Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread hkpage
Oh, I don't know, Paul.  I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't
worry about making hand contact with the temple workers.  Especially when
it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will
protect us.  And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has
said how the ordinances are to be performed.  It is just my personal
feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be
and everything will be alright.  I just don't worry about it there. 
Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the
restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in
the temple.

But that's me...
Heidi the fair

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 From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 6/23/2003 9:52:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes


 On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands?  Are we to 
  ask if 
  they have washed them?
  
  Stacy.



 It's just down right dirty, nasty, and germy. There just doesn't seem to
 be a way out of it. H. Oh well; what can we do? We have no say about
 it. The prophet runs the show.

 Wait!

 Could we wear latex gloves in the temple?? I'm dead, serious! Can we? Who
 is going to stop me from doing so? It's our business and our health--
 besides latex gloves are white. 

 This just might be a glorious revelation on my part! Safe temple
 ordinaces? ;-)))

 Paul O the Great
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Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Oh, I don't know, Paul.  I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just 
 don't
 worry about making hand contact with the temple workers.  Especially 
 when
 it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord 
 will
 protect us.  And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who 
 has
 said how the ordinances are to be performed.  It is just my 
 personal
 feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed 
 to be
 and everything will be alright.  I just don't worry about it there. 
 
 Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after 
 using the
 restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry 
 about it in
 the temple.
 
 But that's me...
 Heidi the fair


I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily
think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the
temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It
seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that
we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck
with? I want to avoid those trials if I can.

It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the
hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not
sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it.

Paul O
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Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Oh, I don't know, Paul.  I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just
 don't
 worry about making hand contact with the temple workers.  Especially
 when
 it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord
 will
 protect us.  And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who
 has
 said how the ordinances are to be performed.  It is just my
 personal
 feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed
 to be
 and everything will be alright.  I just don't worry about it there.

 Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after
 using the
 restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry
 about it in
 the temple.

 But that's me...
 Heidi the fair
I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily
think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the
temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It
seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that
we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck
with? I want to avoid those trials if I can.
It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the
hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not
sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it.
Paul O
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to think that 
perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting 
with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune system and 
develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For example, I 
exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the best age 
to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or older 
and have more severe complications) and they have never had any problems 
since.

I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had what 
appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons 
western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to the 
fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up than 
other races or peoples.



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Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
 
 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Oh, I don't know, Paul.  I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I 
 just
   don't
   worry about making hand contact with the temple workers.  
 Especially
   when
   it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord
   will
   protect us.  And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one 
 who
   has
   said how the ordinances are to be performed.  It is just my
   personal
   feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are 
 supposed
   to be
   and everything will be alright.  I just don't worry about it 
 there.
  
   Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after
   using the
   restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry
   about it in
   the temple.
  
   But that's me...
   Heidi the fair
 
 
 I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't 
 necessarily
 think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in 
 the
 temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people 
 do. It
 seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems 
 that
 we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get 
 stuck
 with? I want to avoid those trials if I can.
 
 It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but 
 all the
 hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just 
 not
 sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it.
 
 Paul O
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to 
 think that 
 perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, 
 starting 
 with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune 
 system and 
 develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For 
 example, I 
 exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the 
 best age 
 to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or 
 older 
 and have more severe complications) and they have never had any 
 problems 
 since.
 
 I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had 
 what 
 appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons 
 
 western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to 
 the 
 fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up 
 than 
 other races or peoples.
 
 
 
 --
 Steven Montgomery


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everything.

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Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread George Cobabe
Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of illness
and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or news
topics.

What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line - but it seems to
be getting more serious all of the time.

George

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes



 On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote:
 
  On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Oh, I don't know, Paul.  I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I
  just
don't
worry about making hand contact with the temple workers.
  Especially
when
it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord
will
protect us.  And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one
  who
has
said how the ordinances are to be performed.  It is just my
personal
feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are
  supposed
to be
and everything will be alright.  I just don't worry about it
  there.
   
Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after
using the
restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry
about it in
the temple.
   
But that's me...
Heidi the fair
  
  
  I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't
  necessarily
  think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in
  the
  temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people
  do. It
  seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems
  that
  we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get
  stuck
  with? I want to avoid those trials if I can.
  
  It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but
  all the
  hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just
  not
  sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it.
  
  Paul O
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to
  think that
  perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible,
  starting
  with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune
  system and
  develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For
  example, I
  exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the
  best age
  to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or
  older
  and have more severe complications) and they have never had any
  problems
  since.
 
  I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had
  what
  appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons
 
  western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to
  the
  fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up
  than
  other races or peoples.
 
 
 
  --
  Steven Montgomery


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 everything.

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Re: [ZION] hand shakes

2003-06-24 Thread Paul Osborne

On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:54:56 -0600 George Cobabe
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 Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of 
 illness
 and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or 
 news
 topics.
 
 What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line - but it 
 seems to
 be getting more serious all of the time.
 
 George


Oh dear, it went right over your little head, George. How long have you
been a member of the Church, 6 months, maybe? You need to spend more time
on the Zion list with us spiritual giants and then you will begin to
understand. 

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