[xmail] Re: mail problem

2005-09-21 Thread Jeff Buehler

Hi Charlie -

Well, I'm uncertain what to tell you.  My suspicion, since I have heard 
of no one having this particular sort of problem (there is a large XMail 
user base running 1.21 on Linux) is that there is something being 
overlooked.  I would double check your findings as scientifically as 
possible, and make absolutely certain that what you think you are seeing 
is really what you are seeing.  Make certain that the addresses you are 
using are all valid, that the logs are definately not reporting anything 
strange, your XMail server.tab settings look right, and so on.

If you are certain about your findings, then I would start looking at 
other apps that may be interfering or trying to bind to the ports, such 
as Sendmail (which should be disabled, or at least XMail and Sendmail 
should be binding to different ports).  If that all looks good, I would 
test your connection to make certain that packets aren't dropping or 
something.  make certain your MTU setting is correct (if you are 
connecting via DSL PPP then it is likely less than the default of 1500 
as I recall).  I have had incorrect MTU settings cause intermittent 
failures that can be difficult to pin down.

Without at least one or two other people verifying the findings or 
seeing the behavior, it probably indicates to an misconfiguration (of 
some sort) or an anomaly on your system.  Did you try searching the 
forums for any similar user experiences?

Jeff



Charlie Qualls wrote:

Hey there Jeff,

I forgot, this also happens if listing several people in the to
address field. I don't know how many before it balks though.


  


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[xmail] Re: mail problem

2005-09-21 Thread Charlie Qualls

Hey there Jeff,

Thanks for your thinking this out for me. I'll see what else I can
find. I know that large organizations use the program and I think it's
a wonderful program, I'm a small operation with less then 30 users not
counting the users I created to try to figure out the problem. Thanks
again for some guidence on where else to look and places to look for a
answer.
In answer to you question about looking in the forums, no I didn't try
searching that. I do know that for as long as I have been reading this
group(about 2yrs) I have never seen a problem like this.


-- 
Charlie Qualls
Property Director/IT Manager
Girl Scouts - Fox Valley Council
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Wednesday, September 21, 2005, 11:38:36 AM, you wrote:

 Hi Charlie -

 Well, I'm uncertain what to tell you.  My suspicion, since I have heard
 of no one having this particular sort of problem (there is a large XMail
 user base running 1.21 on Linux) is that there is something being 
 overlooked.  I would double check your findings as scientifically as
 possible, and make absolutely certain that what you think you are seeing
 is really what you are seeing.  Make certain that the addresses you are
 using are all valid, that the logs are definately not reporting anything
 strange, your XMail server.tab settings look right, and so on.

 If you are certain about your findings, then I would start looking at 
 other apps that may be interfering or trying to bind to the ports, such
 as Sendmail (which should be disabled, or at least XMail and Sendmail 
 should be binding to different ports).  If that all looks good, I would
 test your connection to make certain that packets aren't dropping or 
 something.  make certain your MTU setting is correct (if you are 
 connecting via DSL PPP then it is likely less than the default of 1500
 as I recall).  I have had incorrect MTU settings cause intermittent 
 failures that can be difficult to pin down.

 Without at least one or two other people verifying the findings or 
 seeing the behavior, it probably indicates to an misconfiguration (of 
 some sort) or an anomaly on your system.  Did you try searching the 
 forums for any similar user experiences?

 Jeff



 Charlie Qualls wrote:

Hey there Jeff,

I forgot, this also happens if listing several people in the to
address field. I don't know how many before it balks though.


  


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[xmail] Re: mail problem

2005-09-21 Thread Jeff Buehler

The forum is an excellent resource, if sometimes challenging to get 
through (lots of info and search doesn't always cut it)...
http://xmailforum.homelinux.net/


Charlie Qualls wrote:

Hey there Jeff,

Thanks for your thinking this out for me. I'll see what else I can
find. I know that large organizations use the program and I think it's
a wonderful program, I'm a small operation with less then 30 users not
counting the users I created to try to figure out the problem. Thanks
again for some guidence on where else to look and places to look for a
answer.
In answer to you question about looking in the forums, no I didn't try
searching that. I do know that for as long as I have been reading this
group(about 2yrs) I have never seen a problem like this.


  

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[xmail] Re: mail problem

2005-09-20 Thread Jeff Buehler

So,  when you receive mail some email is lost - the logs say that mail 
came in correctly but it is not in the Domains  - MailDir - new folder 
and when you send email some mail is lost - the logs say that it was 
sent correctly, but it never arrives at the recipient email account -  
and this happens ONLY with mail groups that you are aware of?  Is that 
the gist of it?

Jeff

Charlie Qualls wrote:

Hello Group,

   I'm using 1.21 on a redhat server running just mail. I'm having a
   issue of mail delivery. The logs say the mail was received ok but
   if I go look in the mailbox, it's not there. This happens
   internally and externally. I set up 30 bogus accounts and using the
   bat as a client set it up to mail to groups or list. I mail 4
   test messages to the list of the bogus accounts. Checking each
   account, some made it and some did not. There was no rhythm or
   reason to which made it and which did not.
   Again this is also happening to mail sent outside of our system.
   Oh I also tried this with Thunderbird and had the same results but
   no pattern to what was delivered and what wasn't.

   Mostly I hope I explained the problem well enough that you all
   understand my problem.

  


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[xmail] Re: mail problem

2005-09-20 Thread Charlie Qualls

Hey there Jeff,

Yes that is the gist as best as I can tell.


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Charlie Qualls
Property Director/IT Manager
Girl Scouts - Fox Valley Council
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Tuesday, September 20, 2005, 6:23:36 PM, you wrote:

 So,  when you receive mail some email is lost - the logs say that mail
 came in correctly but it is not in the Domains  - MailDir - new folder
 and when you send email some mail is lost - the logs say that it was 
 sent correctly, but it never arrives at the recipient email account -
 and this happens ONLY with mail groups that you are aware of?  Is that
 the gist of it?

 Jeff

 Charlie Qualls wrote:

Hello Group,

   I'm using 1.21 on a redhat server running just mail. I'm having a
   issue of mail delivery. The logs say the mail was received ok but
   if I go look in the mailbox, it's not there. This happens
   internally and externally. I set up 30 bogus accounts and using the
   bat as a client set it up to mail to groups or list. I mail 4
   test messages to the list of the bogus accounts. Checking each
   account, some made it and some did not. There was no rhythm or
   reason to which made it and which did not.
   Again this is also happening to mail sent outside of our system.
   Oh I also tried this with Thunderbird and had the same results but
   no pattern to what was delivered and what wasn't.

   Mostly I hope I explained the problem well enough that you all
   understand my problem.

  


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