Re: [Zim-wiki] kiwix

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi Adrian, the ZIM file format and the zim desktop wiki are to the best of my 
knowledge unrelated projects bearing the same name (and, unfortunately, are in 
the same area, i.e., wikis)

So no, you cannot use zim with kiwix at the time being. (but export to it would 
be a possible future feature of the zim wiki, right??)

Best, Steffen

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On Mar 5, 2017, 15:26, at 15:26, Adrian Meyer  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>do anyone use kiwix?
>
>I want to use it for read my zim wiki on smartphone and iPad.
>
>Everytime I want to open the .zim file an error from kiwix came: this
>is
>a no supported zim file.
>
>Kiwix use the zim format, too. But something doesn´t work.
>
>How can I use the Kiwix and Zim Desktop?
>
>Regards from Germany
>
>Adrian
>
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Cannot copy images

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi Agustin,

Short answer: It's a design bug. :(

Short workaround: Copy both the page text that contains the images as 
well as the page's attachments to the new location.


Longer, technical answer:

This stems from the fact that images are embedded as special links to 
attached files (use Tools -> Edit Source to see that). Copy'n'pasting 
"the image" AFAIA only copies the link to the image. Now there are a few 
issues related to that:


1. If the link is relative (it usually is), then that link points to
   the wrong place in the new page.
2. The actual file is not copied, so if you move or delete the file in
   the original page later (or rename the original page itself), it's
   gone in the new page, too.

IMHO this should be fixed by teaching ZIM to differentiate between 
"attachment/embedded"-type links like local images, files, or equations 
and "reference"-type links like remote files and anything else.
Also: Can we unify the way we link to attachments vs pages (where very 
similar issues arise, and have partially been fixed)?


Related bugs:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/1086343
https://bugs.launchpad.net/zim/+bug/330320

Best, Steffen

On 17-Feb-17 12:00, Agustin Lobo wrote:

Why can't I copy pictures from one zim page and paste to another?
Thanks



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[Zim-wiki] Two performance issues on Windows

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Dear all,

I noticed two performance issues on Windows which do not seem to exist 
on Linux.


*1. **Slow image loading:* Switching to a page with somewhat large 
images introduces a considerable delay (like 0.5 sec) compared to pages 
with no images.


*2. **High CPU load while typing:*  While typing, ZIM takes up to 20% 
CPU on my system. That seems to be an unhealthy lot compared to Notepad 
(1%) and even OneNote (4%).


Any thoughts on this? Do you experience the same?
Do you think it's a GTK+2 issue? PyGTK?

I'm on ZIM 0.65 with Windows 10.

Thanks,
Best, Steffen
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Re: [Zim-wiki] "Flat usage" of Zim-Wiki without a nested structure?

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Fwiw, iirc a while ago someone reported on this list performance issues with 
~5000 pages in a flat structure. (while no such issues are known to me for 
nested structures) 

 Daniel Hofer wrote 

>Thanks a lot for this detailed description.
>Yes, I think it helps. I really have to think about it. I think I don't need 
>or use tags a lot. I saw it in Evernote. There you have also tagging 
>functions. It was more frustrating than anything else.
>
>Currently I'm writing on my bachelor thesis. And while I'm reading in books 
>(many books;-)), I make notes in Zim.
>What I find useful, if I use tags like:
>@BTtoCite
>@BTproblem
>@BTimportant
>(while BT means BachelorThesis).
>So I find concrete notes very fast. For finding other notes I generally use 
>the search function. This is my favorite in most cases.
>
>Daniel
>
>Von: Alec [mailto:alecceck...@gmail.com]
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2017 23:00
>An: Daniel Hofer 
>Betreff: Re: AW: [Zim-wiki] "Flat usage" of Zim-Wiki without a nested 
>structure?
>
>
>Daniel,
>
>I see what you mean now. Using only tags will become difficult as the scale of 
>your notebook increases. Ive found tags become messy after you add more than 
>25 or so, especially if you don't think about your tagging methodology. Using 
>a combination of nested directories and tags may be a good method to overcome 
>your issues, but you should define your own tagging methodology to keep it 
>simple.
>
>Personally, I use zim and org-mode to manage notes and todo lists, and I use 
>directories to separate different notes by their context, (Personal, 
>Education, Work, Projects (not personal ones), etc). Each context directory 
>has no more than 2 more levels of contexts, and then tags are used when 
>information within notes is relevant to multiple contexts. I keep tags limited 
>to the title of the page or of the main headers within the page, but rarely 
>use tags.
>
>Hope this gives you a bit of inspiration.
>
>Best,
>
>Alec
>
>On 01/17/2017 04:30 PM, Daniel Hofer wrote:
>Hi Alec
>
>Thanks for your information. Yes I've already enabled the tags plugin.
>My question was more about the phylosophy rather than the technical aspects.
>
>I'm not sure if it really makes sense if I had a flat structure.
>Ah, I could make a copy of the notebook and test it. Perhaps I'll be happier 
>than with my current tree.
>
>Best,
>Daniel
>
>Von: Alec [mailto:alecceck...@gmail.com]
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2017 22:08
>An: Daniel Hofer 
>Betreff: Re: [Zim-wiki] "Flat usage" of Zim-Wiki without a nested structure?
>
>
>Daniel,
>
>There is a plugin for organizing your page index by tags. Here is the info 
>online. Otherwise you can press 
>F1 to open the help in zimwiki and find it under plugins.
>
>Enable it in your preferences and there will e a tags tab on the left beside 
>index.
>
>Regarding the tree structure, just put all of the text files in the main 
>directory of your notes directory instead of nesting them.
>
>Best,
>
>Alec
>
>On 01/17/2017 03:02 PM, Daniel Hofer wrote:
>Hello everybody
>
>Is there anybod who uses Zim-Wiki without a tree structure of pages? I mean, 
>instead of a tree on the left side one could have all notes in one column but 
>work with tags for example.
>
>What do you think about this ?
>My problem is very often that I really can't find the correct item for my new 
>subitem. Very often an item could fit in more than one position in the tree.
>And another problem I could solve: my problem with the link text I mentioned 
>recently. Without a tree structure every link would have  link text 
>for me.
>
>Mhm, a bit confused if it could help.
>
>Thanks
>Daniel
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] X11 primary selection availability

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi Marco,

this works for me (ubuntu, xmonad/LXDE) without any problems.
(just to point out that it's not broken for /everyone/ /all/ the time)

Best, Steffen

On 11/30/16 02:09, arkilho arkilho wrote:

Hello everybody,
this is Marco from Italy, just subscribed with the purpose of asking 
you whether there is some internal use of the primary selection that 
forbids me (and maybe some of us) to just paste the selected text by 
middle mouse click.
This is the good (or at least simple) old cutbuffer, now became X11 
primary selection.


I use Debian Jessie with XFCE4, and Zim is my most useful way of 
storing my infos, and the primary selection to middle click is my most 
useful and fast way to cut, expecially from terminals like rxvt, 
but also from firefox selected text..


Did you ever missed this?
Do you have something to suggest me that differs from (for ex) "throw 
xfce, use gnome, and write gsettings set 
org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.mouse middle-button-enabled true"


As far as I've seen until now, except from some virtual machines, Zim 
is really the only software I use that cannot benefit from this nice 
feature, so I'm at least wondering if there are some constrains that 
will break Zim, internals, boh


Thank you!
Marco


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Re: [Zim-wiki] Problem concerning Print-to-Browser Plugin

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi Karthik,

I noticed zim making weird browser choices.
Can you open a web link by clicking on it in zim? What browser do you get? 

Cheers, Steffen 

 Karthik Tayur wrote 

>Dear all,
>
>Zim has been an excellent application. I recently moved to a new computer.
>Ever since then, I've been having a problem with the Print plugin. It fails
>to work - there is no response.
>
>The DE is XFCE, OS is Arch Linux.
>(I have looked at https://answers.launchpad.net/zim/+question/124905 )
>
>Initially I had xombrero, thinking it might have been problematic, I've
>installed Mozilla, designating the latter as the preferred application.
>xdg-open and exo-open both work with Mozilla, however zim fails to output.
>
>Is there any way to check what is being chosen by the plugin?
>
>Regards
>Karthik Tayur
>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Move line up/down functionality

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi again (and sorry for the spam),

I just noticed that Ctrl+Up/Down is already used for the next / previous 
/physical/ line, as created by hits of the return key, while Up/Down 
moves between /visual/ lines, as created by either hits of the return 
key /or/ word wrap at the window boundary. Ctrl+Up/Down is also called 
"next / previous /paragraph/" somewhere.


Not sure if anyone uses this feature, though.

Best, Steffen

On 10/31/16 10:21, Steffen Schuldenzucker wrote:


Hi Johannes,

Thanks a lot for your plugin.
Regarding keyboard shortcuts, I always loved the way workflowy [1] 
does it and I had the idea of copying part of its functionality into 
ZIM. I think your plugin brings us fairly close already.


Workflowy uses the following shortcuts (but I'm happy with 
Ctrl+Up/Down, too; emphasis and comments added by me)


Zoom in (hoist)
Alt + Right
Zoom out (de-hoist)
Alt + Left
Expand / collapse   Control+ Down/Up
Indent  Tab
Outdent Shift + Tab
(or press Enter on an empty line)
*Move*  *Alt+ Shift + Up/Down*
/*Indent / Outdent
*/  /*  Alt*//**//*+ Shift + Left/Right*/
*Add a note /(body text)/
*   *Shift + Enter*
CompleteControl+ Enter
*Delete**Control+ Shift +Backspace*
Search  Escape
Show/hide completed Control+ O
Star page   Control+ Shift +∗
Switch between pagesControl+ ;
(holdControlwhile switching)
Bold / italic / underline   Control+ B/I/U
Keyboard shortcuts  Control+ ?


Best, Steffen

[1] A text-only, rather minimalist outline editor with hoisting and a 
beautiful UI.

https://workflowy.com/

On 10/29/16 19:41, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

Hi Johannes,

Patch looks good, so want to merge it. Just one question about the 
key bindings you choose, is there a specific rationale for these 
specific keys (other tools that use the same, interface guidelines, 
...) or did you choose them on availability ?


Thanks,

Jaap


On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:46 PM Johannes Kirschner 
<m...@johannes-kirschner.de <mailto:m...@johannes-kirschner.de>> wrote:


Hi all,

I pushed new changes to the branch. The linesorter plugin now
includes a
delete and duplicate line shortcut. Furthermore the move line up/down
shortcut works also when multiple lines are selected.

Best,
Johannes

On 22.10.2016 08:29, Johannes Kirschner wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> thanks for the feedback. So it looks like there is some interest in
> the feature. Regarding the implementation, for now I will
combine the
> code with the linesorter plugin. Let me know if you have any
concerns
> with that.
>
> I will also look into including further features like:
> - delete line (Thanks to Andrey Bratukhin's branch this is
already done)
> - duplicate line
> - move multiple selected lines
>
> The branch is up on the project homepage. Feel free to check it out
> and give further comments.
>
> Best,
> Johannes
>
>
> On 16.10.2016 23:21, Marcio Tibirica wrote:
>> Hi Johannes,
>>
>> I would suggest the Move Line feature to be implemented in plugin
>> format. Maybe the integration with the Line Sorter plugin
should be
>> considered, but this is up to you.
>>
>> Maybe you could also consider to add some other line
operations which
>> can make your implementation more universal.
>> For example:
>> >Insert blank line
>> >Duplicate current line
>> >Delete current line
>>
>> Anyway, thank you for your initiative with the Move Line
feature. I
>> am sure it will help many people, I included, to better organize
>> lists with check-boxes or without.
>>
>> Marcio
>>
>>
>> Em 16/10/2016 08:16, Johannes Kirschner escreveu:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I recently started to use zim to organize my research
activity, and I
>>> like it a lot!
>>>
>>> Besides the note taking I am using the checkbox feature to
set the
>>> goals
>>> for a day or a week, but as things go I often end up reordering
>>> todos or
>>> moving points to another day. That's why I am missing a
shortcut to
>>> move
>>> a line up or down (I use Strg+Up/Down) which is much faster
than a
>>> select-cut-paste.
>>>
>>> I have implemented the feature in a new branch. Do you think
this is a
>>> feature of wider interest? I would be happy to prepare the
branch for
>>> merging. Regarding the implementation, should this go in the
main code
>>> or as

Re: [Zim-wiki] Move line up/down functionality

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi Johannes,

Thanks a lot for your plugin.
Regarding keyboard shortcuts, I always loved the way workflowy [1] does 
it and I had the idea of copying part of its functionality into ZIM. I 
think your plugin brings us fairly close already.


Workflowy uses the following shortcuts (but I'm happy with Ctrl+Up/Down, 
too; emphasis and comments added by me)


Zoom in (hoist)
Alt + Right
Zoom out (de-hoist)
Alt + Left
Expand / collapse   Control+ Down/Up
Indent  Tab
Outdent Shift + Tab
(or press Enter on an empty line)
*Move*  *Alt+ Shift + Up/Down*
/*Indent / Outdent
*/  /*Alt*//**//*+ Shift + Left/Right*/
*Add a note /(body text)/
*   *Shift + Enter*
CompleteControl+ Enter
*Delete**Control+ Shift +Backspace*
Search  Escape
Show/hide completed Control+ O
Star page   Control+ Shift +∗
Switch between pagesControl+ ;
(holdControlwhile switching)
Bold / italic / underline   Control+ B/I/U
Keyboard shortcuts  Control+ ?


Best, Steffen

[1] A text-only, rather minimalist outline editor with hoisting and a 
beautiful UI.

https://workflowy.com/

On 10/29/16 19:41, Jaap Karssenberg wrote:

Hi Johannes,

Patch looks good, so want to merge it. Just one question about the key 
bindings you choose, is there a specific rationale for these specific 
keys (other tools that use the same, interface guidelines, ...) or did 
you choose them on availability ?


Thanks,

Jaap


On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:46 PM Johannes Kirschner 
> wrote:


Hi all,

I pushed new changes to the branch. The linesorter plugin now
includes a
delete and duplicate line shortcut. Furthermore the move line up/down
shortcut works also when multiple lines are selected.

Best,
Johannes

On 22.10.2016 08:29, Johannes Kirschner wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> thanks for the feedback. So it looks like there is some interest in
> the feature. Regarding the implementation, for now I will
combine the
> code with the linesorter plugin. Let me know if you have any
concerns
> with that.
>
> I will also look into including further features like:
> - delete line (Thanks to Andrey Bratukhin's branch this is
already done)
> - duplicate line
> - move multiple selected lines
>
> The branch is up on the project homepage. Feel free to check it out
> and give further comments.
>
> Best,
> Johannes
>
>
> On 16.10.2016 23:21, Marcio Tibirica wrote:
>> Hi Johannes,
>>
>> I would suggest the Move Line feature to be implemented in plugin
>> format. Maybe the integration with the Line Sorter plugin should be
>> considered, but this is up to you.
>>
>> Maybe you could also consider to add some other line operations
which
>> can make your implementation more universal.
>> For example:
>> >Insert blank line
>> >Duplicate current line
>> >Delete current line
>>
>> Anyway, thank you for your initiative with the Move Line feature. I
>> am sure it will help many people, I included, to better organize
>> lists with check-boxes or without.
>>
>> Marcio
>>
>>
>> Em 16/10/2016 08:16, Johannes Kirschner escreveu:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I recently started to use zim to organize my research
activity, and I
>>> like it a lot!
>>>
>>> Besides the note taking I am using the checkbox feature to set the
>>> goals
>>> for a day or a week, but as things go I often end up reordering
>>> todos or
>>> moving points to another day. That's why I am missing a
shortcut to
>>> move
>>> a line up or down (I use Strg+Up/Down) which is much faster than a
>>> select-cut-paste.
>>>
>>> I have implemented the feature in a new branch. Do you think
this is a
>>> feature of wider interest? I would be happy to prepare the
branch for
>>> merging. Regarding the implementation, should this go in the
main code
>>> or as a separate plugin, similar to the line-sorter plugin (or
even as
>>> part of the line-sorter plugin)?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Johannes
>>>
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Customizing journal plugin per notebook

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi,

Just to say, I'd also be interested in small modifications of the 
journal plugin, namely


- having multiple journals per notebook (below different parent pages) and
- allowing one page per /entry/ (rather than per month, day, etc.) in a 
flat or almost-flat structure.


I envision that this would give me a fast way to create "project 
journals" and link to them from other pages.


A way to dynamically create page names would be part of this, so I'm 
interested in what you're doing, and maybe we can join forces.


Can you explain what exactly you want to achieve?

Best, Steffen

On 05.10.2016 18:22, Nilesh wrote:

That answers the first question - about having per notebook configuration.

Looks like I have to edit the journal plugin to have it generate 
filenames like I prefer?


On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Marcio Tibirica > wrote:


Hi Nilesh,

I am not sure what you mean by "custom configuration", but I think
you can get Zim plugins configured differently per notebook if you
define a different profile for each notebook. You can try this
going to >File >Properties and define a name in the Profile field.
Do this for each notebook and make sure you define a different
profile name for each notebook.

Marcio


Em 02/10/2016 12:57, Nilesh escreveu:

Hello zim users,

Is it possible to have custom configuration for the journal
plugin per notebook?
Also how about changing the way the plugin generates *file
names* (not page
names, I know how to do that)?



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[Zim-wiki] import/sync with web apps (todoist, evernote)

[Steffen Schuldenzucker]

Hi guys, I'm re-sending this email because it didn't get through the 
first time. If this is not true, sorry for double posting.



Dear all,

since this is my first post, please let me briefly introduce myself:
I'm Steffen, I'm a PhD student from Zurich and I've been using ZIM since
May for almost all of my work-related and private notes.
I think ZIM is an amazing piece of software; there are some rough edges
and features I would like and which I'm eager to do some hacking on.

I'm interested in interfacing ZIM with web applications.
Most urgent for me, and what I'm planning to do soon, is an importer
from Todoist[1], because that's my primary way of capturing notes on the
go. I might also write an importer from Evernote later. These should
both be easy tasks because both apps have an API and ZIM's wiki syntax
is easy to generate.
Two-way syncing is more delicate, but it would also open up a whole
array of new use cases, and could help bring ZIM to mobile until there
is a proper ZIM app.

My question is if there has already been a discussion on import or sync
that I could use as a starting point.
Is there already a piece of infrastructure that could support one of the
two operations?
Do you think two-way sync is achievable and/or useful?
All thoughts are welcome!

Best,
Steffen

[1] http://todoist.com -- A to-do list manager.


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