Re: [Yade-users] [Question #693769]: The whole view becomes very large at the end of a triaxial test

2020-11-02 Thread Leonard
Question #693769 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/693769

Status: Answered => Solved

Leonard confirmed that the question is solved:
Thanks Jan Stránský, that solved my question.

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #693769]: The whole view becomes very large at the end of a triaxial test

2020-11-02 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #693769 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/693769

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
> So I think some particles go out of the walls.

yes, the picture as well as numbers suggest this

> And just a curiosity, From the results I got, the stress-strain
response and volumetric response have not been affected by this
situation.

It depends on details. If one particle "flies away", then it is
reasonable that it does not have much influence..

> Does it mean that I can basically ignore this problem?

It depends on details :-) and other circumstances, but most importantly
it is up to you :-)

cheers
Jan

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #693769]: The whole view becomes very large at the end of a triaxial test

2020-11-02 Thread Leonard
Question #693769 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/693769

Status: Answered => Open

Leonard is still having a problem:
Hi Jan,
Thanks for your reply.

> check use aabbExtrema()
The initial size of my model is (vector3(0,0,0), vector3(0.07,0.14,0.07)) by 
using aabbExtrema(),
The aabbExtrema of Fig2 shows is (vector3(0,0,0.05),vector3(0.126,2.7,0.078)). 
So I think some particles go out of the walls.

> what "rigid wall boundary" is?
Sorry for having not clearly described it.
The walls I defined in my model are as that used in [1] for triaxial simulation:
mn,mx=Vector3(0,0,0),Vector3(0.07,0.14,0.07) 
walls=aabbWalls([mn,mx],thickness=0,material='FrictMat')

 "penetrate" mean "go through" in my question.
According to your suggestion, I think the time step could be the reason.

And just a curiosity, From the results I got, the stress-strain response
and volumetric response have not been affected by this situation. Does
it mean that I can basically ignore this problem?

Thanks

[1]https://gitlab.com/yade-dev/trunk/blob/master/examples/triax-tutorial
/script-session1.py

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Re: [Yade-users] [Question #693769]: The whole view becomes very large at the end of a triaxial test

2020-11-01 Thread Jan Stránský
Question #693769 on Yade changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/693769

Status: Open => Answered

Jan Stránský proposed the following answer:
Hello,

> the reason why I got what Fig2 shows may because that some tiny
particles have been ejected away from the main model

sounds like the most probable reason...

> I am not sure about this

please make sure :-)
something like [1]

> all my particles are generated in the rigid wall boundaries which
means they would not leave out of this boundary. Particles will not
penetrate the rigid wall I think.

"generating particles in the rigid wall boundaries" is NO guarantee that
"they would not leave out of this boundary" NOR that "particles will not
penetrate the rigid wall".

It depends on many factors:
- what "rigid wall boundary" is. wall ? box? what thickness? ...
- what "penetrate" mean (the particles has some penetration by DEM definition, 
recall i.geom.penetrationDepth). If it means "go through", see below
- simulation itself (difficult to say without any code)
   - tiny particles has higher probability to jump across wall without contact 
detection
   - might be influenced by time step
- material parameters (mainly stiffness)
- ...

cheers
Jan

[1] https://yade-dem.org/doc/yade.utils.html#yade._utils.aabbExtrema

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[Yade-users] [Question #693769]: The whole view becomes very large at the end of a triaxial test

2020-11-01 Thread Leonard
New question #693769 on Yade:
https://answers.launchpad.net/yade/+question/693769

Hi,

I am working on a triaxial compression test. Normally, the test ends with the 
view like Fig1 shows in [1], in which the model located at the middle of the 
view space. However, some times I got the situation like  Fig2 shows in [1], in 
which the whole view space became very large so that the model looks very small.

Fig1 and Fig2 are just for illstration of my problem, the two figures came from 
different models. Actually, there are additional tiny particles in the model of 
Fig2, so I thought the reason why I got what Fig2 shows may because that some 
tiny particles have been ejected away from the main model. I am not sure about 
this because all my particles are generated in the rigid wall boundaries which 
means they would not leave out of this boundary. Particles will not penetrate 
the rigid wall I think.

Do you have any ideas for avoiding this problem?

Thanks
Leonard

[1]https://we.tl/t-fEElfCnqgZ

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