[Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Václav Šmilauer
Hi there,

what is the status of new wiki? As Janek said, the'yre getting out of
sync.

For the new domain name, why not something like yade-dem.org,
yade-project.org, yyaaddee.org, y4d3.org or similar?

Vaclav


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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Anton Gladky
yade-dem.org seems for me the best of it.
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2009/10/9 Václav Šmilauer eudo...@arcig.cz

 Hi there,

 what is the status of new wiki? As Janek said, the'yre getting out of
 sync.

 For the new domain name, why not something like yade-dem.org,
 yade-project.org, yyaaddee.org, y4d3.org or similar?

 Vaclav


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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Bruno Chareyre

Well, from my point of view the new wiki is now open for full use.

We have those two bugs :
1/ domain name
2/ certificate

I think (1) is really not a problem, but (2) is.

1/ If everybody thinks the current adress is really too long, we can buy 
a domain name (yes yade-dem.org sounds good), but what is the price?
2/ It is a matter of time for the certificate company to be integrated 
in firefox defaults. The current website is certified already.


In both cases, it shouldn't stop us from using the new wiki, since the 
two bugs can be solved in the future with no impact on the wiki itself.


Therefore, I strongly recommend that everybody update the new wiki. I'm 
not sure everybody will agree though.


What do you think guys?

Bruno



Václav Šmilauer a écrit :

Hi there,

what is the status of new wiki? As Janek said, the'yre getting out of
sync.

For the new domain name, why not something like yade-dem.org,
yade-project.org, yyaaddee.org, y4d3.org or similar?

Vaclav


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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Anton Gladky
I have just checked, it costs about 10EUR/year. But I checked it at
Ukrainian domain operator.

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2009/10/9 Bruno Chareyre bruno.chare...@hmg.inpg.fr

 Well, from my point of view the new wiki is now open for full use.

 We have those two bugs :
 1/ domain name
 2/ certificate

 I think (1) is really not a problem, but (2) is.

 1/ If everybody thinks the current adress is really too long, we can buy a
 domain name (yes yade-dem.org sounds good), but what is the price?
 2/ It is a matter of time for the certificate company to be integrated in
 firefox defaults. The current website is certified already.

 In both cases, it shouldn't stop us from using the new wiki, since the two
 bugs can be solved in the future with no impact on the wiki itself.

 Therefore, I strongly recommend that everybody update the new wiki. I'm not
 sure everybody will agree though.

 What do you think guys?

 Bruno



 Václav Šmilauer a écrit :

  Hi there,

 what is the status of new wiki? As Janek said, the'yre getting out of
 sync.

 For the new domain name, why not something like yade-dem.org,
 yade-project.org, yyaaddee.org, y4d3.org or similar?

 Vaclav


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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Janek Kozicki
Václav Šmilauer said: (by the date of Fri, 09 Oct 2009 10:10:00 +0200)

 Hi there,
 
 what is the status of new wiki? As Janek said, the'yre getting out of
 sync.
 
 For the new domain name, why not something like yade-dem.org,
 yade-project.org, yyaaddee.org, y4d3.org or similar?

I recall that in the ancient voting (see ML archives) we wanted to
have 'open' in the name. Like yade open dem. yade-open-dem.org ?
That's long though

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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Janek Kozicki
Bruno Chareyre said: (by the date of Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:49:16 +0200)

 Let me be more clear :
 
 Who is opposed to using the wiki available on https://yade.hmg.inpg.fr 
 now (later redirected to from yade-dem.org or whatever), for future 
 improvements in the documentation?
 
 Bruno

If nobody answers, then nobody is against? ;-P

Look at recent changes: 

  
https://yade.hmg.inpg.fr/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesdays=30limit=500

  http://yade.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:RecentChangesdays=30

How many people created accounts on new wiki?


Hosting YADE wiki in Grenoble is a great idea. Our own server, we can
do anything with it. No unexpected downtime (expect if there is a
power failure, and it's weekend or two-month long summer holiday,
then Remi won't come to turn on the server). No advertisements.

This switch must be done in perfect way. Otherwise people will be lost.


We need to ask wikia.com administrators to make such redirect
in .htaccess file for yade.wikia.com :

  RedirectMatch 301 /(.*) http://new-yade-address.org/

This 301:

- tells google that all search results which applied to old address
  will now apply to new address. And all google points connected
  with old address will be linked to the new one.

- a person opening old address will be automatically redirected by
  the browser to the new one. People won't have a choice - they will
  HAVE to use the new one. Becasue the old one will redirect them to
  new one.

Asking wikia.com admins to change this redirect later from
https://yade.hmg.inpg.fr to http://new-yade-address.org/ will cause
some extra trouble.

My conclusion: get the domain name first.

We could do some voting on domain names, heheh.

* ya.de
* y4d3.org
* yade-dem.org
* yyaaddee.org
* open-yade.org
* yade-project.org
* yade-code.org
* yade-open-dem.org

and collect more naming proposals :)

http://ya.de is unused currently - I like this one :)

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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Bruno Chareyre




We need to ask wikia.com administrators to make such redirect
in .htaccess file for yade.wikia.com :

  RedirectMatch 301 /(.*) http://new-yade-address.org/

This 301:

- tells google that all search results which applied to old address
  will now apply to new address. And all google points connected
  with old address will be linked to the new one.

- a person opening old address will be automatically redirected by
  the browser to the new one. People won't have a choice - they will
  HAVE to use the new one. Becasue the old one will redirect them to
  new one.

  
I didn't know wikia would accept to redirect outside their own server. 
If so, this is great.



Asking wikia.com admins to change this redirect later from
https://yade.hmg.inpg.fr to http://new-yade-address.org/ will cause
some extra trouble.

  
Not sure, since the future yade-xxx.org would just redirect to the 
current https adress as well (or I missed a point?), so...



My conclusion: get the domain name first.
  

... no need to wait.


We could do some voting on domain names, heheh.

* ya.de
* y4d3.org
* yade-dem.org
* yyaaddee.org
* open-yade.org
* yade-project.org
* yade-code.org
* yade-open-dem.org

  

I vote for  yade-open-dem.org

Bruno

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Re: [Yade-dev] new wiki DNS

2009-10-09 Thread Anton Gladky
ya.de is really cool. But not sure about German rules for registering such
domains.
I mean, probably, it is necessary to have a registered trade mark ya or
something like that.
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2009/10/9 Václav Šmilauer eudo...@arcig.cz


  have 'open' in the name. Like yade open dem. yade-open-dem.org ?



 I think it was just you what was pushing the open part.
 yade-open-dem.org is long about the same as yade.hmg.inpg.fr, right?

 I think http://ya.de is really cool!



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