Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
On dividing it onto two vines - I don't mind but I don't see the problem with doing a ping pong thing. But another but: if Chris has already sent it to me then I'll pass it to my Brit friends omitting US, then Chris or Jim is supposed to send the new set to Mr.Skull as a US starter. If Chris has not sent it yet to me, he can send it to his US friends, but then will Jim or Chris sent another set to me? In case if Euroland is going to wait till US will be all done first, what if the list grows with more US wanters? It all depends if Jim or Chris are going to clone another euro-vine. Or there's not a topic and let's do it as it sits. Cheers Bart Użytkownik abxer3p [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał: This list from the 23rd is a little longer. Joseph Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Ahlen, Germany 8.9.84
May I join in it? Thanks Bart heberburnetts Asuokas - IRL Joseph-US Bart -PL For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisBart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On dividing it onto two vines - I don't mind but I don't see the problem with doing a ping pong thing.But another but:if Chris has already sent it to me then I'll pass it to my Brit friends omitting US,then Chris or Jim is supposed to send the new set to Mr.Skull as a US starter.If Chris has not sent it yet to me, he can send it to his US friends,but then will Jim or Chris sent another set to me?In case if Euroland is going to wait till US will be all done first, what if the list grows with more US wanters?It all depends if Jim or Chris are going to clone another euro-vine.Or there's not a topic and let's do it as it sits.CheersBartU¿ytkownik abxer3p <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>napisa³:This list from the 23rd is a little longer.JosephChris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US whiterabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/"Music is The Best!" Frank Zappa Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST
Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I've got discs marked 13/11/70 early and late...are mine wrongly dated or were there two shows on the 13th as well ? The early show starts with Jam(Grace Slick onstage) and the late with something entitled Have Gun Will Travel. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: RDZNL
FZ drove; he chose not to after waiting too long in line at the DMV. Early LP jackets spelled the song Redunzl, I believe. SOFA PS Welcome to the List, Kelly (of course, if FZ didn't drive it might be an explanation...) For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I've just checked a number (well three) FZ gig lists and they all suggest these discs come from 13/11/70. Although they also confirm that two shows were also performed on 14/11/70 but with no info available. Well worth getting though as sound is very good. As for the correct date 13th or 14th perhaps we'll never know for sure ? Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it)Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible.Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently.CrisOn 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote:Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing.Whatever...SOFA- Original Message -From: mr. and mrs. skullTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AMSubject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in.i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well...I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course).As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves...My 2 cents,SOFA - Original Message -From: chrisTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AMSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LISTWell Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now.Mr SOFA, could you help us out here?ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
My copy of the late show is dated 14th and has the following as the first track. Is this the same show? 01. Kip Cohen IntroPalladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:47 pm, Glen Young wrote: I've got discs marked 13/11/70 early and late...are mine wrongly dated or were there two shows on the 13th as well ? The early show starts with Jam(Grace Slick onstage) and the late with something entitled Have Gun Will Travel. Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
What a coincidence! I was wrong back in 76! But then again... I could be wrong about that. :o) Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 5:34 pm, Glen Young wrote: SOFA says there is confusion over the exact date but the gig lists also mention two shows on the 14th as confirmed but with no set lists..my guess is that 13/11/70 is correct. But I could be wrong...I have been before you knowback in the Summer of 76 was the last time ;- Glen For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Ahlen, Germany 8.9.84
I'm still waiting for Asuokas - IRL to send me his/her address. How long should I wait until I jump ahead? Scott --- Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I join in it? Thanks Bart heberburnetts Asuokas - IRL Joseph-US Bart -PL Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europe and US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem. Scott --- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group Zappa-List on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
that sounds reasonable - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make itgeographicallysensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
if u put Europe, or USA in the header to start with, and continue it that way for each, then searching will be easy...But will it happen?..lol - Original Message - From: Scott Burnett To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europeand US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem.Scott--- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
It should even itself out, A vine that starts in the US would spend a bit of time Ping Ponging* across the States before heading out to the rest of the world.Like wise one starting over this side would Pong Ping* around Europe before heading Stateside.Cris* These are technical terms I learnt back in 1976... but I could be wrong. :-/On 29 Jun 2005, at 6:48 pm, Scott Burnett wrote:Sounds good to me, case by case and what makes sense. As far as searching, as long as both Europeand US vines are in the same VO heading, that shouldn't be a problem.Scott--- SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me...I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count?SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. (say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make it geographically sensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pondhoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching forthem easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two(2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And wejust send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is travelingin. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioneddisregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned inthis thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine willend up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easierto search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs(with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make therounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US NickUllmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decidefor themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? Chris For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.-- For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com orhttp://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. -- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS a.. Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Ahlen, Germany 8.9.84
I'd say 3-4 days... But, of course, that's something I would say. SOFA I'm still waiting for Asuokas - IRL to send me his/her address. How long should I wait until Ijump ahead?Scott--- Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: May I join in it? Thanks Bart heberburnetts Asuokas - IRL Joseph-US Bart -PL Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.comFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links* To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/* To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
So what did you do with 52 '66 Chevy's? : P SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Hey SOF! I graduated in 76 as well,with my graduation money I bought...a 66 chevy and a new Zappa LP every week that summer,sometimes 2!! ChrisSOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This idea makes a lot of sense to me... I wasn't wrong in '76, but graduated high school - does that count? SOFA - Original Message - From: Cris Haldenby To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) How about the person who starts the vine waits till there is a list of people who want it. ( say waiting 4 or 5 days before starting it) Then the vine starter cuts and pastes the list to make itgeographicallysensible. Once it's in motion other people can add their names and OK it may eventually do some pond hoping. But at least it starts out efficiently. Cris On 29 Jun 2005, at 4:50 pm, SOFA wrote: Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US[EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you.For further Z-related fun, please visithttp://www.thebignote.comorhttp://www.killuglyradio.com, thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST)
I know it's slower for those farther down the list, but I agree with Richard. It hasn't been more than 2-3 bucks for me to mail overseas, and it's kind of fun to see something from Poland, Croatia, Sao Paolo, or the isles arrive. Joseph - Original Message - From: Richard To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I agree, splitting makes for confusion searching and remembering what's due to arrive...They get around faster than they did IMHO now than they did under the email bidding system. Plus it sort of puts a virtual wallacross the world, it's friendlier when you don't know where you are sending next..And its only a few dollars more after all! Or are we only in it for themoney? LOL. - Original Message - From: SOFA To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) Whatever you guys wish, I suppose. But part of the vine system we employ makes searching for them easier and I feel that splitting them will make that end more confusing. Whatever... SOFA - Original Message - From: mr. and mrs. skull To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 11:10 AM Subject: [Zappa-List] Vine Efficiency (WAS 1970-11-14 early and late LIST) I think at this point all we can do is learn how to things differently in the future. As a possible model for future vines of this sort: When I receive the vine, I could burn two (2) sets, and then send one to the next EU\UK recipient and one to the next US recipient. And we just send them in the order listed disregarding those not in the country the vine is traveling in. i.e. those in the US disregard all EU\UK recipients, and those in the latter afore mentioned disregard all US recipients. MR. SKULL Well... I'm not one to complicate things and, tho I can see some of the efficiencies mentioned in this thread regarding vines crossing the pond, I think having two branches for every vine will end up complicating the system. My opinion is that a single vine is easier to track, and easier to search. I guess I'd rather see single vines where an occasional shuffling of names occurs (with the agreement of the participants, of course). As this vine is already enroute to Europe, it does make a bit of sense to have it make the rounds a bit there. The vinage as posted lately is: Chris US Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Nick Ullmann-UK Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] With the vine on it's way to Bart, and if all are amenable, it could be amended to: Bart mr. skull Richard-UK Nick Ullmann-UK Milhouse-US white rabbitt-US Scott Burnett - US Joseph-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] Guy-US [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is merely a suggestion; it's really something the vine participants need to decide for themselves... My 2 cents, SOFA - Original Message - From: chris To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 1970-11-14? early and late LIST Well Bart,it's in the mail to you as we speak soI don't know what to do right now. Mr SOFA, could you help us out here? ChrisFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma
I'd be interested in hearing the tweezed version, too, and the setlist looks *very* interesting! Go for it. Joseph - Original Message - From: Bart To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:27 AM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma Hi Sofa,I'm so glad you've made all that effort, research and more.I will gladly accept it as it sits now - thank you :-DBut if you are going to take your precious time and tweak it for your own good I'd also be very much interested in hearing the result. On replacing songs with tracks from another show - God forbid on non enhancened version ;-). But on the tweaked one - why not - it could be good idea - YCDTOSA Vol. 7 sorta thing...;-)Just my two centsBest wishesBartPS. I've already gotten Das Genie Frank Zappa ZDF documentary. Awaiting for A Day With Frank film, and then will offer it to the group as a vin...CheersBartFor further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Ahlen, Germany 8.9.84
Looks Interesting :o) Carsten heberburnetts Asuokas - IRL Joseph-US Bart -PLCarsten-DK For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma
Well, the obvious has been done - correct track separation. Now I have to find a City of Tiny Lights with a similar sound and solo (shouldn't be too tough; FZ played that "Aint Necessarily So" solo several times). Once that track is repaired, I'll be looking to do the same with "Illinois Enema Bandit" - tho a comparable solo there will not be as easy to hunt down. Correct those two tracks and I should be able to do something about the upper and lower level 'munge' that's blocking out some good middle range stuff. At least, I think I can... SOFA SOFA I am currently in use ofSoundforge 7 but am but a baby withthis and wouldnt like to offer anything out until both technical proficient and musically heartfelt at the results it just wouldn't be right! keep it in house for the time being. Good luck SOFA With your endeavours! John For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Zappa-List" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
