Re: [ZION] Salvation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each term, salvation and exaltation, has a specific meaning; however, I think they are often used interchangeably. === Grampa Bill comments: Even by the prophets, and even in the scriptures. But I agree, there is a difference. Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk ..
Chet is merely a character from Thimble Theatre (the comic strip which introduced and now stars Popeye). His Bizarro twin is Retsehc. And him talk like a Weisenger baby do. *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:29:35 -0400 Jon Spencer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I always sort of liked Bizarro. I mean, a world that was in the > shape of a > square! That was one hard physics problem to solve! I also think > that it > was pretty clever of you to relate Noj with Bizarro, unless of > course ... > could it be ... is your real name, perhaps, Tehc > > > Peej! > Noj > > - Original Message - > From: "Chet Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk .. > > > > Ouch! The traffic is getting so slow around here that Jon is > reduced to > > using jokes that even *Lois & Clark* recycled. (Or was that a > Byrned > > issue of Superman?) > > > > Oops - pardon me. That was Jon's Bizarro twin: Noj. > > > > *jeep! > >--Chet > > "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and > suddenly you > > are doing the impossible." > > > > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:21:31 -0400 Jon Spencer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > What did the Buddhist monk say to the hot dog vendor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make me one with everything. > > > > > > Noj > > > > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > > > > / /// > // > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > > > / /// > / > > > > > > / / > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / // > > > > *jeep! --Chet "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible." The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk ..
I always sort of liked Bizarro. I mean, a world that was in the shape of a square! That was one hard physics problem to solve! I also think that it was pretty clever of you to relate Noj with Bizarro, unless of course ... could it be ... is your real name, perhaps, Tehc Peej! Noj - Original Message - From: "Chet Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] What did the Buddist monk .. > Ouch! The traffic is getting so slow around here that Jon is reduced to > using jokes that even *Lois & Clark* recycled. (Or was that a Byrned > issue of Superman?) > > Oops - pardon me. That was Jon's Bizarro twin: Noj. > > *jeep! >--Chet > "Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you > are doing the impossible." > > On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 23:21:31 -0400 Jon Spencer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > What did the Buddhist monk say to the hot dog vendor? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Make me one with everything. > > > > Noj > > > The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! > Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! > Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > > // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] One by Leo Tolstoy
I think Tolstoy was right on with that ocmment. sounds a lot like King Benjamins comments about serving. Bob Taylor >I ran across this quote from Leo Tolstoy the other day. Rather than saying >what I thought about it, I would like to put it out to the list and hear >what you might have to say. > >It is within my power either to serve God or not to serve him. > >Serving him, I add to my own good, and the good of the whole world. > >Not serving him, I forfeit my own good, and deprive the world of that good, >which was in my power to create. > > > >Leo Tolstoy > > > >Jon > >// >/// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// >/// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// >/ ** "There are no coincidences, only small miracles." Author Unknown ** // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] One by Leo Tolstoy
I ran across this quote from Leo Tolstoy the other day. Rather than saying what I thought about it, I would like to put it out to the list and hear what you might have to say. It is within my power either to serve God or not to serve him. Serving him, I add to my own good, and the good of the whole world. Not serving him, I forfeit my own good, and deprive the world of that good, which was in my power to create. Leo Tolstoy Jon // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
RE: [ZION] Salvation
I have not researched, but understand that Salvation gets at resurrection, saved from death, the fall of Adam "for as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive". Thus we are "saved". Did nothing to earn it. Couldn't earn it if we wanted to. Free gift. That's the grace. Exaltation gets at celestial kingdom, like God, with God . . . on condition of repentance through the atonement. Each term, salvation and exaltation, has a specific meaning; however, I think they are often used interchangeably. *** lurk mode back on *** garth hamblin juneau, alaska -Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Gerald Smith Subject: [ZION] Salvation Last month the high council speaker in Juneau Third Ward spoke on the topic of Salvation, and he used the writings of Gerald Lund as his primary source in addition to the scriptures. During his talk he said something that I found particularly interesting. He said, "In the scriptures, the term 'salvation' is never used to mean anything less than exaltation or eternal life in the highest degree of the celestial kingdom." I don't know if this is true or not; but if it is, then it could have settled many of the differences of opinion I had with Gary Smith, and perhaps he would still be participating on my email lists. In scripture, does the word "salvation" ever specifically denote a telestial or a terrestrial glory? Does it ever specifically denote the condition of ministering angels who have achieved the celestial kingdom but failed to obtain the highest degree? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === "There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph." --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
