Re: [ZION] hand shakes
Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect us. And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has said how the ordinances are to be performed. It is just my personal feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be and everything will be alright. I just don't worry about it there. Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair Heidi Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Original Message] From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 6/23/2003 9:52:23 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 04:11:31 -0700 Stacy Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What are we supposed to do about temple workers' hands? Are we to ask if they have washed them? Stacy. It's just down right dirty, nasty, and germy. There just doesn't seem to be a way out of it. H. Oh well; what can we do? We have no say about it. The prophet runs the show. Wait! Could we wear latex gloves in the temple?? I'm dead, serious! Can we? Who is going to stop me from doing so? It's our business and our health-- besides latex gloves are white. This just might be a glorious revelation on my part! Safe temple ordinaces? ;-))) Paul O the Great [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect us. And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has said how the ordinances are to be performed. It is just my personal feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be and everything will be alright. I just don't worry about it there. Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck with? I want to avoid those trials if I can. It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] hand shakes
At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect us. And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has said how the ordinances are to be performed. It is just my personal feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be and everything will be alright. I just don't worry about it there. Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck with? I want to avoid those trials if I can. It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune system and develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For example, I exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the best age to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or older and have more severe complications) and they have never had any problems since. I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had what appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to the fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up than other races or peoples. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect us. And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has said how the ordinances are to be performed. It is just my personal feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be and everything will be alright. I just don't worry about it there. Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck with? I want to avoid those trials if I can. It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune system and develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For example, I exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the best age to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or older and have more severe complications) and they have never had any problems since. I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had what appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to the fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up than other races or peoples. -- Steven Montgomery I'd live in a bubble if I could. To heck with the world. To heck with everything. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] hand shakes
Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of illness and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or news topics. What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line - but it seems to be getting more serious all of the time. George - Original Message - From: Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: Re: [ZION] hand shakes On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:05:31 -0600 Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 08:14 AM 6/24/2003, you wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 08:17:00 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, I don't know, Paul. I'm pretty particular, I suppose, but I just don't worry about making hand contact with the temple workers. Especially when it pertains to performing ordinances, I just feel like the Lord will protect us. And actually, the Lord is in charge; He is the one who has said how the ordinances are to be performed. It is just my personal feeling that when we are in the temple, we are where we are supposed to be and everything will be alright. I just don't worry about it there. Naturally, I wash my hands as per my usual practice (like after using the restroom and before eating) but beyond that, I just don't worry about it in the temple. But that's me... Heidi the fair I understand your faith in this thing, Heidi. But-- I don't necessarily think the Lord will protect us just because we are doing work in the temple. We LDS people are always getting sick just as other people do. It seems the Lord doesn't stop this from happening but actually deems that we get sick-- you know-- those wonderful little trials that we get stuck with? I want to avoid those trials if I can. It isn't the temple workers hands that I am so concerned with but all the hands he has been shaking. Germs get carried that way. It's just not sanitary if you ask me. Something should be done about it. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] Such paranoia didn't do Howard Hughes any good. I'm beginning to think that perhaps people should be exposed to as many germs as possible, starting with early childhood. That way the body can build up its immune system and develop resistance to as many germs and viruses as possible. For example, I exposed my children to chickenpox when they were young (and at the best age to handle such a disease, as opposed to when they are middle aged or older and have more severe complications) and they have never had any problems since. I remember reading an article in one scientific journal, which had what appeared to be some evidence for its thesis, that one of the reasons western culture and civilization developed and persevered was due to the fact that that particular stock of people had more immunity built up than other races or peoples. -- Steven Montgomery I'd live in a bubble if I could. To heck with the world. To heck with everything. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] hand shakes
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:54:56 -0600 George Cobabe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Boy o Boy - talking about whether or not to shake hands for fear of illness and death makes a lot more sense than talking about doctrinal or news topics. What a lot of nonsense - I keep waiting for the punch line - but it seems to be getting more serious all of the time. George Oh dear, it went right over your little head, George. How long have you been a member of the Church, 6 months, maybe? You need to spend more time on the Zion list with us spiritual giants and then you will begin to understand. Paul O [EMAIL PROTECTED] The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^