Re: [ZION] Starts with G guests

2003-11-15 Thread Lew Thomas
At 05:25 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote:

Tom Matkin wrote:
Sonnet 133 (Some children live for only just a while)
by Tom Matkin, March 30, 2002
Some children live for only just a while
Mere visitors not really part of us
Perhaps they've proved themselves without this trial
Not needing but a touch of all this fuss.
It wounds us when they get their final call
We grieve and fret and feel the hand of pain
Invested as we are in loving all
It hurts, but it's our duty to remain.
We know they meet with glory where they go
They lose no blessings from their shortened stay
And leave their touch of heaven's love below
To spark resolve to live a better way.
So one day when our earthly stay is done
Brief guests and us can once again be one.
Ditto

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RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-13 Thread Lew Thomas
At 07:11 AM 11/13/2003, you wrote:


Cool your fighting blood and freshen your synapses, Till.  If Brother
McConkie is right this will obviously be a war of words -- of good
thinking/doing prevailing over evil.  Otherwise, s'plain to me how one would
go about slaying the a spirit, or one of the Three Nephites, for i


I do not think that this will be a war of tanks, guns and swords.  How are 
you going to kill a resurrected being?  I think that it will be a war of 
good vs evil.  How exactly it is going to be waged is anyone guess.  My 
guess is that the light over comes the darkness.

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RE: [ZION] Sons of Perdition

2003-11-12 Thread Lew Thomas
At 01:16 PM 11/12/2003, you wrote:

Once Satan is loosed, he will gather an army from amongst those still
living upon the earth. However, it will not be anywhere near the numbers
he has already taken with him.  In a world populated with 10 billion
people, I would imagine his army would be in the millions at most.
From my understanding and as Brother McConkie indicates This final great 
battle, in which evil spirits, mortal men, and resurrected personages all 
participate, will be the end of war as far as this earth is concernedI 
believe that the final battle includes these evil spirits or in other words 
the 1/3 of the host of heaven that was kicked out with Satan.  If this is 
the case it surely would be more than millions.

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RE: [ZION] Official Doctrine #2

2003-11-10 Thread Lew Thomas
At 06:49 AM 11/10/2003, you wrote:

At 07:09 PM 11/7/2003 +, Rabbi Rabinowitz wrote:
The bottom line
is that while the question of exaltation may turn on our willingness to
enter into the eternal covenant of marriage--a specific commandment--it
turns most of all upon our willingness to keep ALL of his commandments
and in so doing, to then allow the atonement (through the process of
repentance) to take full effect in our lives.


I think the operative words here are sealed by the Holy Spirit of 
Promise  This is something that this feeble old brain doesn't completely 
understand, but it sounds pretty intimidating all the same.  Could it be 
coincidental with the second comforter?  Scary thought, says I, if you 
read the rest of the chapter with that in mind.  I'm with the BLT, 
sometimes I fear God.  It certainly gives me great incentive to try 
harder each day.

Till
From my limited understanding, being sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise 
is when the Holy Ghost puts his stamp of approval on the ordinance.  This 
stamp can and will be removed if the person fails to keep the 
commandments.   The big question is how do we know if the ordinance has 
been sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise as we all sin?

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Fwd: [ZION] Signs Yet to Come

2003-11-10 Thread Lew Thomas

Here is a brief, incomplete list of the signs of the times that have not 
yet been fulfilled:

1. Global hailstorm
2. No rainbow
3. Global earthquake
4. Sun turn dark
5. Moon turn to blood
6. Stars fall from heaven
7. Burning mountain cast into the sea
8. Priesthood meeting at Adam-ondi-ahman
9. Islamic and communist countries receive gospel
10. Jews begin to believe in Jesus as Messiah
11. Return of Lost Tribes from the north
12. Return of Enoch's Zion
13. Coming forth of the rest of the Book of Mormon
14. Temple built in Jerusalem
15. Temple built in Jackson County
16. All nations go up to war against Jerusalem
17. Constitution saved when it hangs by a thread
18. Anti-christ rises up before all nations
19. No man can buy or sell without the mark of the beast
20. Renewed persecution of the saints
What else?  What have I missed?

144,000 High Priests chosen  (Rev 7:1-8)
Christ appears at the new Jerusalem Temple  (Dan 7:13-14)
sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds (D  C 88:89-91)
Christ appears on Mount of Olives  (D  C 45:51-52)
an highway shall be cast up in the midst of the great deep (D  C 133:27)
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Re: [ZION] Signs Yet to Come

2003-11-10 Thread Lew Thomas
At 07:45 PM 11/10/2003, you wrote:

I had heard that two apostles will be killed in Jerusalem and be brought
back to life 3 1/2 years before the return of Christ, but have no scriptural
reference for this.
Jon
7  And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that 
ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall 
overcome them, and kill them.
8  And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which 
spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
9  And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see 
their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead 
bodies to be put in graves.
10  And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make 
merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets 
tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
11  And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered 
into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them 
which saw them.
12  And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up 
hither.  And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies 
beheld them.
13  And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of 
the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and 
the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14  The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

(New Testament | Revelation 11:7 - 14)

I'm not sure if the 3 1/2 here is what you are talking about but it is days 
and not years.  The two witnesses shall lie in the street for 3 1/2 days 
and then they shall ascended to heaven

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Re: [ZION] BYU Alumnus Broadcast

2003-11-07 Thread Lew Thomas
At 03:43 PM 11/7/2003, you wrote:

There is a worldwide BYU Alumni satellite broadcast tonight, but I don't 
know the time.  Is anyone here planning to attend?  --JWR
Here is a copy of the email I got about it.

Dear Wasatch Front BYU Alumni:

You are invited to the Tabernacle on Temple Square in Salt Lake City on
FRIDAY, NOV. 7, FROM 7 TO 8 P.M. to hear President Gordon B. Hinckley
and new BYU President Cecil O. Samuelson speak at a Worldwide Alumni 
Gathering.
Because we do not have email addresses for all our BYU alumni and friends, 
please
help us get the word out by inviting your BYU friends to this event.

This event will bring together the entire BYU alumni family at the same 
time as
chapters throughout the world meet locally to hear the broadcast. The evening
will also include musical selections from the popular BYU Men's Chorus.

Admission to the Tabernacle is free, but tickets are required and may be 
obtained at
www.lds.org/events, toll-free at 1-866-537-8457, or at door four of the
Conference Center.

Please note that the Alumni Gathering will not be broadcast live over
the BYU-Television or BYU-Radio satellite networks.
We look forward to joining with you on Nov. 7.

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[ZION] Bit

2003-10-23 Thread Lew Thomas
It looks like I need to put Mr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the delete mail from box

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Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-08 Thread Lew Thomas
At 05:07 AM 10/8/2003, you wrote:
I do not think that anyone in our ward even knows about the page.  I think 
I'm going to give it a try once I get my membership number.  Thanks for the 
comment.  The Savannah First Ward page is really nice you are doing a great 
job.


Grampa Bill replies:
   Yup! Matter of fact, I'm the webmaster--- if the limited functions we 
are allowed to perform can be called those of a webmaster--- of the 
Savannah First Ward of the Savannah Georgia Stake.
Love y'all
Grampa Bill in Savannah
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Re: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-08 Thread Lew Thomas
Nothing is on our page and another member of the stake is the ward 
administrator.  I email her and asked why?   I'm going to try and get it 
going.  I home teach the Bishop and Stake President (and Scoutmaster to 
there boys) and will bring it up to them as nothing is on either.

Thanks for the help.

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Lew
At 08:48 PM 10/8/2003, you wrote:

I log in regularly (usually at least daily), and have done so for a few
years.  Our stake was one of the first 12 to be the guinea pigs.  It is
quite useful.
Jon

- Original Message -
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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 12:48 AM
Subject: [ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages
 Has anyone login to a Stake or Ward Web Page?  They can be found at:
 http://www.lds.org/units/find/0,12831,2311-1,00.html

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[ZION] Ward and Stake Web Pages

2003-10-07 Thread Lew Thomas
Has anyone login to a Stake or Ward Web Page?  They can be found at: 
http://www.lds.org/units/find/0,12831,2311-1,00.html

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