Re: For the website team - Error on the website

2014-04-17 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Josiah K techsolutions...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Xubuntu!

 Trusty is going to be awesome, but when I check for the update using the
 software updater, it tells me that it can`t connect to the repositories, and
 that I should check my internet connection, but I know that this computer is
 connected to the internet because I can browse to any page I want to.

It's release day, so all the servers hosting Ubuntu stuff are going to
be very very slow.

 Also,
 when trying to download it from xubuntu.org, it would not let me download,
 instead took me to a page that made no sense. I also tried downloading it
 from a mirror in Germany, and it gave me the 404 error. Why?

Since the release just came out, the mirrors haven't had time to
populate yet. We suggest you use the torrents for now if you want to
get it today.

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Re: For the website team - Error on the website

2014-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:44 AM, DaveT da...@mtomlinson.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
 Your link to Frequently asked questions takes one to a page about Plop.

Thanks Dave, this is a regression caused by one of our archive
updates. That post is a FAQ post, but it only shows that post, none of
the previous ones.

Pasi is working on it, progress is being tracked on this bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1298564

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Re: Xubuntu Screenshots

2014-04-02 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:55 AM, George Miller
george.austin.mil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello Xubuntu Devs,

   A co-worker showed me today that your Xubuntu screenshots
 (http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/) all have the word Sex where the day of
 the week should be at the top of the screen. March 7, 2014 was a Friday, so
 I can only assume this is there because the system language is Portugese or
 Latin. I'm not sure if this is in error or on purpose (Xubuntu is pretty
 sexy), but it's probably best for marketing and such to take some new
 screenshots on a different day of the week.

It wasn't on purpose to convey anything (calling tech sexy has
always been kind of odd to me!), but it was taken on a Friday by a
contributor who speaks Portugese as his primary language.

With the 14.04 release just a couple weeks away, we're planning on
making new screenshots anyway, so this will resolve itself then :)

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Re: Getting Started page

2014-03-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 7:12 PM, Ted Cox ted.m@gmail.com wrote:
 What would that page cover? Why wouldn't it be better suited in the
 appropriate subsections?

 Cheers,
 Pasi


 Sorry, I realized I wasn't specific enough. I meant creating a Getting
 Started with Documentation page.

 As of now, there doesn't seem to be a place that lists out all the different
 steps for getting going with documentation: signing the Ubuntu Code of
 Conduct, creating a public key, uploading the key to Lauchpad, installing
 Bzr and Docbook, etc.

 I'm proposing a single page that lists out all those different steps.

That's a good point, thanks for pointing it out Ted!

Since Xubuntu is technically part of the Ubuntu Documentation team, I
think we tend to assume people will use the documentation there, ie:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/UbuntuDesktopGuide

But I guess it's not very discoverable if you're not familiar with the
community, and since Ubuntu switched over from DocBook to Mallard some
of the instructions are no longer accurate for Xubuntu.

We should probably work with the Ubuntu Documentation team to fragment
this page a bit so we can include portions that are applicable to
us and have our own, similar page.

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Re: Feedback on the QA cycle

2014-03-20 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
 but not least, thanks for putting up with us all who
 have sometimes more or less neglected our duties in QA and being
 unresponsive to questions and calls. It is very much appreciated, and I
 totally think that 14.04 would be a lesser release without your work and
 persistence!

Absolutely, Elfy's really done an exceptional job staying on top of
all of this even with all his other commitments to Ubuntu and beyond.
Thank you for your work!

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Re: Hello

2014-03-17 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Adam Eveleigh adam1evele...@gmail.com wrote:
 tl;dr Wanting to help, tell me how :)

Hi Adam - welcome!

My first question would be, what interests you?

You can take a look at our Contribute page: http://xubuntu.org/contribute/

Does anything there sound interesting? If so, we can help figure out
exactly what to focus on.

And we always need more folks testing the upcoming release, one of the
tests at http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ is a Live Session test that can be
completed without installing anything on your system. Walkthrough for
ISO testing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Walkthrough

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Re: Xubuntu 14.04

2014-02-28 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Lutz Andersohn landers...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just installed a clean 14.04 Alpha-2 and noted a few things:

Someone else can jump in on specific points, but I did want to point
out that the Alpha2 now a few weeks old and Beta1 came out yesterday:

http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-14-04-beta-1/

Think you could take it for a spin and see if your core issues remain?

Thanks for testing!

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Re: More on 14.04

2014-02-28 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Lutz Andersohn
l.anders...@brienholdenvision.com wrote:
 the xfce page recommends wicd as network manager but 14.04 comes with the
 gnome network manager. Is that by design?

Xubuntu uses Xfce, but reserves the right to diverge from recommended
and developed applications in the Xfce ecosystem, see our Strategy
Document for more about application selection:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument

In this case, network manager is embedded in how Ubuntu systems work
networking-wise, and since we're an Ubuntu flavor we tend to follow
their lead there.

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Re: Wikipedia/Website/Youtube: Suggestions/Ideas

2014-01-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
Hi Jay, thanks for your ideas! My responses inline.

On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 8:07 AM, Jay Torian jaytor...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suggestions:

 1) Wikipedia

 - 13.10 is very elegant - show most recent release first, and older releases
 as one scrolls down into history
 - add section about machine specifications in table of contents with
 likely hardware for success
 - add community section with links to forums community resources
 - if possible, highlight current release features and benefits for users in
 factual simple terms in top section

To avoid conflict of interest[0], team members have typically steered
clear of editing the Wikipedia page about Xubuntu, in spite of some
factual errors. I would encourage users like yourself to take on this
task if you feel the need, but I do ask that you keep in mind that
it's not an advertising site for us and we want to keep the integrity
of the wikipedia process intact :)

 2) YouTube

 - I see a YouTube channel, but it looks like it's auto-generated?
   - http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV23eiaIuBJU_4uQPu4htWw
 - Can you claim it and use it?
 - Create videos for OS tour, how to install, how to, etc., pull in
 other videos on YouTube you feel are good quality into channel queue

This is an auto-generated list from YouTube, details on Topic pages here:

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2579942?hl=en

So it's not really something anyone can control.

If we had volunteers to produce these videos it would be great, but
unfortunately we haven't had much luck in recruiting folks to do this.
I encourage anyone to follow-up with this if they think it's something
they can work on.

 3) Website
 - Product Tour
   - good section but more screenshots and large images show off the desktop
 and window visuals
   - full size 1280+ graphics to simulate
   - enhance information about machine specs and user benefits
   - add New to Xubuntu section for first timers

We're actually in the process of updating this rather stale, boring
page. Thanks for the feedback!

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest

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Re: TEAM - Next Team Meeting

2013-12-29 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:11 AM, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote:
 I am wondering how many of us will be available - with time ticking rather
 quickly - what's the consensus on having people say when they will be about
 so we can get as many as possible at the next meeting.

 Elfy

 PS - Simon's not going to be about until the 3 or 4th of January

I'll be around on the 2nd, but I could also do the 3rd for a meeting.
I'll be on a flight on the 4th and in .au the whole following week,
making scheduling tricky.

That said, a time when most devs can meet is most valuable, I can do
much of my planning+work asynchronously.

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Re: For the website team - Error on the website

2013-12-22 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:47 PM, DOMINIQUE DESFORGES
dominiquedesforge...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi i  hi   try  to fix  isssue thks

Can you be a bit more specific?

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Re: xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 99, Issue 13

2013-12-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 10:31 AM, raleigh rivers
raleig...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On 12/13/2013 06:29 AM, xubuntu-devel-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

We've recently had some inquiries from volunteers interested in getting
 involved in documentation. How big the scope of this project can be will
 most likely depend on how much help we can get, so this might be an
 opportunity to get your feet wet. Please let us know if you are interested
 in helping. Thanks, Jack

 I like Xubuntu and am willing to help out, but a lot of my time is spent
 looking for jobs. Are volunteers given credits on the web site? That, along
 with a contact person for references, could be useful for those of us
 seeking employment. If on the other hand volunteers are anonymous, then that
 might be of interest to retired individuals.

Very little is done anonymously in this project, unless you are using
a pseudonym and want to be somewhat anonymous. There are various ways
that contributions are tracked.

If you look at my launchpad profile https://launchpad.net/~lyz you'll
see under Most Active In that Xubuntu Website is #3 for me.

If you work on documentation you get added to the credits file, ie:
http://docs.xubuntu.org/1310/ln-idp359824.html

If you're a developer, your name will be in changelogs, for example:
http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/x/xubuntu-meta/xubuntu-meta_2.175/changelog

If you're doing testing, your name will show up on the tracker:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/testers

This is all fair game for including on a resume, I sure do.

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Re: Open positions to work on Xubuntu officially?

2013-12-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Michael Lueck
mlu...@lueckdatasystems.com wrote:
 I have enjoyed using Xubuntu as an Ubuntu alternative since 12.04. I have
 been 10 years on Debian style distros (server/firewall usage), Ubuntu since
 7.04, desktop Linux since late 2007, and decided to avoid both Unity and
 Gnome 3 switching to the X flavor when I transitioned from Ubuntu 10.04 to
 Xubuntu 12.04.

 The Xfce environment really makes sense to me... I find it even more like
 OS/2's WPS than Gnome 2, which I understood took direction from WPS.

Glad you're enjoying it!

 Anyway... this weekend I noticed:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu#History

 Sounds like there might be need for more people to officially be working on
 Xubuntu.

 I pulled down the 13.10 ISO so I could boot a ThinkPad T540p machine which
 12.04 would not boot on due to the new UEFI Secure Boot.

 At first glance I still do not see integrated Samba share GUI browsing
 support booted in LiveCD mode. It has already been a long time since the
 last LTS release... 12.04. Is there some sort of a roadmap the Xubuntu team
 is working on that such milestones would be listed on?

Thanks for your interest! Our roadmap for the 14.04 LTS release can be
found here:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap

There's also the general Get Involved page on our website if you
don't see anything there that is interesting:
http://xubuntu.org/contribute/

 Are there any
 official openings which I could join Canonical and be dedicated mostly to
 working on Xubuntu?

All members of the project[0] are unpaid volunteers. No one is
employed (by Canonical or anyone else) to work specifically on
Xubuntu.

Our relationship with Canonical is as follows:

Xubuntu uses Ubuntu for a base (kernels, many libraries, etc), as a
result we benefit from Canonical's development team and volunteers
within the Ubuntu, Xfce, Debian and other communities.

Canonical helps us with resources (mailing list, web, ISO hosting and
we use their launchpad.net services)

We coordinate with them on release management (spinning up and
releasing our ISOs).

[0] https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+members

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Re: Update of the minimum requierements

2013-11-28 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:45 AM, Inti Alonso intialo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Im testing in a desktop with an AMD Duron 1.6, 256mb of ram (minus 64 from
 integrated SIS graphics).

 Xubuntu 13.10 Live CD keep loading for ever, I waited for 30 min and the
 live sesion never showed. I guess 256mn of ram is not the minimun for the
 live cd.
 Lubuntu 13.10 Alternate CD: Boots and install without problems, run a little
 slow but is tolerable.

Thanks for the tests!

 I think that Xubuntu should keep building the Alternate images, at least for
 the i386 architechture, which I guess, are the slowest system that may need
 Xubuntu.

Unfortunately we had to drop the Alternate installer after the 12.04
release due to lack of testers available for it. I don't believe that
status has changed any.

Currently we recommend that people use the mini ISO[0] and install
Xubuntu from that, which will download the packages from the internet
(I understand there is an option for what desktop to install).

[0] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD

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Re: Update of the minimum requierements

2013-11-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Richard Elkins
richard.elk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Will,

 Not to discourage you .

Uh oh, no response, I fear we may have scared him off :)

 Performance test plan?

 Goals/design
 Individual tests
 What do you intend to hold constant and what will you vary?
 VM host machine environment E.g. hardware CPU/GPU/chip-sets, Linux kernel
 video module, X-Windows video driver
 VM settings to be used (chipset, EFI, display, etc.)

These are very good points so in an attempt to move this along...

I'll start off by saying that we do now recommend a user have 512M of
RAM once it's installed, which might be OK.

Also worthy of note, we offer 32 and 64-bit versions. 64-bit tends to
take more RAM so we'll want to pay attention to that.

Now, I'd like to propose the following testing plan that it would be
great to see results from a few folks for to test a random smattering
of CPUs and other factors:

Test 1: 12.04 Alternate CD, 32  64-bit

Our website claims you can install 12.04 Alternate on 64M of RAM, I'm
skeptical but we should start here :)

Use the 12.04 Alternate CD installer on a VM with 64M of RAM and a
single CPU - I suspect the installer will finish but will it even
boot?

If not, add RAM by increments of 64M of RAM until you get a system
that boots and you can log in to.

Report results (remember, we say 512M once it's installed, so if it's
slow that might be ok)

Test 2: 12.04 Live CD, 32  64-bit

Our website claims you can install 12.04 standard on 256M of RAM, this
may be possible - let's try! Same methodology as above.

Test 3: 13.10 Live CD, 32  64-bit

Did 12.04 work on 256M? Can 13.10 as well? Let's try! Same methodology as above.

These tests will take time, so if you want to just do one of these
tests - great, reply with your results of that one test and enjoy your
week! Every test done will be helpful in determining where we stand.

Thanks everyone.

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Re: Update of the minimum requierements

2013-11-15 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Bruno Benitez gridc...@gmail.com wrote:
 As technological boundaries move on, and as newer hardware and software make
 their presences felt, perhaps it is time to take a look at our hardware
 requirements. [1]

 Many users move to Xubuntu from older computers to try to revitalize them.
 While the system will work, and they will be able to use the programs that
 we ship in our default installation, it is possible that a computer with
 only the minimum requirements will not provide the type of experience we
 would wish to show the world.

 As Xubuntu is not exclusively targeted toward older systems, we believe that
 it is important to warn our prospective users about this issue.

 We know that many of you deploy Xubuntu on a  regular basis, so we're asking
 you to tell us what you consider to be a realistic Minimum and Recommended
 setup.

 Specifically we would like to know how much RAM and Hard Disk space you
 would recommend to a new user if you were going to install Xubuntu for them.

 Could they still work with the stated minimum of 512MB of RAM and 4.4Gb of
 hard disk space for a desktop install?

Thanks for bringing this up again, Ali did some tests back in July,
the current bug report on the issue is here:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1201841

It would be great if we could get some more tests run against both
12.04 and 13.10 to determine where we stand today and make updates
accordingly. Is anyone able to spin up some VMs to determine where we
stand?

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Re: New proposed Strategy Document - Text Editor discussion

2013-11-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote:
 1. Would you find it appropriate to include a stronger mention of privacy
 and user's rights - diverging from where I see Ubuntu going? I mean
 protecting users from unwanted searches and unrequested Amazon suggestions
 or other similar steps. If users specifically want such capabilities, let
 them choose to install something. Let the OS do nothing to promote and
 instead do the opposite (discourage upsteam from building such features into
 DEs, exclude packages from default install that do such things, etc.). I
 understand the distro makes many choices but let those choices be guided by
 principles of freedom and privacy as much as possible.


 While this is not specifically mentioned in the Strategy Document, the
 components in Xubuntu do not do this, and if anything that does would be
 proposed for inclusion, it would need a thorough discussion. I think I can
 speak for the whole team that nobody wants such things in. However, it would
 be quite some work to get a well thought out strategy written, so I'm
 uncertain if we want to take the extra step unless we need to make a clear
 decision for or agaisnt such things.

 Ultimately, while security and privacy is important for us, we aren't
 exactly a security-focused OS, nor is it our goal to become one. There are
 other OS'es that do it better than us. (Again, this is not to say I think we
 shouldn't care about the privacy of our users.)

+1

I will add that I really don't like adding reactionary things to our
Strategy Document. When you lack context these kinds additions are
confusing and seem out of place. In fact, we specifically removed some
things in this revision that were reactions to past things.

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Re: New proposed Strategy Document

2013-11-06 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Joshua O'Leary jmoey...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 It mentions C++ programs as being unsuitable, but this is clearly not the 
 case as core components
 (such as apt and software-centre, and now even gcc) are coded in C++, in 
 addition to python being used quite heavily.
 Whilst C is a great language (I often code in it myself), these restrictions 
 seem a bit unnecessary.

Yeah, we actually discussed this as we were going through the
document. I'm still on the fence about it.

This is meant to be a list of guidelines and things we should
*consider* when proposing default applications, not a hard and fast
rule. In general we actually would accept an application written in
C++ if it was sufficiently fast in relation to the alternatives and
satisfied other requirements we had. Honestly, in this world of GUI
applications written in Python, I think C++ is not so bad.

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Re: For the website team - Xubuntu was in the press

2013-10-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Silver Moon m00n.sil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 We published a review of Xubuntu 13.10

 http://www.binarytides.com/xubuntu-13-10-review/

Thank you for reviewing it and letting us know! I've gone ahead and
added it to the site :)

http://xubuntu.org/press/

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Re: A request to help develop the website.

2013-10-24 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Will Partridge willp...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear xubuntu developers,

 I noticed that the website is not very informative at first glance and
 perhaps it could do with a little spicing up such as having tabs at the top
 for navigating between the important pages, I have basic knowledge of HTML
 and I am keen to help... I have plenty of time and I am willing to learn!

Welcome! We have a dedicated web developer and designer (Pasi
Lallinaho) who works on much of the code and design of the site, but
we can always do with fresh eyes taking a look at the site, giving
feedback to improve things and filing bugs:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bugs

And happy to discuss design proposals here on the list. As always with
this stuff, just keep in mind that it's heavily subjective (personally
I find the links where they are now much easier than tabs along the
top!).

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No XMir by default in 13.10

2013-08-22 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
Hi everyone,

At our meeting on August 22nd we got an update from the Mir developers
and then the team voted to not move forward with using XMir in the
13.10 release.

Full meeting logs  minutes:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2013-08-22

Pasi has written about it here:
http://open.knome.fi/2013/08/22/xubuntu-team-no-mir-for-13-10/

We will come back to evaluating XMir during the next cycle when it has
the features we want and is more mature, hopefully at that point it
can be a better option for our users.

Thanks to all of the folks who stepped up to help us with testing, we
hope you stick around to help with more testing of other components of
Xubuntu, we can always use the help :)

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Re: Xubuntu vUDS sessions

2013-08-14 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Bruno Benitez gridc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I would like for it to be in the IRC channels, for logs and for inclusion of
 those who cant watch the video for some reason or the other.

+1

It's also quite difficult for me to find time mid-day (which is what
17-1800 UTC are for me) for the kind of undivided attention required
to participate in a Google Hangout, as such I'll mostly be sitting out
this mid-cycle vUDS. IRC is ok though :)

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Re: http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/

2013-08-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, The Elkins Family
richard.elk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suggestion: Would it be possible to get a down for repairs simple page
 when this is so?  Not trying to be picky; I was just confused.

Unfortunately the problem is that the owner lost control of the
domain, so there is no way for him to make this change.

He's currently working with the registrar to restore access, hopefully he can.

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Re: http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/

2013-08-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, The Elkins Family
 richard.elk...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suggestion: Would it be possible to get a down for repairs simple page
 when this is so?  Not trying to be picky; I was just confused.

 Unfortunately the problem is that the owner lost control of the
 domain, so there is no way for him to make this change.

 He's currently working with the registrar to restore access, hopefully he can.

For those of you following along at home, it's back now :)

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Re: Xubuntu with xmir

2013-08-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Scott Moore scottb...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Not working well at all on an IBM Thinkpad T60 (profile here:
 wiki.ubuntu.com/scottbomb/IBM_T60 ). I'm currently trying to figure out the
 packages to file bugs against. At this time, I can supply screen shots only
 of the errors.

Thanks Scott! Please let us know if you need help filing the bugs.
You're also welcome to upload the screenshots somewhere (there are
many free image services) and share the links here on list so we can
help out.

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Re: xmir results

2013-08-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Christopher Patrick
cpatric...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 root@xubuntu:/home/xubuntu#  ps ax | grep system-comp
  2397 ?S  0:00 /bin/sh /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor.sleep
 --from-dm-fd 10 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
  2403 tty7 Ssl+   0:04 /usr/sbin/unity-system-compositor --from-dm-fd 10
 --to-dm-fd 13 --vt 7
  2542 ?S  0:00 gksudo xfce4-terminal -x less
 /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log
  2561 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/sudo -H -S -p GNOME_SUDO_PASS -u root --
 xfce4-terminal -x less /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log
  2573 ?Sl 0:00 xfce4-terminal -x less
 /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log
  2736 pts/0Ss+0:00 less /var/log/lightdm/unity-system-compositor.log
  2994 pts/1S+ 0:00 grep --color=auto system-comp

 hardware http://ubuntuone.com/2aNFOuslmUykr9XmSbDhaQ

Do you have any feedback as to how well it worked for you?

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Re: [Testing Report 1] Xubuntu Saucy with MIR

2013-08-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjja...@gmail.comwrote:


 On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:14 PM, Bruno Benitez gridc...@gmail.com wrote:




 2013/8/4 Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjja...@gmail.com

  I wish someone could change/rephrase that on the website:
 http://vanir.unit193.tk/mir/

  So, it would be clear and easy to understand for everyone :)


 What I meant is: After booting the system, a terminal window with the
 unity-system-compositor log will display. To confirm that you are running
 XMir, type ps ax | grep system-comp

 Better to be (IMHO): Open Terminal and type: ps ax | grep system-comp


That's not accurate though. What the text on the website is explaining is
that a terminal window with the log should already be open, so there is no
need to be surprised that a terminal shows up with log stuff in it. With
this terminal you can type the ps command in. No need to open a new
terminal.

Maybe putting these two sentences on separate lines would help people read
them more slowly so they understand they are two separate things?

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Re: Xubuntu Saucy on Mir/XMir

2013-08-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 12:24 AM, digitalshankar
shankarforfrie...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi today i downloaded the Xubuntu Xmir ISO and i tried the command which they
 have mentioned to test the Xmir and the following is the output which i took
 the screenshot. I used Virtualbox on top of Ubuntu 13.04 to run the Xubuntu
 13.10.

 Screenshot after selecting Try Xubuntu during Startup:

 http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/file/n5034990/15.png


 Screenshot after entering ps ax | grep system-comp command :

 http://ubuntu.5.x6.nabble.com/file/n5034990/38.png

Thanks for giving it a try! Unfortunately this result means that it
failed back to X.Org and XMir wasn't actually in use. Good data point
seeing that it's failing over properly for you though :)

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Re: Xubuntu Saucy on Mir/XMir

2013-08-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:55 PM, James Freer jessejazza3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looking at the mag I was surprised to see that 13.04 is described as
 an LTS version. LTS were always even year releases and the others were
 for supported for 18 months which it now says are 9 months.

This is indeed a mistake on their part. We only reviewed the Xubuntu
sections of the magazine, didn't ever see the mistaken LTS claim in
the Ubuntu section until after it was published.

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-07-29 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 We were recently approached by Sonny Gaviola who is seeking to publish
 a special edition of their magazine and writes: I have an idea to
 make a special part (with its own layout) of this issue, devoted to
 Xubuntu. It would be a guide for people already familiar with Linux,
 and trying to choose proper distribution for their needs. We could
 show Xubuntu advantages and greatest application working in Xfce
 environment.

Just a quick follow-up here, most of the authors should have received
their copies of the magazine, and it's now available for purchase:

http://www.linuxidentity.com/us/index.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=5067

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Re: Minimum System Requirements

2013-07-16 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Stephen Michael Kellat
 skel...@fastmail.net wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 06:55:51 +0400
 Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjja...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad)
  amjja...@gmail.comwrote:
 [snip]

 Launchpad Bug #1200467 has been filed with respect to this.

 Stephen Michael Kellat


 As per the last comment on this bug:
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1200467

 New bug has been filed:

 https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/1201841

Thank you for volunteering to run these minimum spec tests! I think
it's been a while since anyone has done this. Are you doing the tests
with virtual machines? Could you document how you do the tests and
what criteria you use so they can be replicated? (ie - what
applications you open during tests, how you judge whether the
experience is satisfactory or not)

For now I think we just want the facts as to what Xubuntu can run and
make updates to the website accordingly. We'll want keep discussions
about zRAM as a separate issue (and another bug, it's a technical
change and requires work from our developers, it's not a
website/documentation issue).

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Re: Contact Xubuntu

2013-07-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Ali Linx (amjjawad) amjja...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I have noticed there is no mention to the general or user Xubuntu Mailing
 List whereas almost on every page, there is a mention of the Development
 Mailing list. We all know that the general/user mailing list is important
 for the user who are not interested to join the development discussions and
 seek some help/support.

I assume you mean there is no mention on our wiki? Please read
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu

As explained there, our wiki is designed specifically to be
collaboration space for current contributors to the Xubuntu project,
it's not designed to be a user-facing space. This is a specific
decision we made a few cycles ago when we realized there was
unnecessary and unmaintained overlap between our wiki and our website.
We worked pretty hard to reduce the number of pages we maintain on the
wiki.

Our user-facing space is Xubuntu.org itself, which has very clear help
links which include to our IRC channel, mailing list and more.

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Getting started with the 12.04 Documentation Stable Release Update

2013-07-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
Hi everyone,

There has been interest in helping with the docs lately, so we wanted
to get rolling with the Stable Release Update (SRU) to the 12.04
documentation.

As Pasi explained here[0], we rewrote the documentation in 12.10 cycle
and now wish to copy those changes back to our 12.04 documentation,
which was never properly updated. This will require you to go through
the documentation to find anything that is different between 12.10 and
12.04, for instance: in 12.10 we dropped GIMP and Gnumeric so we
didn't cover it, but we did have them in 12.04 so we will want those
applications mentioned. Another example would be some menu items
having been moved around or have changed labels. Note that it is
definitely OK to review and copy relevant parts from the old
documentation to the new one.

Pasi has gone ahead and created this new branch for 12.04 to work on:

To get the new 12.04 documentation branch where we will push all the
changes, run the following command: bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs/precise
xubuntu-docs-precise

To get the old 12.04 documentation branch, run the following command:
bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs/natty-oneiric xubuntu-docs-precise-old

This will leave you with two directories, xubuntu-docs-precise and
xubuntu-docs-precise-old. You will be now able to compare the
documentation where applicable. Just remember commit the changes to
the new documentation branch.

As with the regular documentation contributions Launchpad merge
requests are more than welcome. If you aren't familiar with those but
are willing to help, be in touch with us and we'll make the magic
happen.

Please feel free to discuss changes or questions here on the mailing
list or on IRC in #xubuntu-devel. On IRC knome (Pasi) or pleia2
(myself) should be able to help you with your questions :)

[0] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-July/009107.html

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Re: Getting started with the 12.04 Documentation Stable Release Update

2013-07-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Jack Fromm jjf...@gmail.com wrote:
 Lyz, do I remember hearing that this will get deployed with a point release?
 If that's correct, when is our freeze date?

Great question. The point release is on August 22rd so I *believe* we
should shoot for having our docs finished 2 weeks before that, August
8th. This will give time to packagers to get it in and fix any final
major bug fixes.

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Re: Getting started with the 12.04 Documentation Stable Release Update

2013-07-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Jack Fromm jjf...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I guess this is not like the testcases where we can assign ourselves a
 bug.  What would be the preferred method of letting others know what we're
 working on?  Just announce it here?

Yeah, coordination via the mailing list should work fine for this.

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Re: Xubuntu Catch up

2013-07-03 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote:
 On 02/05/13 14:09, Laura Czajkowski wrote:
 Aloha Xubuntu Lead,

 The Community Council is continuing it's catch up with boards and councils 
 within the Ubuntu project to make sure there is nothing slipping through
 the cracks when it comes to staying in touch. It's be pretty informal,just 
 updates and to let us know if there is anything you wish to bring
 to our attention.

 We'd like for some representatives of your board to join us at our next 
 meeting for this on Thursday, 4th July, 2013 at
 17:00 UTC.

 Thanks

 Laura Czajkowski On behalf of the Community Council


 Hey Laura (+ CC: Xubuntu developer mailing list),

 and thanks for the invitation! We will definitely join you on July.

Just a quick reminder that this is coming up tomorrow :)

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Re: What's expected?

2013-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote:
 Our submissions/gallery should probably also note that we take no
 responsibility over the contents licensing issues whatsoever, even if it's
 partly pre-moderated, just to be on the safe side. Elizabeth, comments?

+1

Text should be something like: Users making submissions to this
gallery have agreed to only upload Creative Commons licensed images.
Please contact a moderator if you find your artwork in this gallery
and it is being used in a way which is inconsistent with this
license.

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Re: Project: Community Computers/ Xubuntu Feedback

2013-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Jeff Hanson jephhan...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wanted to quickly share our project with you: projectcc.org
 There is lots of info on our website, but basically we set up computer
 labs for non-profits around the developing world and many in Milwaukee, WI
 where we are from.
 We're working around our 17th or 18th project at the moment (Here's a
 little map/photos: http://www.projectcc.org/?page_id=624) and every computer
 we've donated has been running, you guessed it! Xubuntu!

Hi Jeff,

This is really cool! I've been hoping to do some interviews of
organizations that are using Xubuntu for xubuntu.org (who you are,
what you do, why Xubuntu is valuable to your org), would you be
interested in such an interview? :)

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Re: Project: Community Computers/ Xubuntu Feedback

2013-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Elfy ub.u...@btinternet.com wrote:
 On 26/06/13 23:07, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph wrote:
 This is really cool! I've been hoping to do some interviews of
 organizations that are using Xubuntu for xubuntu.org (who you are,
 what you do, why Xubuntu is valuable to your org), would you be
 interested in such an interview? :)

 Thanks for jumping in here.

 I'm bad - not very social platform orientated - so can never really point
 properly - they are where?

Where would the interviews go? It's not related to social media about
it, just a blog post on our website (just like our FAQ, releases and
other posts).

Of course we would spread these posts out to our social media stuff
like we always do :)

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Re: What's expected?

2013-06-25 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Bruno Benitez gridc...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you or any other one want to have access to dA's group admin area you
 need to ask pleia2 if she says its OK to grant you access ill do it.

The following folks have volunteered and been engaged throughout, so
are green-lighted by me:

Joan Advincula
Rich Dennis
Dave Pearson

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Re: Proposal: Desktop of the Week Gallery

2013-06-18 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Rich Dennis amerig...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm new to this, so what exactly does this mean?


 Image resolution

 Screenshots with any screen resolution are fine, as long as as an original
 and uncompressed version is included.


 Isn't the original and uncompressed version what's going to be extracted
 for the screenshot?
 Just curious.

If the user saves it as a compressed jpg file, it will end up looking
pixelated and not very nice. We don't want that :)

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Re: Proposal: Desktop of the Week Gallery

2013-06-14 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 2. Submission guidelines

I've started putting together submission guidelines here:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/14kydHZgJvt7N_8TWCbys_fjmaSr3nUAT6LV3uV4nEeU/edit

Please email me your Google account email address if you wish to have
edit access, I wanted to make sure we have our basic legal bases
covered but I don't actually want to do all of this :)

 3. At least 2 people who can volunteer to review submissions and
 commit to providing submissions to the web team for putting them up on
 the site in a timely manner.

It sounds like we have a few people interested in participating! Since
GridCube is all ready to accept via deviantART, maybe we start with
that? Please feel free to get together yourselves and see if this will
work, or brainstorm other ideas for submissions.

I'll work with knome to figure out how we want to handle this on
xubuntu.org itself.

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Re: Proposal: Desktop of the Week Gallery

2013-06-10 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:04 AM, Joan Advincula mj.advinc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't exactly know how to write a formal proposal but as I have been
 informed, given my interest in Xubuntu.org having a Desktop of the Week
 gallery, I should inform the team about it in some form of a proposal.

Thank you for taking the time to write this! I've been super swamped
with work lately so just getting to reply to this now...

 I propose that there be a Desktop of the Week screenshot gallery in
 Xubuntu.org.

 It doesn't have to be center-stage for all Xubuntu screenshots but it would
 be nice if it could sit right on the homepage. Not the entire gallery but
 just the particular desktop for the week. It should occupy the same space
 that the official Xubuntu screenshots is now occupying.

 If not, the gallery could be placed in this page:
 http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/, right next to the official Xubuntu
 screenshots gallery.

 As to how to gather the needed screenshots, we'd first have to gather some
 from you guys, the Xubuntu dev team, then the general Xubuntu community.

 Before the first of the feature is ever published, we need to be able to
 gather up enough images, then we can keep going.

 If there's a different person required for maintaining this gallery besides
 the person already maintaining the official screenshots, I would gladly
 volunteer.

 Thank you.

I think this is a great idea, some comments about what I think we'll need:

1. Submission method

This can be flickr, deviantart, email so-and-so - or a combination
of these things. This would be a submission for review, not something
that would automatically be put up on our site.

2. Submission guidelines

Some people put some pretty offensive stuff on their desktops as their
backgrounds :) We'll want to write up some guidelines to make sure
people know their screenshots should Safe For Work and make sure those
who volunteer to review understand these guidelines.

Also included in this should be a license, confirmation that they have
permission to share the background image (either they own it or the
license of the image allows it to be shared as part of a screenshot)
and their agreement that we can use their screenshot on our website.

3. At least 2 people who can volunteer to review submissions and
commit to providing submissions to the web team for putting them up on
the site in a timely manner.

And I'd suggest we start off saying Featured desktop rather than of
the week since we all get busy and I could easily see the weekly slot
slipping :)

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Re: Magnet links

2013-05-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Jackson Doak nosk...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 to my knowledge, all clients do. vuze and transmission (the default) has
 capabilities for both.
 The extent of work is 30 minutes by one person to make a magnet link and put
 it on the website.
 Implementing this would give us one more thing to be the first to do.

Is this 30 minutes of work that would have to be done every time a new
iso is spun up (so, daily for dev images)? Are you include time to
test these in the 30 minutes? And does it require editing of the
.torrent file that the release team publishes?

I'm wondering if this is a discussion better held Ubuntu-wide rather
than just being done for a single flavor, with the maintenance
overhead falling solely upon us. I'm also wondering on our end if
we're trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist, and spending
precious time doing it (even if we only update them upon release,
release day is already quite insane with us for the number of things
we have to update and limited people power!). I haven't seen evidence
that a lot of people download a .torrent and believe it's an .iso
image (or how this would solve that - an error if they don't have a
torrent client? wouldn't that cause them to believe they can't
download it at all?)

As an aside, since I run all my Ubuntu torrents on a headless server I
prefer access to the .torrent link so I can just wget it on my server.
I had no idea what a magnet link was until reading this thread and am
still not fully clear on the benefit.

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Re: Xubuntu magazine articles

2013-05-17 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach Joseph
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:18 AM, James Freer jessejazza3...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't mean to hijack a thread but i was wondering which mag this is
 for. Is this for a new Xubuntu mag or the Full Circle one? [I regret
 to say that i've only started reading the Full Circle one and it's an
 excellent read].

It's a special issue about Ubuntu flavors published by the folks of
http://linuxidentity.com/ (and it will be in English).

We'll be sure to let the list know once we have more publishing
details so folks who are interested can buy a copy :)

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Re: Time for new challenge and fun :)

2013-04-15 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 a facebook group where the only thing that happens is people compare conky
 configs,

Which facebook page are you referring to?

The one the team runs has a lot of support activity since it's a user
space (nothing about conky that I recall):

http://www.facebook.com/xubuntuusers

 a twitter that posts once a month

If anyone wishes to help with activity here, it's quite welcome :) You
can give us links in #xubuntu-devel to share on twitter and our press
page, or send them here, or if you have other ideas to increase
activity.

 and a G+ group that i'm not even
 sure exists.

We have two places on G+:

A page (which used to be more active, but the owner got busy I think
and I just post pretty much what's on twitter):
https://plus.google.com/u/1/112064450121097287690/posts

And just recently, the Xubuntu community which is pretty active for
support: https://plus.google.com/communities/108369189560969273265

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Richard Dennis rden...@shorelancs.com wrote:
 OK. That's clear enough. I got started last night and will keep working
 today. Will email it to you as a Libreoffice document.

Thanks! The etherpad is up again, can you start moving your work over
to that? (we also have a 2nd person adding some content to this
article, so using the collaborative editor is important :))

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Rich Dennis amerig...@gmail.com wrote:
 If no one else has volunteered for this, I'll try to do it.
 If somebody could resend the email with requirements, etc, I'll try to write
 something up.

What is your launchpad username? I can add you to the etherpad team
and give you a link to the document which has notes of exactly what we
need :)

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-04-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Dennis rden...@shorelancs.com wrote:
 No, I was waiting for an emailed reply, but I'll get started on it tonight.
 How many words does this need to be? Screenshots? General guidelines,
 anything?
 Please let me know. I'll get started, email you what I have tomorrow, and
 you can critique.

Oops, sorry about that. All the guidelines we have are here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

Essentially: Each article should be 2 to 8 printed pages, each page
should expect to have have 2500 characters and 2 screen shots/images.
2500 characters ends up being about 500 words, so the article should
be at least 1000 words.

Screenshots are great, just make sure they are done with a pristine
desktop (default theme, background, etc). If you aren't able to do
this, just leave a comment in the text of the article saying you need
someone to make the screenshot and I'll take care of it when I do the
screenshots for my own articles.

Looks like the etherpad is still down :( hopefully it'll come back by
tomorrow...

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-04-06 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Shawn Nguyen shavvnnngu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've gotten some content into the xfce article, but I am having conflicting
 schedule issues and will not be able to complete it on time, if anyone has
 extra input to the desktop environment please add to the article, thanks!

Thanks Shawn, your work is a great start, we'll work on it this weekend.

If anyone has time this weekend, we could really really use help
writing the Managing Themes and Styles (include installing locally
and globally) article, which we never managed to get anyone assigned
to.

Link to the etherpad at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

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Re: Connecting wi-fi during install

2013-04-03 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Scott Moore scottb...@hotmail.com wrote:
 While installing the ISO yesterday for a daily test, I learned that an
 ethernet cable had gone bad. The laptop then tried to connect to wi-fi
 during the installation. However, it did not attempt to connect until after
 the screen that asks me to make sure I'm connected to the internet in order
 to download updates during the installation. After I connected to the
 wireless router, it did go back to that screen and gave me the opportunity
 to check the box to download updates. As a suggestion, I would have the
 installer prompt the user to connect to wi-fi before presenting the option
 to download updates. In other words, when the only NIC available is a
 wireless NIC, the screen called Wireless should come before the screen
 called Preparing to Install Xubuntu.

Thanks for testing, Scott!

Were you able to complete the install? If so, please run:

ubuntu-bug ubiquity

To submit the bug with this explanation to the installer package
(ubiquity). This will get it to the right people who can look into it
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Re: Electing the new project lead

2013-04-02 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 do i need to have signed the code of conduct?

We don't strictly state this in our Strategy Document, but since
Xubuntu is part of the Ubuntu community which is governed by the CoC
we expect our members to adhere to it, and certainly our leaders. So,
I'd say yes.

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Xubuntu Project Lead Nomination: Pasi Lallinaho (knome)

2013-04-01 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

I think we've made a lot of great modernizing progress in these past
couple years, so I'm nominating Pasi Lallinaho (knome) to continue
serving as XPL for these next two cycles.

Nominee wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PasiLallinaho/XPL2013

I have received his consent to send in this nomination :)

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Re: Synaptic in 13.04

2013-03-29 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Colorwheel OS d...@colorwheel-os.com wrote:
 I don't know if I missed the memo, but... where's Synaptic?

Synaptic hasn't been included for several releases, were you expecting
it for some reason?

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-03-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

Just got notes back from the magazine editor, we can begin writing! I
liked Jackson's idea for collaboratively editing them all. Each of us
will still write our own, just have it available as a collaborative
document either with Google Docs or pad.ubuntu.com just in case we get
busy/pulled way or whatever we'll at least have a start (if you aren't
a member of the team that can edit things on pad.ubuntu.com you can
request to be added, I'm an admin of the etherpad launchpad team).

Each article should be 2 to 8 printed pages, each page should expect
to have have 2500 characters and 2 screen shots/images.

For reference, he also wrote:

Please remember to keep community and technical subjects wisely balanced.
First, we'd like to convince people to Xubuntu. When they find this OS
exciting - we can show them a community path.
Anyway, I consider an article Experiences, challenges and the reasons
I settled on Xubuntu as a technical one :)

As a reminder, here's the list of articles:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

If you see one that's Unassigned please volunteer to write it! And
it looks like we could use a couple more get excited about Xubuntu
articles :)

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi Jackson,

 I sent an email off to the magazine editor to get approval on our
 article list and to get some clarification as to page/article length
 (how many words per page, etc). Thanks for the nudge, I just sent a
 follow-up email so hopefully we'll have word soon.

 Once I hear back I can give the green light to start writing. Making
 etherpads for collaborative work is a good idea.

 On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 what's happening with this? anything new?
 i'll make a pad to write the join xubuntu testing article.
 we should make a pad for each, so we can all see and edit the articles.


 On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Shawn Nguyen shavvnnngu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  I'd be glad to expand on navigating around Xfce in general (from
  applications to shortcuts to the low-key panel). Seems like Xfce is the
  only
  DE that is comparable to gnome2 nowadays (maybe even better?) in terms
  of
  usability and looks! I know there are alternatives for better
  performance
  and customization, but there are always trade offs! Xfce makes it easy
  to
  have a 'nice' DE that is responsive and lightweight without much
  tweaking,
  if any.

 This would be great! I've added you to the wiki and assigned you that
 topic:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

 I'm working with the editor to get some details on page/article length
 and to confirm that we're on the right track topic-wise. Once that's
 firmed up I'll give the OK to have folks start writing! :)

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Re: There are two idea to improve Xubuntu, we need them on 13.04

2013-03-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Abderraouf Adjal
abderraouf.ad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello
 There are two idea to improve Xubuntu
 One:
 at the file managet (thunar) add make all files executable . And not only a
 particular file type.
 Two:
 Add graphical interface to insert the proxy.

I see you've sent this same message[0] to the file manager project
list, thunar-dev. That is the appropriate place for this discussion.

We're downstream from them, while we can work on bug fixes, adding
features to the software included in Xubuntu is generally outside our
scope.

[0] http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004976.html

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Re: Please Remove those default ridiculous games.

2013-03-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Abderraouf Adjal
abderraouf.ad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello.
 I have a suggestion please focus it.
 Please Remove those default ridiculous games.
 MAKE IT COOL, LIKE FUDUNTU ;D

Calling software we include and people spend time working on
ridiculous is rude and not constructive.

If you wish to see changes in the default games, please offer some
solid suggestions for games you wish to see, along with rationale so
we can work with you to consider them next cycle. Keep in mind that we
have a Strategy Document that you'll want to review to confirm that
they are appropriate: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Shawn Nguyen shavvnnngu...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd be glad to expand on navigating around Xfce in general (from
 applications to shortcuts to the low-key panel). Seems like Xfce is the only
 DE that is comparable to gnome2 nowadays (maybe even better?) in terms of
 usability and looks! I know there are alternatives for better performance
 and customization, but there are always trade offs! Xfce makes it easy to
 have a 'nice' DE that is responsive and lightweight without much tweaking,
 if any.

This would be great! I've added you to the wiki and assigned you that topic:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

I'm working with the editor to get some details on page/article length
and to confirm that we're on the right track topic-wise. Once that's
firmed up I'll give the OK to have folks start writing! :)

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Re: Beta 1 testing.

2013-03-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 could everyone start testing the beta 1 images

The beta1 images have been spun up for testing, so you'll want to use
this link to test:

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/261/builds

We've also published a blog post with some pointers about testing:

http://xubuntu.org/news/want-to-help-out-xubuntu-test-raring/

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Jarrod McCandless sgt...@harrisbb.com wrote:
 I'd love to help. I'm in no way a hard core programmer or kernel expert but
 I'm fairly decent with configuration and some of the more basic things. Let
 me know

Great, the field is wide open right now for proposals, so do you have
any specific ideas related to configuration or basic things you may be
particularly interested in writing about?

I've created a wiki page here to start putting ideas on:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

Thanks Jarrod!

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 i could try one, probably either getting people to test xubuntu daily's or a
 theme changeing one

Either one of these would be great, but I am leaning toward asking you
to write an article on testing the Xubuntu daily's since it's such an
important part of our development process and we very badly need
contributors, plus there are a limited number of people in our
community who can write this :)

Does anyone else want to write an article covering how to install
themes? Also might want to address the confusion folks have related to
the different Appearance and Window Manager settings.

I added both these to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Marketing/Magazine2013

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Shawn Nguyen shavvnnngu...@gmail.com wrote:
 As a long time Xubuntu user, I'd love to contribute! I don't have any
 specific topics in mind yet, but I have no problems talking about
 configurations xubuntu to fit a user's daily needs. I could also give some
 input on the intuitive UI of xfce...let me know!

Thanks for volunteering, Shawn!

I think it would be interesting to see an article showcasing input you
have on the intuitive UI of Xfce, the retirement of Gnome2 sure does
have a lot of people looking for a more classic desktop that many
have said Xfce satisfies.

As for configurations to meet daily needs, I'd be interested in
hearing your ideas in genera. Do you also think some of this could be
considered for inclusion in default Xubuntu? May be a good discussion
for another thread :)

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Re: Articles needed for a special edition of a magazine about Ubuntu Flavors

2013-02-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, David James deejaymob...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Elizabeth,

 I'm quite new to the world Linux and have actually just switched to Xubuntu
 from Linux Mint (Cinnamon).  I would be more than happy to write up my
 experiences, challenges and the reasons I settled on this distro.

 Let me know if this sounds like the type of thing you would be interested
 in...

This kind of user journey is a very interesting proposal. How long
have you been using Linux?

Thanks David!

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Xubuntu Team Meeting: January 24th at 15:00 UTC on #xubuntu-devel

2013-01-23 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

Just a quick reminder that we have a team meeting schedule for January
24th at 15:00 UTC on #xubuntu-devel on freenode.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20130124T15

Everyone is welcome to join. More details, including links to past
meeting minutes, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings

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Re: My wishes list

2012-12-29 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote:
 On 12/27/2012 01:58 AM, Benedek Imre wrote:
 - If the 'About' menu could show a stronger Xubuntu identity it does not
 eventuate system slow down.


 This is a fair point and we ought to look at this during the Raring cycle.

I can take this one as an action item, thanks Imre!

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Re: One more suggestion

2012-12-01 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 i forgot to add this earlier but why is the lock screen still so bad(when
 you close then reopen a laptop). the first time i saw it i though my pc was
 broken. this should be an easy thing to add

I'm not sure what you mean by so bad as I've not had a problem with
(my fiance did have a blink problem with his Xubuntu laptop when he
was using compiz, but that's not something the Xubuntu team really
supports). It may be worth submitting a bug report about.

That said, back in August one of the project members did a pretty
comprehensive evaluation of every screen locking mechanism available
in the repository and we came back to just using what we have because
none of the other options were better for 12.10.

If you find something better and are willing to submit a proposal of
it to the list we can take a look again.

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Re: Reviewing the documentation

2012-09-16 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Dan 'Da Man' heymr...@gmail.com wrote:
 What method are people using to render the source code at lp:xubuntu-docs or
 Pasi's code branch?

Pasi's branch, but we're in the middle of moving things around so
everything is appropriately settled for the ubuntu-doc team to look at
it since they are the ones who actually have to approve by Thursday
(we had to move it, but it looks like we'll have to move it again...)

Once we have a formal check-in place, we'll let you know.

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Xubuntu Community Meeting, Wednesday 19th September 15UTC

2012-09-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

The next Xubuntu Community Meeting will be held on Wednesday, 19th of
September at 15UTC:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20120919T15

As usual, the agenda can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings

We skipped a Beta 1 this time around, but we have the docs freeze on
September 20th and Beta 2 coming up on September 27th.

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Re: Reviewing the documentation

2012-09-13 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:03 PM, Dan 'Da Man' heymr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where are the DocBook conversions going to be housed/stored?  Are you using
 a script to do the conversion or will it be done manually?

It's being done manually.

The current docs live in bzr on on launchpad.net here:
https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs

We'll be doing merge proposals against that, Pasi has already done a
nice chunk of them in a bzr branch of his own, he can fill you in more
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Re: installer

2012-09-05 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Sep 4, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Jackson Doak doak.jack...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm a tester for the *buntus and was wondering if anyone knows what is
 causing bug 1010487 because it makes installing xubuntu near impossible, any
 ideas?

This was discussed in the -devel channel just this morning so people
are looking into it.

One tip - if you move your mouse over the screen to selected areas it
should show you the text and make it possible to complete the install,
even if not very pretty :)

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Documentation Rewrite Update

2012-08-19 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

Pasi Lallinaho has written a blog post explaining where we are with
the current documentation rewrite and explained how those who have
signed up to help with writing can pitch in now:

http://open.knome.fi/2012/08/17/working-on-the-xubuntu-documentation-rewrite/

We're still using the wiki that was set up, unfortunately there aren't
any simple tools for converting to Docbook that are currently
maintained, so this will be more of a manual process.

This all means that we really need to get the rewrite wrapped up with
in the next week or so if we want to have any hope of getting
editorial review and the conversion to Docbook done by September 20th.
We really need your help!

Thanks everyone, please feel free to ask if you have any questions.

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Re: Documentation; GO!

2012-08-11 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 3:01 AM, Paulo Ribeiro pa...@diffraction.pt wrote:
 Hello again,

 Over the weekend I managed to install the DocBookWiki application on a
 Ubuntu Server 10.04 machine, but unfortunately I couldn't get the
 application to work. I suspect that DocBookWiki is no longer compatible
 either with phpWebApp, which is one of the dependencies, or with PHP 5.

 Furthermore, the project isn't actively maintained for at least 4 years
 (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=b321594e0803040804l3807d216jfe00ae936f927206%40mail.gmail.comforum_name=doc-book-users),
 which limits the option of asking for support.

Thanks for spending the time on this!

 Interestingly, I found an old blog post by Mark Shuttleworth where he poses
 the same requirements as the Xubuntu Documentation project:

 http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/59

 There are many suggestions of tools to do the job in the comments, including
 the built-in DocBook support of MoinMoin, which sounds promising.

 Perhaps someone is already familiarized with one of the suggested tools and
 could give any advice about using them in the Documentation project?

I'm not sure such a person exists who is available right now :)

Looking at this project, it's quite a big one and docs freeze is on
September 20th so we really want to get moving forward soon so we can
get this in on time.

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Re: Documentation; GO!

2012-08-02 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:03 AM, Paulo Ribeiro pa...@diffraction.pt wrote:
 The first task of copying the documentation to the wiki seems practical and
 simple enough. I will be sure to help with that as time allows.

I tried to use some scripts to convert both docbook and html to wiki
syntax and it wasn't as straight forward as I had hoped. Before
spending too much time on this I would recommend coming up with a
methodology for what to copy over. Does a page look good and not need
updating? Maybe not copy that one over. Or maybe just copy over
sections you intend to work on?

It's also worth noting that while I set up the wiki, we don't have to
use it if people find it too cumbersome. If someone has better ideas
for how to collaborate on this or wants different software installed
that's perfectly fine (the server is running Debian 6.0). I can even
give folks shell accounts if you'd rather work directly with flat
html. All up to you.

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Re: Documentation; GO!

2012-08-02 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Paulo Ribeiro pa...@diffraction.pt wrote:
 I did a quick search and found a wiki application that allows displaying and
 editing DocBook documents online:

 http://sourceforge.net/projects/doc-book/

 I can check if this is a viable solution as soon as I have the time,

Oh, very cool! Thanks for taking the time to look into this, looking
forward to seeing what you find.

 or we
 could search for other similar tools that would allow us to work
 collaboratively directly over DocBook...

The goal at this stage is really making the docs easy to collaborate
on (manually editing docbook files isn't easy), but if we actually
could keep it all in docbook through the whole process, while keeping
it easy for people, that'd be fantastic.

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Re: Creating Visual Guidelines for Xubuntu

2012-07-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Santiago Roland srol...@lavabit.com wrote:
 I would be glad that someone point me in the right direction regarding
 topics like i mentioned. I did not know what specific steps to take
 and please tell me if i'm in the wrong mailing list, i'll try to
 follow your instructions and avoid being off topic.

I'll just note that discussion on changes is always welcome because
it's great to have feedback and not everyone is available during the
planning section of our cycle. Thank you!

However, these discussions are most effective when they are done
during our planning weeks for the release cycle, as by the time we're
where we are now (already in alpha3, heading toward beta1) it's too
late to consider major changes for the upcoming release and we're
primarily working on bug fixes and finalizing our current blueprints,
so we'll have to bookmark this email and consider it for the next
cycle.

For an idea of how our development cycle works, here's the example of
the timing for Quantal:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Goals/Quantal

And more details about actually submitting ideas and blueprints here:
http://xubuntu.org/news/brainstorming-the-12-10-release/

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Re: Hosting an Xubuntu Mirror at the OSU Open Source Lab

2012-05-21 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Trevor Bramwell bramw...@osuosl.org wrote:
 The Oregon State University Open Source Lab is interested in hosting an
 Xubuntu mirror. We currently already host a mirror for Ubuntu.

 Could you please provide us with information on becoming an official
 Xubuntu mirror? We would love to support the great work you all are
 doing! Thank you!

Thanks so much for this offer! Sorry it's taken a couple weeks to get
back to you, first people were busy with UDS, then it took me a few
days to track down the answer.

Do you have access to the current scripts doing the sync for the
Ubuntu mirrors? The script you'll want to use to sync Xubuntu will be
similar but instead of pulling from releases.ubuntu.com you'll want to
pull from the cdimages.ubuntu.com address (probably
http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ to just mirror xubuntu
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Re: website team - Xubuntu in the press

2012-05-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Pjotr Kan pliniusmi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 I saw this news item:
 http://www.nomachine.com/news-read.php?idnews=363

 Key quote:
 They are now able to access an easy-to-use Xubuntu desktop and all
 their critical business programs, including email and an open-source
 equivalent to Microsoft Office.

Thanks! This one looks very similar to (based upon?) the article here
on our Oneiric press page:

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/news/smooth-switch-open-source-mental-health-care-provider-rotterdam

So I'm not sure yet that we want to repeat it.

 Plus my own websites:

 English:
 http://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/xubuntu

 Dutch:
 http://sites.google.com/site/computertip/xubuntu

Great! Added both links to http://xubuntu.org/press/precise/

 On the official Dutch Ubuntu forum, Xubuntu 12.04 is a hit: many
 people are trying it and liking it:
 http://forum.ubuntu-nl.org/

Always nice to hear! Thanks for sharing. :)

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Re: mono-runtime cannot be installed

2012-04-19 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi Nikola,

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:02 AM, Nikola Velkovski nvelkov...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 I'd like to report problems with installing mono-runtime on Xubuntu 12.04
 x86 and because of that docky cannot be installed. Here's the info that I
 get when I try to install mono-runtime:

I just tried to duplicate your issue and wasn't able to (everything
installed fine).

I recommend running sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get
upgrade to get your system fully up to date and then trying again. I
suspect what happened here is you tried to install it while things
were slightly broken (it is in development, after all) or your sources
weren't completely up to date.

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Re: Resignation from Xubuntu Project

2012-03-19 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Charlie Kravetz
c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:
 Due to circumstances now surrounding the Xubuntu Project, I will no
 longer be able to participate in any capacity. For 18 months as Project
 Lead, I attempted to keep as many as possible involved with this
 project. Some of those individuals fought every attempt I made to
 better the project. Now, having observed the project from the sidelines
 for almost an entire release cycle, I find those individuals were
 actually playing some kind of games, for reasons I will never
 understand. As of the release of Precise Pangolin as Xubuntu 12.04, I
 am resigning any and all positions with the project. I wish the Xubuntu
 success in the future.

Since you say As of the release of Precise will you continue as
Testing Lead up until release? I'm certain we'll have more questions
and need more help as these deadlines keep coming.

Thank you for all your work, you were very welcoming to me when I
joined the project, it was a pleasure to meet you at UDS (two of
them!) and you continue to be a help and an inspiration as I expand my
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Re: For the website team - Xubuntu was in the press

2012-02-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ron Hiensch ron.hien...@xs4all.nl wrote:
 Xubuntu Linux desktops

Thanks Ron! Added to http://xubuntu.org/press/oneiric/

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Re: Xubuntu Website Sprint on Saturday December 3rd at 17:00 UTC

2011-12-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 This weekend, on Saturday, December 3rd at 17:00 UTC[0] the Xubuntu
 website team will be hosting our second Website Sprint in
 #xubuntu-devel on irc.freenode.net

Thanks to knome, madnick and GridCube for coming out to the sprint, we
identified the following work items:

 * knome to replace Xubuntu links with Useful Links which will
include Support Mailing List, Developer Tools, FAQ, Site Map
 * knome to adjust archives page to show stubs rather than full articles
 * pleia2 to put download country and links in html table on /get page
 * knome to implement design proposed here:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-November/008065.html
 * knome to review Meta in footer, remove or replace with other content
 * pleia2 to update /press page with 11.10 reviews
 * pleia2 to review contribute/ pages to reduce the amount of data
included on the website itself and instead link to respective team
wiki pages

We also need everyone to review the current http://xubuntu.org/about
page and ideas at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website/Drafts

And developers: knome created a new
http://wp.xubuntu.org/developertools/ - what else do you want to see
there? Keeping in mind that this should be a quick reference of tools
and development details should probably be on the wiki.

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Xubuntu Website Sprint on Saturday December 3rd at 17:00 UTC

2011-11-29 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,
This weekend, on Saturday, December 3rd at 17:00 UTC[0] the Xubuntu
website team will be hosting our second Website Sprint in
#xubuntu-devel on irc.freenode.net
Last time we ended up focusing on theme and display issues so we'd
like move on to content review, see
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website/Sprint for details.

If you participated in the sprint a week and a half ago, please review
the notes from that session to see if you have any tasks assigned to
you that you haven't yet completed:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-November/008056.html

Thanks everyone!

[0] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20111203T17

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Re: Xubuntu Website Sprint on Saturday November 19th at 22:00 UTC

2011-11-22 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Elizabeth Krumbach l...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 This weekend, on Saturday, November 19th, at 22:00 UTC the Xubuntu
 website team will be hosting a Website Sprint in #xubuntu-devel on
 irc.freenode.net

First off, thanks to knome, GridCube, bkerensa, beardygnome, SiDi and
olbi for attending and contributing!

Here's what we covered in the 2 hours of our sprint on Saturday:

Fixed links on front page pointing to old staging site
Moved top ten FAQ page from wiki to site
Created Articles category for non-news items
Identified some theme issues
Added screenshots to slideshow
Discussed format of /getxubuntu page
Discussed proposal for screenshots page
Edit /help page to add link to FAQ and AskUbuntu.com

Actions:
 * beardygnome to review and rewrite /about page, pleia2 will proof
 * knome to check in theme changes (done and submitted to IS for installation!)
 * pleia2 to schedule next next sprint and identify content for review

As for the next sprint, I'm proposing Saturday, December 3rd at 17:00 UTC

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Xubuntu Website Sprint on Saturday November 19th at 22:00 UTC

2011-11-15 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

This weekend, on Saturday, November 19th, at 22:00 UTC the Xubuntu
website team will be hosting a Website Sprint in #xubuntu-devel on
irc.freenode.net

The current site runs on Drupal and we will be moving to a
WordPress-based site soon. This sprint is intended to be a full,
community-involved, review of the current site content before we move
and to work through any issues we may have with the staging site
running on WordPress before we go live.

So, during this sprint we will:

 - Review todo list at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website
 - Submit bugs regarding content to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website
 - Discuss and review new WordPress theme and pages staged at
http://wp.xubuntu.org

Unable to attend? We'll be updating
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Website/Sprint throughout the week to
provide a full list of tasks we wish to get to during this sprint so
even if you're not available during the IRC-based sprint itself we
invite you to review that page to see what tasks we have available and
outstanding.

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Re: A word or few about near future

2011-10-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Phil Whitaker
xubuntu-de...@beardygnome.co.uk wrote:
 It works well on a bit older hardware too. doesn't really read too well in
 English.  I'd suggest either It works well on older hardware too. or It
 works quite well on older hardware too.

Actually, can we get rid of it entirely?

On the old site we worked to remove references to Xubuntu being
optimized to run on older hardware because there are concerns about
how well it actually does out of the box - too many reviews were being
written with this is supposed to be light-weight, and it's not
slants that weren't painting the distro in a great light. I think it
would be good to focus on how great of a multi-purpose distro it is in
general rather than mentioning older hardware and possibly setting
folks up for disappointment, particularly if their definition of
older differs from ours.

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Re: Fw: [xubuntu-users] Broken link on http://www.xubuntu.org/contribute/development

2011-09-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Charlie Kravetz
c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:
 The link on the page http://www.xubuntu.org/contribute/development to
 list of bounties is broken.  I could not find the email address of a
 webmaster so I'm giving you a heads up.

Thanks for forwarding this on. Bounties are obsolete so I went ahead
and just removed the line entirely.

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Re: Xubuntu.org Website Review - Part2

2011-07-27 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
 indentation.

 The fourth bullet point should link to https://launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs,
 not https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs.

Indeed! Fixed.

 The fifth bullet point should link to the wiki in question
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu?).

I don't think the wiki in question is Xubuntu and I really don't know
how wiki documentation translations work. Can someone else chime in
here?

 In the sixth bullet point there are two links to the LoCoTeams wiki, but the
 second one results in the message Redirected from page LoCo being
 displayed at the top of the page.  I suggest that we use the URL from the
 first link in the second one as well.

This is a recent change for that link, it now redirects to
loco.ubuntu.com - I've put that link in instead.

 Programming and Packaging (http://xubuntu.org/contribute/development)
 In the third bullet point, it refers to both ... an Xubuntu developer ...
 and ... a Xubuntu developer   Which is correct depends on how you
 pronounce Xubuntu (is there an official way to pronounce it, I didn't see
 anything on the website?), but we should stick to one or the other, as they
 can't both be correct.
 I pronounce it Zoo-buntu, so would say that ... a Xubuntu developer ...
 is correct, but I've also heard people call it Ex-ubuntu, which would make
 the other one the correct version.

Good catch! It's Zoo-buntu so a Xubuntu is correct.

 In the fifth bullet point, the list of bounties linked to
 (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/bounties) doesn't exist any more.  We need
 to update the link or drop the bullet point.

As far as I know these don't exist anymore. Does anyone else have an
update on this? I'm thinking we just drop it but I haven't yet in case
someone else has something to add.

 Other
 Is it right that Canonical own the copyright to the website's content?  I
 know they own the copyright to the name Xubuntu, but do we have to assign
 copyright for the website content to them, or could we hold it ourselves?

Good question, Kubuntu uses:

© 2010 Canonical Ltd. and the Kubuntu community.

So I'm inclined to do similar.

 Hope that helps.

It helps a ton! You rock! Thanks so much for doing this :)

 I'm happy to proof-read the WordPress version of the site
 before it goes live, if that's needed.

Excellent. Once we have the theme completed we'll start moving content
over (most of it will just be duplicated verbatim) and will have a
big, formal review then.

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Re: Xubuntu.org Website Review

2011-07-19 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Bruno Benitez gridc...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have to say that I agree on beardygnome's analisis of the site, and I
 would like to add that being a non-english speaker (spañish) I find the lack
 of different languages to choose the page to be rather dissapointing.

There is a confirmed bug for this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/797600

It's actually the last outstanding bug for the site.

 I do understand that keeping multiple languages on a same site that updates
 frequently is hard, so I wonder if it won't be possible to use the google
 translate tools to add a simple you are welcome, sorry we don't have a
 better solution feeling.

I don't have experience with translating sites and so we're exploring
our options for translation support in Wordpress when we move to that
later in the cycle. At the very least we'd like to do some kind of
revision control for pages so if translators want to do a translation
in their language they can base it upon a specific snapshot in time
of the site. This is also part of why we're doing this review, we want
everything updated so when we get to the point where we want to
translate we don't need to make many changes. A Google translate
option sounds like it's worth pursuing too.

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Re: Xubuntu.org Website Review

2011-07-18 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
 Xubuntu session or was there a time in supported
history when it was Xfce session?

 In the Dual Boot section, it states Since Xubuntu shares the ubuntu-base;
 this should be Since Xubuntu shares the Ubuntu-base.

Fixed.

 I hope to be able to review the team-specific pages this week.

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Re: Xubuntu marketing material

2011-07-07 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:25 AM, Pasi Lallinaho p...@shimmerproject.org wrote:
 the Xubuntu logos are available at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork (including SVG versions).

I went ahead and added this link to our static Marketing page on the
site (it's a shame it hadn't been there all along!)

http://www.xubuntu.org/contribute/marketing

 Right now, there is no specific web-marketing material (like banners),
 but I'd be happy to elaborate creating such banners, if you want those.
 This is a pending item for our new website anyway, so it does not hurt
 to be ready in time.

I'd love to see such things, right now on my site I just grabbed the
svg of the round Xubuntu logo and made a png for my site.

 What comes to screenshots, I assume the #xubuntu-devel IRC channel is a
 good place to ask for those. I assume we are going to have a bunch of
 screenshots in the new website as well. This far Elizabeth (pleia2 at
 IRC) has been creating most of the screenshots, but I'm sure others can
 help as well.

There is actually an outstanding site bug related to screenshots:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website/+bug/784158

To fix this bug we need screenshots of a more recent upgrade,
currently it has screenshots of synaptic in intrepid and an jaunty to
karmic upgrade, which is getting a bit stale :) Of course in order to
get this screenshot you need to install a Maverick system and get
screenshots of upgrading to Natty, which I haven't gotten around to
yet. If someone else wants to they're welcome to.

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Review of xubuntu.org content

2011-06-26 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi everyone,

Over the past couple months I've been working with the team to get all
our pages on xubuntu.org up to date. Most of the content bugs have
been fixed but we need more eyes reviewing the site.

In particular, we need to go through the pages linked here to make
sure everything is accurate: http://xubuntu.org/contribute

I worked with Charlie to update the Quality Assurance, Bugs and
Testing New Versions section, but for those of you active in the
other four areas if you could take a quick look at your sections to
make sure 1) the information is accurate 2) the information is
complete. If there is anything which needs to be changed please submit
a bug describing the change required so I can handle it:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website

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Re: Drupal theme od xubuntu.org

2011-05-30 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hi Martin,

2011/5/24 Martin Malý martin.m...@desineo.com:
 I'm an administrator of czech xubuntu web pages ( http://www.xubuntu.cz ).
 We would like to upgrade our Drupal site to Drupal 6 but we haven't got any
 theme for this version. Please can you do us a favour and send to
 mr.martin.m...@gmail.com your Drupal theme?

We're actually in the process of doing a test migration to wordpress
and creating a new theme.

However, if you want the old (well, current) Drupal theme you can find
it at lp:xubuntu-website
(https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/trunk)

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Re: Xubuntu Community Meeting - What's the best day / time?

2011-04-08 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Charlie Kravetz
c...@teamcharliesangels.com wrote:
 I am going to be happy to hold these meetings on any of these days. As
 for time, I am available and willing to have them between 14:00 UTC to
 23:00 UTC. I will even go later if need be. I would to see a time when
 the majority of us will be able to attend.

It's difficult for me to attend meetings prior to 16:00 (9AM here),
any time after that is fine. It doesn't matter which day.

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Fwd: Xubuntu-docs

2010-08-12 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
Hey folks,

In case anyone missed this Xubuntu-docs thread[0] over on ubuntu-doc
and wants to contribute, Matthew East has gone ahead and created an
Xubuntu docs branch for Maverick:

https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/maverick

[0] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-August/thread.html#15103

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From: Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com
Date: Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:56 PM
Subject: Xubuntu-docs
To: bdr...@ubuntu.com
Cc: Ubuntu Doc ubuntu-...@lists.ubuntu.com


Hi Benjamin,

I saw the below email in my bug mail (I'm afraid I'm rather behind
with it at the moment...) and thought I'd raise with you the status of
maintenance of xubuntu-docs. Traditionally this package has been
maintained in a bzr branch here:
https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs but since your upload of
9.10.2 the bzr branch is no longer up to date. I'd be happy to create
a maverick branch and update it if you could send me a patch or bundle
on the latest lucid branch with your changes.

At present as I understand it there is no one in the Ubuntu Docteam
taking care of xubuntu-docs. I wonder if you have any ideas about
whether you or any other members of the Xubuntu team would be
interested in contributing. If so I would be happy to help to
facilitate this or answer queries about how the docteam works.

I'm copying in Jim Campbell who was the single-handed maintainer of
xubuntu-docs for a long period and the docteam for any other ideas.



-- Forwarded message --
From: Launchpad Bug Tracker 422...@bugs.launchpad.net
Date: Sun, May 16, 2010 at 12:05 AM
Subject: [Bug 422500] Re: Add-applications mentions System-Administration
To: m...@mdke.org


This bug was fixed in the package xubuntu-docs - 9.10.2

---
xubuntu-docs (9.10.2) maverick; urgency=low

 [ Josh Holland ]
 * s/Enerprise/Enterprise/ in desktop-guide/internet/C/nm.xml (LP: #363365)

 [ Benjamin Drung ]
 * desktop-guide/internet/C/connecting.xml: Fix typo concfigured - configured;
   thanks to Pierre Slamich (LP: #386683).
 * desktop-guide/about-xubuntu/C/about-xubuntu.xml: Fix version numbers; thanks
   to Epirotes (LP: #357369).
 * desktop-guide/add-applications/C/add-applications.xml: Fix menu item
   location; thanks to Robert Wall for the patch (LP: #422500).
 * debian/control:
   - Bump standards version to 3.8.4.
   - Wrap and sort Build-Depends.
 * Switch to dpkg-source 3.0 (native) format.
 -- Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com   Sun, 16 May 2010 00:57:02 +0200

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/xubuntu-docs

** Changed in: xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
      Status: Confirmed = Fix Released

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Re: Team Reports - July 2010

2010-07-20 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Jim Campbell jwcampb...@gmail.com wrote:
 I saw your notice on identi.ca and re-tweeted it.  Hopefully we'll get
 some results out of that.

 It was a great idea to also get word out to the UNW and deviantArt groups,
 as well.

I also went ahead and blogged about this (should hit the planet
momentarily) and the session that Charles and Radomir did during
Ubuntu Developer week.

http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=3231
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/devweek1007/Xubuntu

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Re: Xubuntu team direction

2010-01-04 Thread Elizabeth Krumbach
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Pasi Lallinaho o...@knome.fi wrote:
 I understand that a complete consensus (and pleasing everyone) might not be
 something we can achieve with 3+ members (either), but it really gives me a
 more community-based feeling. And in the end, I'm only proposing 4 members,
 and there's not really a decent way of determining which team (leader)
 should not be in the council. If you have an idea which team/who should NOT
 be in the council, please point your finger on the team.

FWIW, size-wise, the standard 5 person council which includes a chair
who can break ties[0] in votes has worked very well for other teams.
It's still small enough to not be a bureaucratic hassle, but tends to
give good representation of the community, healthy discussions with
several viewpoints that hold official weight and doesn't put strain on
the council time-wise - in a 5 person council, it's ok if two members
are unavailable, quorum can still be met so decisions can be made and
the project moved forward.

Hope this helps.

[0] when taking into account absences and people abstaining, a 5
member council can have ties.

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