Re: [Zim-wiki] Zim 0.60 released

2013-05-08 Thread Klaus-Dieter Bauer
2013/5/2 Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com

 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syv Ritch s...@foto-biz.com wrote:
  Thanks for the new version. I just upgraded to 0.60. I just have some
  questions. I use Zim 0.60 on an xUbuntu 12.04.
 
  * Up to 0.59 (including 0.59), every time that I would stop typing,
Zim would save the notebook after a few seconds. It doesn't do it
anymore, Zim only saves the notebook on exit. I preferred the older
way of auto-saving. Is there a way for changing it back to the
continuous auto-save?
 
  * The new 0.60 is much slower on startup than 0.59. I did a: zim
--index -V notebooks/(notebook name). It helped (a lot) with the
speed of the startup but definitely not as fast as 0.59 which was
almost instantaneous. After the startup I do not see much of
difference in the speed. Am I the only one and doing something
wrong or...

 Afraid I don't recognize either of those two items.

 Auto-save code has not changed at all in this release. Checking on my
 system is saves about every 10 seconds or when leaving a page. If this
 does not work on your system, please open a bug report.

 First time startup may indeed be slower due to the index being
 rebuild. After that there should be no delta. In fact on my system the
 new version is faster than the old one. Might help to run zim with
 debug logging and see at what debug output the time is spent. Also
 something that should go in a bug report.

 Regards,

 Jaap


I can confirm the startup speed problem. I created a bugreport for it with
some detail analysis.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1177718

If I understand it right, zim queries for an existing server on startup
before starting a new one and has a ≈10 second timeout waiting for a
response that will never come.

kind regards, Klaus
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Re: [Zim-wiki] new styles and index pain

2013-05-08 Thread Jaap Karssenberg
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 12:46 PM,  walkow...@nowalkowski.de wrote:
... 8 ...
 The use case is the writing of academic texts and more precisly the support 
 of the writing workflow. So it would be styles which doesn't relate to layout 
 but which carry workflow related semantics, example: instructions for further 
 work like missing literature, go deeper into explanation. It's a little 
 bit like the tasks FIXME... but while working with text it would be nice if 
 these things are not only reflected by Kexwords which get visually lost but 
 also visually. Other thinks are annotations and the summary of a page, which 
 hast to be inline in Zim as there is no extra textfield for such things apart 
 from the wikipage but because of this has to be seperated visually from text. 
 I thin while typing the main categorial differance why I would like to use 
 such styles is to make a visual differance between text and metatext. Of 
 cause an even more attractive solution would be to work on different text 
 files where one is the main text and one to many are metatext but I am sure 
 that's a lot harder to implement.
... 8 ...

For the workflow you may want to look at the tasklist plugin. You can
track FIXME / TODO items (if they appear on a separate line) and find
back all open items in the text from the dialog. Should work fine in
combination with highlighting the text.

For meta text have a look at this feature request:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1108760 it has a proof-of-concept
plugin attached that might be close to what you want for annotations
and summaries.

Current work ongoing will allow to improve that proof-of-concept and
make the side pane support formatting, links etc. as well.

Regards,

Jaap

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