you were to count all 
 windows machines out there, I'd be very surprised to learn that most 
 did have .net installed.

 Will.

Hi -

So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?

I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place, via CPAN,
to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules for almost any
need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?

Aloha = Beau;

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[xmail] XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Toby Reiter
Beau E. Cox wrote:

So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?

I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?

Beau, I don't think Shawn is exactly saying that, although I too am 
somewhat disappointed when I see someone building something for XMail 
in ASP/.Net.  I'm pretty much 95% reluctant to install technologies 
on a *nix box to run MS proprietary code -- partially because of 
security concerns, partly because of philosophical concerns, but 
mostly because if I was going to use an MS-based solution, I would 
use an MS-based operating system.

There are people who run a Windows 2003 box as just an XMail server 
-- to me that doesn't make sense, since with the same hardware, you 
could load Redhat from disk, install Xmail from RPMs and have just 
about the same ease of install and management as Windows 2003 (and, 
if I remember correctly there's a significant performance boost when 
using XMail on Linux).  On the other hand, some people just like 
Windows.  And there are Xmail utilities which are purely *nix based, 
and can't run at all on Windows -- so I guess it's not overly unfair 
when the tables are turned.

In this case, it is possible to run .Net on a *nix box using Mono. 
For me, it's probably not worth it. I can understand why Shawn would 
want to develop using languages that he's comfortable with and which 
fits his solution -- quite frankly, I wouldn't develop Perl 
applications for deploying on a Windows box for precisely the same 
reasons I avoid .Net on *nix. Of course, I also avoid Windows too.

Just my $0.02,
Toby

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[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Charles Frolick
You will find people that would argue that Linux is slower, less stable, and
less secure than the BSD's, and in my experiences, it is, but more apps
support Linux natively than BSD, and most hosting control panels only
support certain versions of Linux (RedHat), so the prejudice is no different
than Ford vs. Chevy, American Car vs. Japanese Car, what do you prefer?  The
reason projects like Mono and DotGnu exist is because MS intended it to be a
competitive open standard to Java, which has been proven to be a closed Sun
licensed product in court against MS.

Thanks,
Chuck Frolick
ArgoLink.net 

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wish list?)

Beau, I don't think Shawn is exactly saying that, although I too am somewhat
disappointed when I see someone building something for XMail in ASP/.Net.
I'm pretty much 95% reluctant to install technologies on a *nix box to run
MS proprietary code -- partially because of security concerns, partly
because of philosophical concerns, but mostly because if I was going to use
an MS-based solution, I would use an MS-based operating system.

There are people who run a Windows 2003 box as just an XMail server
-- to me that doesn't make sense, since with the same hardware, you could
load Redhat from disk, install Xmail from RPMs and have just about the same
ease of install and management as Windows 2003 (and, if I remember correctly
there's a significant performance boost when using XMail on Linux).  On the
other hand, some people just like Windows.  And there are Xmail utilities
which are purely *nix based, and can't run at all on Windows -- so I guess
it's not overly unfair when the tables are turned.

In this case, it is possible to run .Net on a *nix box using Mono. 
For me, it's probably not worth it. I can understand why Shawn would want to
develop using languages that he's comfortable with and which fits his
solution -- quite frankly, I wouldn't develop Perl applications for
deploying on a Windows box for precisely the same reasons I avoid .Net on
*nix. Of course, I also avoid Windows too.

Just my $0.02,
Toby

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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Beau E. Cox wrote:

 So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
 Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?
 
 I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
 via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
 for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
 Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?

Cannot agree more. For things like reports and more in general
short-lived (in the for how long they run point of view) 
non-performance-critical applications, Perl is what I'd choose. Perl is 
what I'd call fashion-free. It's there by a long time and it has no plans 
to go anywhere. Eagerly waiting the next Q%% language revolution driven by 
companies that *have* to sell new stuff to grow their guts ...



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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Mark Mealman
Some people just don't like working with Perl and I don't blame them,
it's an arcane language if you're coming from a C/C++ background. I used
to work a lot with Perl but moved onto Python because it's much easier
to work with, though even it has its own unique syntax.
I hate MS as much as the next guy, heck I'm writing this email via
Evolution under Linux and my job is a Linux sys admin, but I don't see
the big deal of the app being written in C# so long as it's checked out
against Mono for compatibility. 

-Mark

On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 12:54, Davide Libenzi wrote:

 On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Beau E. Cox wrote:
 
  So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
  Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?
  
  I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
  via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
  for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
  Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?
 
 Cannot agree more. For things like reports and more in general
 short-lived (in the for how long they run point of view) 
 non-performance-critical applications, Perl is what I'd choose. Perl is 
 what I'd call fashion-free. It's there by a long time and it has no plans 
 to go anywhere. Eagerly waiting the next Q%% language revolution driven by 
 companies that *have* to sell new stuff to grow their guts ...
 
 
 
 - Davide
 
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[xmail] Script to shut down then start xmail

2004-04-29 Thread Ken Larkman
Does anyone have a script I can run from a crontab on FreeBSD that will
stop Xmail then start it after the service has stopped?
Thanks,

- ken


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[xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail

2004-04-29 Thread Fred
Hi,

Make sure XMAIL_ROOT and path to SH is valid

#!/bin/sh
#
XMAIL_ROOT=/apps/MailRoot
echo Killing XMail
kill `ps -aux | grep XMail | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'`
wait
echo Starting XMail
$XMAIL_ROOT/bin/xmail start
exit 0


Hope this helps

Fred

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Does anyone have a script I can run from a crontab on FreeBSD that will
stop Xmail then start it after the service has stopped?
Thanks,

- ken


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[xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail

2004-04-29 Thread Ken Larkman
Thanks, Fred!

That looks like it does exactly what I need.

Thanks,

- Ken

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Hi,

Make sure XMAIL_ROOT and path to SH is valid

#!/bin/sh
#
XMAIL_ROOT=/apps/MailRoot
echo Killing XMail
kill `ps -aux | grep XMail | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'`
wait
echo Starting XMail
$XMAIL_ROOT/bin/xmail start
exit 0


Hope this helps

Fred

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Subject: [xmail] Script to shut down then start xmail

Does anyone have a script I can run from a crontab on FreeBSD that will
stop Xmail then start it after the service has stopped?
Thanks,

- ken


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[xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail

2004-04-29 Thread Fred

My Pleasure Ken, but make sure the wait command is on a new line, exit 0
should be on a new line too. 

fred

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Thanks, Fred!

That looks like it does exactly what I need.

Thanks,

- Ken

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Hi,

Make sure XMAIL_ROOT and path to SH is valid

#!/bin/sh
#
XMAIL_ROOT=/apps/MailRoot
echo Killing XMail
kill `ps -aux | grep XMail | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'`
wait
echo Starting XMail
$XMAIL_ROOT/bin/xmail start
exit 0


Hope this helps

Fred

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Subject: [xmail] Script to shut down then start xmail

Does anyone have a script I can run from a crontab on FreeBSD that will
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Thanks,

- ken


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[xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail

2004-04-29 Thread Fred

Sorry, 

make sure the wait command is on a new line, echo Starting XMail
should be on a new line too.

fred

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My Pleasure Ken, but make sure the wait command is on a new line, exit 0
should be on a new line too. 

fred

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Sent: 29 avril, 2004 15:23
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Subject: [xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail

Thanks, Fred!

That looks like it does exactly what I need.

Thanks,

- Ken

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Subject: [xmail] Re: Script to shut down then start xmail


Hi,

Make sure XMAIL_ROOT and path to SH is valid

#!/bin/sh
#
XMAIL_ROOT=/apps/MailRoot
echo Killing XMail
kill `ps -aux | grep XMail | grep -v grep | awk '{print $2}'`
wait
echo Starting XMail
$XMAIL_ROOT/bin/xmail start
exit 0


Hope this helps

Fred

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Subject: [xmail] Script to shut down then start xmail

Does anyone have a script I can run from a crontab on FreeBSD that will
stop Xmail then start it after the service has stopped?
Thanks,

- ken


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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
I agree it's a big task to write a portable and reliable report app
for xmail logs.

To satisfy everyone I would just use C and mysql.

I started something similar on windows a few years ago because
my company had to calculate bandwidth usage etc ... ,
you can find it here www.henry.it/xmail/myxsats.htm
It isn't complete, nor perfect, but it fits my needs.

I see many of you are interested, maybe it would
be nice to join together and start a project that
 seems really needed by our community ;)

Ciao
Dario


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From: Mark Mealman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:13 PM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?


 Some people just don't like working with Perl and I don't blame them,
 it's an arcane language if you're coming from a C/C++ background. I used
 to work a lot with Perl but moved onto Python because it's much easier
 to work with, though even it has its own unique syntax.
 I hate MS as much as the next guy, heck I'm writing this email via
 Evolution under Linux and my job is a Linux sys admin, but I don't see
 the big deal of the app being written in C# so long as it's checked out
 against Mono for compatibility.

 -Mark

 On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 12:54, Davide Libenzi wrote:

  On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Beau E. Cox wrote:
 
   So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
   Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?
  
   I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
   via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
   for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
   Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?
 
  Cannot agree more. For things like reports and more in general
  short-lived (in the for how long they run point of view)
  non-performance-critical applications, Perl is what I'd choose. Perl is
  what I'd call fashion-free. It's there by a long time and it has no
plans
  to go anywhere. Eagerly waiting the next Q%% language revolution driven
by
  companies that *have* to sell new stuff to grow their guts ...
 
 
 
  - Davide
 
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[xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?

2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
.. just realized, wrong link.
http://www.henry.it/xmail/myxstats.htm

Ciao
Dario

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Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:37 PM
Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?


 I agree it's a big task to write a portable and reliable report app
 for xmail logs.

 To satisfy everyone I would just use C and mysql.

 I started something similar on windows a few years ago because
 my company had to calculate bandwidth usage etc ... ,
 you can find it here www.henry.it/xmail/myxsats.htm
 It isn't complete, nor perfect, but it fits my needs.

 I see many of you are interested, maybe it would
 be nice to join together and start a project that
  seems really needed by our community ;)

 Ciao
 Dario


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 From: Mark Mealman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:13 PM
 Subject: [xmail] Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?


  Some people just don't like working with Perl and I don't blame them,
  it's an arcane language if you're coming from a C/C++ background. I used
  to work a lot with Perl but moved onto Python because it's much easier
  to work with, though even it has its own unique syntax.
  I hate MS as much as the next guy, heck I'm writing this email via
  Evolution under Linux and my job is a Linux sys admin, but I don't see
  the big deal of the app being written in C# so long as it's checked out
  against Mono for compatibility.
 
  -Mark
 
  On Thu, 2004-04-29 at 12:54, Davide Libenzi wrote:
 
   On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Beau E. Cox wrote:
  
So I guess this has become a Windows-only project. Well good luck.
Have you any idea how many Unix/Linux servers are out there?
   
I don't see your adversion to Perl which has everthing in place,
via CPAN, to accomplish all your needs: portable, avaiable modules
for almost any need, rapid development, ... Do you know perl?
Are you interested in supporting the non-Windows world?
  
   Cannot agree more. For things like reports and more in general
   short-lived (in the for how long they run point of view)
   non-performance-critical applications, Perl is what I'd choose. Perl
is
   what I'd call fashion-free. It's there by a long time and it has no
 plans
   to go anywhere. Eagerly waiting the next Q%% language revolution
driven
 by
   companies that *have* to sell new stuff to grow their guts ...
  
  
  
   - Davide
  
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[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Michal Altair Valasek
Hi,

|There are people who run a Windows 2003 box as just an XMail server 
|-- to me that doesn't make sense, since with the same hardware, you 
|could load Redhat from disk, install Xmail from RPMs and have just 
|about the same ease of install and management as Windows 2003 (and, 
|if I remember correctly there's a significant performance boost when 
|using XMail on Linux).  On the other hand, some people just like 
|Windows.

not only like but know is the keyword for me. There is very few people
who really understands Windows AND Un*x. Give ordinary Un*x admin a Windows
box and Windows admin a Un*x box and the result would be same: bad.

I would not use Un*x. Never, nowhere. Even in cases when it's from
performance and so on reason the best. Because I do not understand it and
have no chance to be as good as on Windows (and have no time to try it). So,
when I run something, it must be either on Windows (then I can handle it) or
a blackbox hardware solution from respectible company.

For me it's simply cheaper and simplier to buy a stronger machine, than
learn other OS.

I would not like to see Win/Lin flamewar here. I personally have nothing
agains Unix-based OS and so on. But Windows and Unix are two different
worlds. Only very few projects is *really* working on both.

Just now I am fighting with Perl on Windows to run SpamAssassin. The
performance is HORRIBLE. Maybe its my fault, but I can't see it. In native
..NET application I know where the bottlenecks are. In Perl I don't know and
no chance that I'll learn in some reasonable time.

Simply don't mix the worlds. Please.

-- Altair

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[xmail] xmail and stdin

2004-04-29 Thread Benny
Hi,

 Shouldn't i be able to send an email out like this:

echo To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  echo Subject:Test message  echo this is 
a test | sendmail -t -froot

What am I missing here???

Ben
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[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Terry L Fritts
Hello Michal,

Thursday, April 29, 2004 you wrote:
MAV Just now I am fighting with Perl on Windows to run SpamAssassin. The
MAV performance is HORRIBLE. Maybe its my fault, but I can't see it. In native
MAV ..NET application I know where the bottlenecks are. In Perl I don't know and
MAV no chance that I'll learn in some reasonable time.

 On my IMAIL list one of the knowledgeable posters, Sandy
 Whiteman, wrote a service for spamc for windows and made it
 available.  See

http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/
 


Terry Fritts
Smart Business Solutions, Inc.

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[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
I agree, perl won't perform well on windows in many cases, and you just
pointed
out the real problem. Don't try to adapt things to a different os, make them
as natural possible...

I discharged running spamassassin on windows (that perl is for *nix), that's
why I
ported a spamc to windows, so I can talk to a *nix server through tcp/ip.

Ciao
Dario


- Original Message - 
From: Michal Altair Valasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 9:45 PM
Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have
a wish list?)


 Hi,

 |There are people who run a Windows 2003 box as just an XMail server
 |-- to me that doesn't make sense, since with the same hardware, you
 |could load Redhat from disk, install Xmail from RPMs and have just
 |about the same ease of install and management as Windows 2003 (and,
 |if I remember correctly there's a significant performance boost when
 |using XMail on Linux).  On the other hand, some people just like
 |Windows.

 not only like but know is the keyword for me. There is very few people
 who really understands Windows AND Un*x. Give ordinary Un*x admin a
Windows
 box and Windows admin a Un*x box and the result would be same: bad.

 I would not use Un*x. Never, nowhere. Even in cases when it's from
 performance and so on reason the best. Because I do not understand it and
 have no chance to be as good as on Windows (and have no time to try it).
So,
 when I run something, it must be either on Windows (then I can handle it)
or
 a blackbox hardware solution from respectible company.

 For me it's simply cheaper and simplier to buy a stronger machine, than
 learn other OS.

 I would not like to see Win/Lin flamewar here. I personally have nothing
 agains Unix-based OS and so on. But Windows and Unix are two different
 worlds. Only very few projects is *really* working on both.

 Just now I am fighting with Perl on Windows to run SpamAssassin. The
 performance is HORRIBLE. Maybe its my fault, but I can't see it. In native
 ..NET application I know where the bottlenecks are. In Perl I don't know
and
 no chance that I'll learn in some reasonable time.

 Simply don't mix the worlds. Please.

 -- Altair

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[xmail] xmail and hylafax

2004-04-29 Thread Benny
Just in case anyone was having the same problem...

You can get hylafax and xmail to play together by editing the last line 
in the [hylfax installation]/bin/notify.

 From this:
) | 21 $SENDMAIL -t -ffax -oi

To this:
) | 21 $SENDMAIL -t -ffax

This is assuming you have the sendmail scripts switch to the xmail ones 
as well.

Davide: Can you think of any reason why the '-oi' would have kept an 
email message from going out?  Basically, I would receive an empty 
recipient list message when I had the '-oi' tag on.

Ben

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[xmail] XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Fred

Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.

fred

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[xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
Check out:

http://xmail.eye-catcher.com/Community/Downloads/General/60.aspx

Shawn 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] XMail quota monitor


Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.

fred

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[xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Fred

Thanks for the reply Shawn, this is exactly what i need but unfortunately
the script does not work :(

I tried it on a redhat-8.0 box and on a FreeBSD-4.8 box, both are running
perl-5.8.0.

Do you know what is going on here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./xmailquotamonitor.pl 
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 35: use: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 36: use: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 43: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 44: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 45: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 48: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 50: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 53: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 56: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 57: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 58: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 59: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 63: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 71: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 72: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 73: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 74: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 75: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 76: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 77: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 78: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 79: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 80: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 81: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 82: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 83: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 84: .=: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 87: =: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 89: my: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 90: my: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 92: my: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 95: my: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 96: my: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 98: chomp: command not found
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: syntax error near unexpected token `0,'
../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: `Output (0, XMQuotaMonitor);'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#


fred

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shawn Anderson
Sent: 29 avril, 2004 16:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

Check out:

http://xmail.eye-catcher.com/Community/Downloads/General/60.aspx

Shawn 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] XMail quota monitor


Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.

fred

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[xmail] CustMapsList and SMTP.IPPROP.TAB question

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
Davide,

Would it be possible to add a way to skip the CustomMapsList look up based
on domains as well as IP address?  I have a few clients that are on dynamic
ip address for there outgoing mail server (business clients not end users)
and it would be great if I could just add there exact domain.

Shawn

-Original Message-
From: Shawn Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:25 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [xmail] Re: CustMapsList question?

Darn it, how did I miss that in the manual :)  Thanks.

Shawn 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Bowen Moursund
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 4:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: CustMapsList question?

 Does anyone know if it is possible to exclude certain IPs/domains from 
 the CustMapsList check?

Yes, in smtp.ipprop.tab, e.g.:

xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/32[TAB]WhiteList=1

--
Bowen Moursund
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[xmail] root@localhost

2004-04-29 Thread Ken Larkman
My time for a dumb question:
I want all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent to my postmaster
account. I've set up the sendmail that comes with Xmail and it seems to
work fine. However, I seem to be missing out on how to configure Xmail
to accept submissions to root or [EMAIL PROTECTED].

Any pointers or suggestions?

Thanks,

- Ken


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[xmail] Re: xmail and hylafax

2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Benny wrote:

 Just in case anyone was having the same problem...
 
 You can get hylafax and xmail to play together by editing the last line 
 in the [hylfax installation]/bin/notify.
 
  From this:
 ) | 21 $SENDMAIL -t -ffax -oi
 
 To this:
 ) | 21 $SENDMAIL -t -ffax
 
 This is assuming you have the sendmail scripts switch to the xmail ones 
 as well.
 
 Davide: Can you think of any reason why the '-oi' would have kept an 
 email message from going out?  Basically, I would receive an empty 
 recipient list message when I had the '-oi' tag on.

You should use -i



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[xmail] Re: xmail and stdin

2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Benny wrote:

 Hi,
 
  Shouldn't i be able to send an email out like this:
 
 echo To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  echo Subject:Test message  echo this is 
 a test | sendmail -t -froot
 
 What am I missing here???

What's the error that you get?



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[xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
Hmm, I only tested it on perl-5.6.x

When I get a chance I'll try to test it on v5.8.

Shawn

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor


Thanks for the reply Shawn, this is exactly what i need but unfortunately
the script does not work :(

I tried it on a redhat-8.0 box and on a FreeBSD-4.8 box, both are running
perl-5.8.0.

Do you know what is going on here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./xmailquotamonitor.pl
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 35: use: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 36: use: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 43: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 44: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 45: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 48: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 50: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 53: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 56: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 57: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 58: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 59: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 63: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 71: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 72: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 73: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 74: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 75: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 76: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 77: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 78: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 79: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 80: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 81: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 82: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 83: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 84: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 87: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 89: my: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 90: my: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 92: my: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 95: my: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 96: my: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 98: chomp: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: syntax error near unexpected token `0,'
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: `Output (0, XMQuotaMonitor);'
[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#


fred

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Shawn Anderson
Sent: 29 avril, 2004 16:36
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

Check out:

http://xmail.eye-catcher.com/Community/Downloads/General/60.aspx

Shawn 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] XMail quota monitor


Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.

fred

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[xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Achim Schmidt
- option 1:
  fix line 1 of the script: 
  #/usr/bin/perl 
   becomes
  #!/usr/bin/perl

- option 2:
  run $ perl xmailquotamonitor.pl 


Am Do, 2004-04-29 um 23.01 schrieb Fred:
 Thanks for the reply Shawn, this is exactly what i need but unfortunately
 the script does not work :(
 
 I tried it on a redhat-8.0 box and on a FreeBSD-4.8 box, both are running
 perl-5.8.0.
 
 Do you know what is going on here:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./xmailquotamonitor.pl 
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 35: use: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 36: use: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 43: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 44: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 45: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 48: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 50: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 53: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 56: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 57: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 58: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 59: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 63: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 71: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 72: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 73: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 74: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 75: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 76: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 77: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 78: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 79: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 80: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 81: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 82: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 83: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 84: .=: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 87: =: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 89: my: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 90: my: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 92: my: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 95: my: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 96: my: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 98: chomp: command not found
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: syntax error near unexpected token `0,'
 ../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 104: `Output (0, XMQuotaMonitor);'
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]#
 
 
 fred
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Shawn Anderson
 Sent: 29 avril, 2004 16:36
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor
 
 Check out:
 
 http://xmail.eye-catcher.com/Community/Downloads/General/60.aspx
 
 Shawn 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Fred
 Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:28 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [xmail] XMail quota monitor
 
 
 Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
 please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
 my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
 bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
 to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.
 
 fred
 
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[xmail] Re: root@localhost

2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Ken Larkman wrote:

 My time for a dumb question:
 I want all messages sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent to my postmaster
 account. I've set up the sendmail that comes with Xmail and it seems to
 work fine. However, I seem to be missing out on how to configure Xmail
 to accept submissions to root or [EMAIL PROTECTED].
 
 Any pointers or suggestions?

Just do a cmdalias with a redirect



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[xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

2004-04-29 Thread Kirk Friggstad
Looks like that perl script was originally written for Windows - you're
going to need to change the first line:
#/usr/bin/perl
to
#!/usr/bin/perl
(note missing bang) - and verify the path to your copy of perl. You also
need to go through the script and update paths in the User Configurable
Settings block of code.

Hope that helps.

Kirk


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred
Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor



Thanks for the reply Shawn, this is exactly what i need but unfortunately
the script does not work :(

I tried it on a redhat-8.0 box and on a FreeBSD-4.8 box, both are running
perl-5.8.0.

Do you know what is going on here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] bin]# ./xmailquotamonitor.pl
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 35: use: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 36: use: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 43: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 44: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 45: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 48: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 50: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 53: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 56: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 57: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 58: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 59: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 63: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 71: =: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 72: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 73: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 74: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 75: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 76: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 77: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 78: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 79: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 80: .=: command not found
.../xmailquotamonitor.pl: line 81: .=: command not found
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fred

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Subject: [xmail] Re: XMail quota monitor

Check out:

http://xmail.eye-catcher.com/Community/Downloads/General/60.aspx

Shawn

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Hi, maybe someone already written a script that does what i need, if yes
please post the url. I need something that will monitor all the mailboxes of
my xmail server to make sure the sum of all messages in each mbox isn't
bigger than specified in user.tab. If bigger, the script would send an email
to me so I can contact the user before he starts crying a river.

fred

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[xmail] Re: CustMapsList and SMTP.IPPROP.TAB question

2004-04-29 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 Davide,
 
 Would it be possible to add a way to skip the CustomMapsList look up based
 on domains as well as IP address?  I have a few clients that are on dynamic
 ip address for there outgoing mail server (business clients not end users)
 and it would be great if I could just add there exact domain.

Use SMTP auth.



- Davide

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[xmail] Re: CustMapsList and SMTP.IPPROP.TAB question

2004-04-29 Thread Shawn Anderson
That doesn't help for emails coming from other SMTP servers, only people
connecting directly to my server.

Shawn
 

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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Shawn Anderson wrote:

 Davide,
 
 Would it be possible to add a way to skip the CustomMapsList look up 
 based on domains as well as IP address?  I have a few clients that are 
 on dynamic ip address for there outgoing mail server (business clients 
 not end users) and it would be great if I could just add there exact
domain.

Use SMTP auth.



- Davide

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[xmail] Re: XMail Platforms ( was Re: Xmail reports -- anyone have a wish list?)

2004-04-29 Thread Dario Jakopec
I agree with every point Davide.
I would just add that well implemented multiple spamd hosts is an efficient
solution used on very large mail servers.
I think the major problem is when you have it all done by one server (mail,
spamc/spamd, web, dns ).

Ciao
Dario

 Look SA is slow everywhere, not only on Windows. And it's not entirely a
 Perl responsibility. Simply the app does not scale, having to evaluate
 hundreds of regualr expressions, parse HTML, call for DNS resolution,
etc...
 The cause of the performance problem is, on one side the application
 design (and nature), on the other side the slowness of an interpreting
 environment that has to be loaded at every run. If you are trying to plug
 SA on a mail server that processes 500+ messages per minute, you are going
 to suffer in some way. Things like SPAMC though, can help cutting down the
 interpreter loading time. Remember, SA would be slow on every environment
 that is interpreted, since 1) interpreted enviroment needs time to
 initialize 2) SA uses, being a complex thing, a bunch of modules, that in
 turn needs to initialize 3) it has become a huge thing, with the number of
 performed tests incresing every day.



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