Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-03 Thread Darren J Moffat

On 05/02/12 23:34, Fred Liu wrote:

If you want to know Oracle's roadmap for SAM-QFS then I recommend
contacting your Oracle account rep rather than asking on a ZFS discussion list.
You won't get SAM-QFS or Oracle roadmap answers from this alias.



My original purpose is to ask if there is an effort to integrate open-sourced 
SAM-QFS into illumos
or smartos/oi/illumian.


Okay, then it would have been clearer if you had asked that question but 
you asked about SAM-QFS on a zfs discuss alias.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-03 Thread Nico Williams
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:59 AM, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org wrote:
 On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org 
 wrote:
 If Oracle is only willing to share (public) information about the
 roadmap for products via official sales channels then there will be
 lots of FUD in the market. Now, as to sharing futures and NDA
 material, that _should_ only be available via direct Oracle channels
 (as it was under Sun as well).

Sun was tight lipped too, yes, but information leaked through the open
or semi-open software development practices in Solaris.  If you saw
some feature pushed to some gate you had no guarantee that it would
remain there or be supported, but you had a pretty good inkling as to
whether the engineers working on it intended it to remain there.

If you can't get something out of your rep, you might try reading the
tea leaves (sketchy business).  But ultimately you need to be prepared
for any product's EOL.  You can expect some amount of warning time
about EOLs, but legacy has a way of sticking around, so write plan for
how to migrate data and where to, then put the plan in a drawer
somewhere (and update it as necessary).

Nico
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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Fred Liu

 
 Still a fully supported product from Oracle:
 
 http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/storage-
 software/qfs-software/overview/index.html
 

Yeah. But it seems no more updates since sun acquisition.
Don't know Oracle's roadmap in aspect of data-tying.

Thanks.

Fred
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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Darren J Moffat

On 05/02/12 10:40, Fred Liu wrote:

Still a fully supported product from Oracle:

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/storage-
software/qfs-software/overview/index.html



Yeah. But it seems no more updates since sun acquisition.
Don't know Oracle's roadmap in aspect of data-tying.


If you want to know Oracle's roadmap for SAM-QFS then I recommend 
contacting your Oracle account rep rather than asking on a ZFS 
discussion list.  You won't get SAM-QFS or Oracle roadmap answers from 
this alias.


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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Paul Kraus
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Darren J Moffat darr...@opensolaris.org wrote:

 If you want to know Oracle's roadmap for SAM-QFS then I recommend contacting
 your Oracle account rep rather than asking on a ZFS discussion list.  You
 won't get SAM-QFS or Oracle roadmap answers from this alias.

Or you could try asking on the SAMFS mailing list / discussion. I
believe that I have seen SAMFS/QFS folks from Oracle answer questions
there.

If Oracle is only willing to share (public) information about the
roadmap for products via official sales channels then there will be
lots of FUD in the market. Now, as to sharing futures and NDA
material, that _should_ only be available via direct Oracle channels
(as it was under Sun as well).

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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Richard Elling
On May 2, 2012, at 2:40 AM, Fred Liu wrote:
 
 Still a fully supported product from Oracle:
 
 http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/storage-
 software/qfs-software/overview/index.html
 
 
 Yeah. But it seems no more updates since sun acquisition.
 Don't know Oracle's roadmap in aspect of data-tying.

IIRC, the senior product architects and perhaps some engineers have
left Oracle. A better question for your Oracle rep is whether there is a 
plan to anything other than sustaining engineering for the product.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Fred Liu
.

If you want to know Oracle's roadmap for SAM-QFS then I recommend
contacting your Oracle account rep rather than asking on a ZFS discussion list.
You won't get SAM-QFS or Oracle roadmap answers from this alias.


My original purpose is to ask if there is an effort to integrate open-sourced 
SAM-QFS into illumos
or smartos/oi/illumian.

Thanks.

Fred
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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-02 Thread Fred Liu

IIRC, the senior product architects and perhaps some engineers have
left Oracle. A better question for your Oracle rep is whether there is a
plan to anything other than sustaining engineering for the product.

I see.

Thanks.

Fred




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[zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-01 Thread Fred Liu
The subject says it all.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] current status of SAM-QFS?

2012-05-01 Thread Darren J Moffat

On 04/30/12 04:00, Fred Liu wrote:

The subject says it all.


Still a fully supported product from Oracle:

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/storage-software/qfs-software/overview/index.html

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