Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: Seriously needed features.

2006-12-18 Thread George Hotelling
On Dec 18, 2006, at 7:58 PM, magnoliasoutherly wrote:

> --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "Larson, Timothy E."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> AFAICT, these are all implemented browser-side.  If you want these
>> things, use a browser that does them.  I am perfectly happy using del
>> with Firefox, Opera, and Camino and the features they provide.  We  
>> don't
>> need del to try to reimplement browser-side features with "clever
>> tricks" for users that don't have them; del needs to focus on what it
>> does best.
>
> This has the subject line from my message in it, but you're addressing
> AFAICT and I've no idea who that is.
>
> If me, then I hate to say it, but no. These features I'm requesting
> are not available or do not work with other extensions. I use Firefox
> and because I'm using a Delicious Firefox extension that Delicious has
> made themselves, I'm requesting features for this extension. It is
> fluid and not unreasonable in the least. Why use more extensions to
> get features for the original extension?
>
> I agree Delicious needs to do what it does best, but it needs to be
> more user friendly and take into account why users use various  
> browsers.

You may have better luck requesting features on the discussion list  
for the Firefox extension - http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ 
delicious-firefox-extension/

George

PS. AFAICT means "As Far As I Can Tell"
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[ydn-delicious] Re: Seriously needed features.

2006-12-18 Thread magnoliasoutherly
--- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "Larson, Timothy E."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> AFAICT, these are all implemented browser-side.  If you want these
> things, use a browser that does them.  I am perfectly happy using del
> with Firefox, Opera, and Camino and the features they provide.  We don't
> need del to try to reimplement browser-side features with "clever
> tricks" for users that don't have them; del needs to focus on what it
> does best.

This has the subject line from my message in it, but you're addressing
AFAICT and I've no idea who that is. 

If me, then I hate to say it, but no. These features I'm requesting
are not available or do not work with other extensions. I use Firefox
and because I'm using a Delicious Firefox extension that Delicious has
made themselves, I'm requesting features for this extension. It is
fluid and not unreasonable in the least. Why use more extensions to
get features for the original extension? 

I agree Delicious needs to do what it does best, but it needs to be
more user friendly and take into account why users use various browsers.



Re: [ydn-delicious] Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Hamish MacEwan
On 12/19/06, Joshua Schachter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Neither of those should have dissapeared. They work fine for me. Try
>  shift-reload to flush browser caches?

That didn't fix it, but logging out and logging back in did.  Please
forgive the false alarm.

>  Joshua


Hamish.
-- 
http://protopage.com/Hamish.MacEwan


RE: [ydn-delicious] Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Joshua Schachter
Neither of those should have dissapeared. They work fine for me. Try
shift-reload to flush browser caches?

Joshua 

> -Original Message-
> From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hamish MacEwan
> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 2:20 PM
> To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [ydn-delicious] Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 
> at 12PM PST
> 
> On 12/15/06, nick.nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >  Let me know if you have any
> >  questions.
> 
> 1. What happened to the roll-up triangles on tag bundles?
> 2. Where did the form input for tag selection go?
> 
> (Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-GB;
> rv:1.8.1) Gecko/2006101023 Firefox/2.0 on Windows 2000)
> 
> 
> Hamish.
> --
> http://protopage.com/Hamish.MacEwan
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [ydn-delicious] Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Hamish MacEwan
On 12/15/06, nick.nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Let me know if you have any
>  questions.

1. What happened to the roll-up triangles on tag bundles?
2. Where did the form input for tag selection go?

(Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-GB;
rv:1.8.1) Gecko/2006101023 Firefox/2.0 on Windows 2000)


Hamish.
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[ydn-delicious] Bookmarklet inspiration

2006-12-18 Thread onepauls
My department at work just started using BlueDot (www.bluedot.us) for
bookmark sharing. Although I hate to use a service other than
del.icio.us and their main service doesn't compete, I did find their
bookmarklet incredibly impressive.

>From what I can tell, it creates an iframe inside the current page and
uses that. Of course this all fails if you have javascript disabled,
but its way faster than the existing del.icio.us add bookmarklet. 
Something to take a look at.

Then again, if I determine it's possible, I'll probably try to create
this one myself. :) Cheers.



RE: [ydn-delicious] Re: Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Joshua Schachter
Dan, can you try shift-reloading? It sounds like the CSS got cached badly...

Joshua 

> -Original Message-
> From: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Geiser
> Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 6:59 PM
> To: ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ydn-delicious] Re: Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 
> at 12PM PST
> 
> Hello, All,
> After today's scheduled outage when I go to view any portion 
> of the del.icio.us web site it looks like crap.  Specifically 
> the site now looks I'm reading it in a text only browser like 
> Lynx.  I am using Internet Explorer 7 and everything was fine 
> up until this outage occured.
> 
> Here's an example of what the front page looks like to me 
> starting in the upper left hand corner...
> 
> "skip to content
> 
> del.icio.us
> your favorites | your network | subscriptions | links for you 
> (8) | post
> 
>your favorites del.icio.us the web 
> 
> logged in as LazloHollyfeld | settings | logout | help
> 
> hotlist ¨Cwhat's hot right now on del.icio.us HOT NOW
> 
> see also: popular | recent
> 
>  CNET Japan Blog - ½­u½¡Ì«ÀÉ / Kenn's 
> Clairvoyance£º¥°©`¥°¥ë¤¬Ÿo"³¤Ç¤Ï¤Ê¤¤
> ¤³¤È¤Ï¥¨¥ó¥¸¥Ë¥¢¤À¤±¤¬Öª¤Ã¤Æ¤¤¤ë save this people 101 first 
> posted by extreme.wave"
> 
> etc.
> 
> I'm not seeing any issues in Firefox or Opera.
> 
> Also, in the lower left hand corner of IE7 it now says "Done, 
> but with errors on the page" and when I click on that error 
> and then click show details it display the details of 3 
> different error messages (where before this afternoon there 
> were none)...
> 
> "Line: 2
> Char: 1
> Error: Syntax error
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/
> 
> Line: 415
> Char: 54
> Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/
> 
> Line: 419
> Char: 1
> Error: 'Mp3' is undefined
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/";
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan Geiser
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "nick.nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > As stated in our http://blog.del.icio.us";>blog today, 
> > we're planning a 2 hour outage at noon PST on Sunday.  The 
> outage is 
> > for implementing performance and stability upgrades, and I 
> just wanted 
> > to give this group the heads up.  While this outage is in 
> effect, you 
> > will not have access to your bookmarks (unless you are using the new
> > 1.3 release of the Firefox extension).  Let me know if you have any 
> > questions.
> > 
> > -n.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 


[ydn-delicious] Re: Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread nick.nguyen
That's extremely odd- I am looking at the site in IE and see no
issues.  I'll forward your email to the team and see if we can find a
reason for this.  Have you tried clearing your browser cache?  WE
didn't do anything that affects the hosting of css files, etc, but
that sounds like the most likely cause for your issue.

-n.

--- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Geiser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello, All,
> After today's scheduled outage when I go to view any portion of the 
> del.icio.us web site it looks like crap.  Specifically the site now 
> looks I'm reading it in a text only browser like Lynx.  I am using 
> Internet Explorer 7 and everything was fine up until this outage 
> occured.
> 
> Here's an example of what the front page looks like to me starting in 
> the upper left hand corner...
> 
> "skip to content
> 
> del.icio.us
> your favorites | your network | subscriptions | links for you (8) | post
> 
>your favorites del.icio.us the web 
> 
> logged in as LazloHollyfeld | settings | logout | help
> 
> hotlist ¨Cwhat's hot right now on del.icio.us 
> HOT NOW
> 
> see also: popular | recent
> 
>  CNET Japan Blog - ½­u½¡Ì«ÀÉ / Kenn's
Clairvoyance£º¥°©`¥°¥ë¤¬Ÿo"³¤Ç¤Ï¤Ê¤¤
> ¤³¤È¤Ï¥¨¥ó¥¸¥Ë¥¢¤À¤±¤¬Öª¤Ã¤Æ¤¤¤ë save this 
> people 101 
> first posted by extreme.wave"
> 
> etc.
> 
> I'm not seeing any issues in Firefox or Opera.
> 
> Also, in the lower left hand corner of IE7 it now says "Done, but with 
> errors on the page" and when I click on that error and then click show 
> details it display the details of 3 different error messages (where 
> before this afternoon there were none)...
> 
> "Line: 2
> Char: 1
> Error: Syntax error
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/
> 
> Line: 415
> Char: 54
> Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/
> 
> Line: 419
> Char: 1
> Error: 'Mp3' is undefined
> Code: 0
> URL: http://del.icio.us/";
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dan Geiser
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "nick.nguyen"  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > As stated in our http://blog.del.icio.us";>blog today,
> > we're planning a 2 hour outage at noon PST on Sunday.  The outage is
> > for implementing performance and stability upgrades, and I just wanted
> > to give this group the heads up.  While this outage is in effect, you
> > will not have access to your bookmarks (unless you are using the new
> > 1.3 release of the Firefox extension).  Let me know if you have any
> > questions.
> > 
> > -n.
> >
>




Re: [ydn-delicious] Re: Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Toby Elliott
That sounds like something went wrong in loading the css file. Try a 
force reload or clearing your cache.

Regards,
Toby Elliott
del.icio.us


On Dec 17, 2006, at 6:59 PM, Dan Geiser wrote:

> Hello, All,
>  After today's scheduled outage when I go to view any portion of the
>  del.icio.us web site it looks like crap. Specifically the site now
>  looks I'm reading it in a text only browser like Lynx. I am using
>  Internet Explorer 7 and everything was fine up until this outage
>  occured.
>
>  Here's an example of what the front page looks like to me starting in
>  the upper left hand corner...
>
>  "skip to content
>
>  del.icio.us
>  your favorites | your network | subscriptions | links for you (8) | 
> post
>
>  your favorites del.icio.us the web
>
>  logged in as LazloHollyfeld | settings | logout | help
>
>  hotlist ¨Cwhat's hot right now on del.icio.us
>  HOT NOW
>
>  see also: popular | recent
>
>  CNET Japan Blog - ½ u½¡Ì«ÀÉ / Kenn's 
> Clairvoyance£º¥°©`¥°¥ë¤¬Ÿo"³¤Ç¤Ï¤Ê¤¤
>  ¤³¤È¤Ï¥¨¥ó¥¸¥Ë¥¢¤À¤±¤¬Öª¤Ã¤Æ¤¤¤ë save this
>  people 101
>  first posted by extreme.wave"
>
>  etc.
>
>  I'm not seeing any issues in Firefox or Opera.
>
>  Also, in the lower left hand corner of IE7 it now says "Done, but with
>  errors on the page" and when I click on that error and then click show
>  details it display the details of 3 different error messages (where
>  before this afternoon there were none)...
>
>  "Line: 2
>  Char: 1
>  Error: Syntax error
>  Code: 0
>  URL: http://del.icio.us/
>
>  Line: 415
>  Char: 54
>  Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
>  Code: 0
>  URL: http://del.icio.us/
>
>  Line: 419
>  Char: 1
>  Error: 'Mp3' is undefined
>  Code: 0
>  URL: http://del.icio.us/";
>
>  Any ideas?
>
>  Thanks,
>  Dan Geiser
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>  --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "nick.nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>  >
>  > Hi all,
>  >
>  > As stated in our http://blog.del.icio.us";>blog today,
>  > we're planning a 2 hour outage at noon PST on Sunday. The outage is
>  > for implementing performance and stability upgrades, and I just 
> wanted
>  > to give this group the heads up. While this outage is in effect, you
>  > will not have access to your bookmarks (unless you are using the new
>  > 1.3 release of the Firefox extension). Let me know if you have any
>  > questions.
>  >
>  > -n.
>  >
>
>  
>   


[ydn-delicious] Re: Scheduled Outage on Sunday 12/17 at 12PM PST

2006-12-18 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All,
After today's scheduled outage when I go to view any portion of the 
del.icio.us web site it looks like crap.  Specifically the site now 
looks I'm reading it in a text only browser like Lynx.  I am using 
Internet Explorer 7 and everything was fine up until this outage 
occured.

Here's an example of what the front page looks like to me starting in 
the upper left hand corner...

"skip to content

del.icio.us
your favorites | your network | subscriptions | links for you (8) | post

   your favorites del.icio.us the web 

logged in as LazloHollyfeld | settings | logout | help

hotlist ¨Cwhat's hot right now on del.icio.us 
HOT NOW

see also: popular | recent

 CNET Japan Blog - ½­u½¡Ì«ÀÉ / Kenn's Clairvoyance£º¥°©`¥°¥ë¤¬Ÿo"³¤Ç¤Ï¤Ê¤¤
¤³¤È¤Ï¥¨¥ó¥¸¥Ë¥¢¤À¤±¤¬Öª¤Ã¤Æ¤¤¤ë save this 
people 101 
first posted by extreme.wave"

etc.

I'm not seeing any issues in Firefox or Opera.

Also, in the lower left hand corner of IE7 it now says "Done, but with 
errors on the page" and when I click on that error and then click show 
details it display the details of 3 different error messages (where 
before this afternoon there were none)...

"Line: 2
Char: 1
Error: Syntax error
Code: 0
URL: http://del.icio.us/

Line: 415
Char: 54
Error: Object doesn't support this property or method
Code: 0
URL: http://del.icio.us/

Line: 419
Char: 1
Error: 'Mp3' is undefined
Code: 0
URL: http://del.icio.us/";

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dan Geiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

--- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com, "nick.nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> 
> As stated in our http://blog.del.icio.us";>blog today,
> we're planning a 2 hour outage at noon PST on Sunday.  The outage is
> for implementing performance and stability upgrades, and I just wanted
> to give this group the heads up.  While this outage is in effect, you
> will not have access to your bookmarks (unless you are using the new
> 1.3 release of the Firefox extension).  Let me know if you have any
> questions.
> 
> -n.
>




[ydn-delicious] RE: bundles when adding

2006-12-18 Thread Larson, Timothy E.
Larson, Timothy E. wrote:
> I recently started using bundles to organize my tags, and love it. 
> However, they'd be most useful when I'm on the screen adding a new
> link so I can find what I'm looking for more easily.  Why are they
> only displayed in one big blob on the edit page?  I've set up my
> bundles such that they represent kinds of attributes (e.g. authors),
> so for each link I'd likely want one or more from each. 

I hadn't seen any discussion of this, so I was wondering if it had
gotten out.

Thanks,
Tim
-- 
Tim Larson
West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices
Eschew obfuscation!


RE: [ydn-delicious] Re: Smallish Feature Request

2006-12-18 Thread Larson, Timothy E.
magnoliasoutherly wrote:
> --- In ydn-delicious@yahoogroups.com
>  , "Larson, Timothy E."
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
>> 
>> Michael wrote:
>>> Have the option/setting for "If I click on one of my bookmarks, open
>>> the link in a new window"
>> 
>> Browsers have this built in. Usually you can just ctrl-click or
>> shift-click or something. 
>> 
> True, but not most users do not find this a desirable method. It's
> much easier to just click a bookmark then to press a button AND click.


So you think.

> Yes, it seems minor but it is an annoyance to have to do it ALL the

Have you done formal research on this?  I've been doing it (ctrl- or
shift- or cmd-clicking links) for years and it doesn't bother me at all.
Plenty of people I know have been doing likewise.  None of us find it to
be a huge annoyance.

> time. This is why Tab Mix Plus is such a popular extension for
> Firefox. It eliminates the need to have to do it all the time.  

It may be popular, but I can virtually guarantee that there are vastly
more FF installations that do NOT have TMP than those that do.  Is that
by choice, or by ignorance?  Who knows...but it is very ill-advised to
go changing default browser behaviors for zillions of others just
because you happen to like it.  I tend to believe that if this method of
browsing was, in fact, so preferable, that browser developers would have
made this the default behavior some time ago!

> Unfortunately for users however, TMP cannot control Delicious and it
> is in the Delicious laps to fix it in order to make users happy. 

It's very fortunate that TMP cannot control del.icio.us.


Tim
-- 
Tim Larson
West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices
Eschew obfuscation!


RE: [ydn-delicious] Seriously needed features.

2006-12-18 Thread Larson, Timothy E.
AFAICT, these are all implemented browser-side.  If you want these
things, use a browser that does them.  I am perfectly happy using del
with Firefox, Opera, and Camino and the features they provide.  We don't
need del to try to reimplement browser-side features with "clever
tricks" for users that don't have them; del needs to focus on what it
does best.


Tim
-- 
Tim Larson
West Corporation, Interactive TeleServices
Eschew obfuscation!