[Zappa-List] Re: question about Zappa song, also Tinsel Town Rebellion
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "stumpe22" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Another thing I never understood also is why there was never a studio > version of Tinsel Town Rebellion, another of my alltime favorite > Zappa songs. > I know what you as far as a complete studio version but it seems much of FZs live stuff were live/studio hybrids with overdubs, which gives it all such an interesting aural quality - just like the stuff on Roxy & Elsewhere that was full of the famous FZ live/studio hybrid. Kinda like the audio equivilent of someone painting on a real photograph. Just like what my former drummer Aaron Brown did when he painted on a real photo for Steve Vai's Passion & Warfare cover. But I agree, it would be interesting to know if there is an existing all-studio version of TR. I had never given it any thought and wonder how many other tunes like that were only released in a live setting. For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] Re: Frank Goes For A Swim
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rare that a post makes me laugh - and cry; thanks Dawayne! > From what I've read, FZ hated memorizing lines. His turn in MV was pretty good. > That last one, it was so obvious that he was in pain - plus, maybe a little more sedated than he'd have wanted... > SOFA Both of those vids had the same effect on me. One very funny and the other very sad and sobering. On another note, not sure if such a DVD has been made yet by any of you, but I would LOVE to have a DVD of the following FZ/TV appearances. 1 The cleanest possible Steve Allen 1963 2 FZ on Miami Vice 3 Dance Fever 4 Make Me Laugh 5 The Boy Who Left Home to Find out About the Shivers 6 etc etc etc Basically, oddball TV shows/movies/skits that FZ appeared in as I don't have any of these. Not so much interviews or gigs but stuff like the above. Does anyone have something like this we could all share? Does anyone have a concise list of these type of TV appearances with FZ? Some great footage of Lenny Bruce, etc: http://youtube.com/results?search_query=steve+allen+show For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Zappa-List] Re: question about Zappa song, also Tinsel Town Rebellion
Well, thanks to everyone for the welcome and response!
The live song on YouTube is actually footage from Sept. 8, 1978 at
the Circus Krone in Munich Germany. There are 7 songs and the videos
are called "We don't Mess Around" and "St. Alfonzo's Pancake
Breakfast" is We Don't Mess Around 7 of 7. The live Saarbrucken CD
lists St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast as including Father O'Blivion
and Rollo, so I guess it was a medley. But, on the video it
says "St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast" on the screen.
Another thing I never understood also is why there was never a studio
version of Tinsel Town Rebellion, another of my alltime favorite
Zappa songs.
Thanks a lot everyone for your info and feedback,
-Michael
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, derekface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello, my name is Michael Smith and I'm new here. I'm a huge Zappa
> > fan, my alltime favorite, and I'me very into his music and
> > personality.
>
> Hi, Michael! Welcome aboard.
>
> > There is one thing I don't understand about the song "St.
Alfonzo's
> > Pancake Breakfast". On Apostrophe it's only 1:50 minutes long.
>
> In pretty much every other performance of the song, it isn't a
whole lot
> longer than that. In 1974, part of the song was performed slower,
but
> what's there is there. "St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast" is no
more and
> no less than the composition you hear on Apostrophe(')
>
> > However, the live 1978 version I found on YouTube is over 7
minutes
> > long and one of Zappa finest moments (in my opinion).
>
> Some details about the video you saw on YouTube would be helpful,
but
> I'm going to take an educated guess and say it was probably from
the
> 1978 Saturday Night Live performance. As for the length of the
> performance, there's the improvised portion including the
appearance by
> John Belushi. But also keep in mind that the song performed
isn't "St.
> Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast", it's actually "Rollo". Yes, the
piece of
> music at the beginning of the song appears in "Pancake Breakfast",
but
> that is a piece known as "Rollo Interior", which was originally
written
> for and performed as part of the song "Rollo" on the second 1972
tour
> (the "Petit Wazoo" band).
>
> > There's also a
> > live version on Saarbrucken 1979 but it's expensive and the
quality
> > isn't the best.
>
> 1978, actually. The sound quality isn't that great and, in my
humble
> opinion, isn't really worth owning. There are certainly many
better, and
> better sounding, performances by the same band (fall 1978 / spring
1979)
> available for free if you know where to look.. :)
>
> --Milhouse
>
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[Zappa-List] Re: question about Zappa song, also Tinsel Town Rebellion
Well, thanks to everyone for the welcome and response!
The live song on YouTube is actually footage from Sept. 8, 1978 at
the Circus Krone in Munich Germany. There are 7 songs and the videos
are called "We don't Mess Around" and "St. Alfonzo's Pancake
Breakfast" is We Don't Mess Around 7 of 7. The live Saarbrucken CD
lists St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast as including Father O'Blivion
and Rollo, so I guess it was a medley. But, on the video it
says "St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast" on the screen.
Another thing I never understood also is why there was never a studio
version of Tinsel Town Rebellion, another of my alltime favorite
Zappa songs.
Thanks a lot everyone for your info and feedback,
-Michael
--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, derekface <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hello, my name is Michael Smith and I'm new here. I'm a huge Zappa
> > fan, my alltime favorite, and I'me very into his music and
> > personality.
>
> Hi, Michael! Welcome aboard.
>
> > There is one thing I don't understand about the song "St.
Alfonzo's
> > Pancake Breakfast". On Apostrophe it's only 1:50 minutes long.
>
> In pretty much every other performance of the song, it isn't a
whole lot
> longer than that. In 1974, part of the song was performed slower,
but
> what's there is there. "St. Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast" is no
more and
> no less than the composition you hear on Apostrophe(')
>
> > However, the live 1978 version I found on YouTube is over 7
minutes
> > long and one of Zappa finest moments (in my opinion).
>
> Some details about the video you saw on YouTube would be helpful,
but
> I'm going to take an educated guess and say it was probably from
the
> 1978 Saturday Night Live performance. As for the length of the
> performance, there's the improvised portion including the
appearance by
> John Belushi. But also keep in mind that the song performed
isn't "St.
> Alphonso's Pancake Breakfast", it's actually "Rollo". Yes, the
piece of
> music at the beginning of the song appears in "Pancake Breakfast",
but
> that is a piece known as "Rollo Interior", which was originally
written
> for and performed as part of the song "Rollo" on the second 1972
tour
> (the "Petit Wazoo" band).
>
> > There's also a
> > live version on Saarbrucken 1979 but it's expensive and the
quality
> > isn't the best.
>
> 1978, actually. The sound quality isn't that great and, in my
humble
> opinion, isn't really worth owning. There are certainly many
better, and
> better sounding, performances by the same band (fall 1978 / spring
1979)
> available for free if you know where to look.. :)
>
> --Milhouse
>
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Goes For A Swim
Rare that a post makes me laugh - and cry; thanks Dawayne! >From what I've read, FZ hated memorizing lines. His turn in MV was pretty good. That last one, it was so obvious that he was in pain - plus, maybe a little more sedated than he'd have wanted... SOFA - Original Message - From: Dawayne Bailey To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:29 PM Subject: [Zappa-List] Frank Goes For A Swim classic: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-or_cVzTJI is this FZ's last interview? http://youtube.com/watch?v=E5r3Xzqw1Q4 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links
[Zappa-List] Frank Goes For A Swim
classic: http://youtube.com/watch?v=k-or_cVzTJI is this FZ's last interview? http://youtube.com/watch?v=E5r3Xzqw1Q4 For further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or http://www.killuglyradio.com , thank you. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zappa-List/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
