Re: [ZION] THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom
And I believe that as we grow in power and influence, that we will be feared by others, just as in Nauvoo, and attacked. The more we humble ourselves before the Lord, the better we will be able to resist these attacks, but they will come. Jon Stacy Smith wrote: I think that we will grow in power and influence and be a force to be reckoned with but that it will take a few more years. We have to have a very active base, and I don't believe that the majority of the people listed on the rolls are active. Stacy. At 09:00 AM 10/27/2003 -0900, you wrote: I have been reading THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom and I ran across an interesting statement on page 123: And who can believe that the Mormons ever would have turned away from the practice of Celestial Marriage, if it were not for federal pressure? No one, least of all in Salt Lake City, will be much inclined to accept a religious critic's foretellings, but I cheerfully do prophesy that some day, not too far on in the twenty-first century, the Mormons will have enough political and financial power to sanction polygamy again. Without it, in some form or other, the complete vision of Joseph Smith never can be fulfilled. Harold Bloom writes this as an outsider. He is an unbelieving Jew, an American gnostic. I find his statement interesting because I myself have come to the same conclusion for a number of reasons. What do you think? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR /// /// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// /// // -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom
I think that we will grow in power and influence and be a force to be reckoned with but that it will take a few more years. We have to have a very active base, and I don't believe that the majority of the people listed on the rolls are active. Stacy. At 09:00 AM 10/27/2003 -0900, you wrote: I have been reading THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom and I ran across an interesting statement on page 123: And who can believe that the Mormons ever would have turned away from the practice of Celestial Marriage, if it were not for federal pressure? No one, least of all in Salt Lake City, will be much inclined to accept a religious critic's foretellings, but I cheerfully do prophesy that some day, not too far on in the twenty-first century, the Mormons will have enough political and financial power to sanction polygamy again. Without it, in some form or other, the complete vision of Joseph Smith never can be fulfilled. Harold Bloom writes this as an outsider. He is an unbelieving Jew, an American gnostic. I find his statement interesting because I myself have come to the same conclusion for a number of reasons. What do you think? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / -- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom
I have been reading THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom and I ran across an interesting statement on page 123: And who can believe that the Mormons ever would have turned away from the practice of Celestial Marriage, if it were not for federal pressure? No one, least of all in Salt Lake City, will be much inclined to accept a religious critic's foretellings, but I cheerfully do prophesy that some day, not too far on in the twenty-first century, the Mormons will have enough political and financial power to sanction polygamy again. Without it, in some form or other, the complete vision of Joseph Smith never can be fulfilled. Harold Bloom writes this as an outsider. He is an unbelieving Jew, an American gnostic. I find his statement interesting because I myself have come to the same conclusion for a number of reasons. What do you think? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
Re: [ZION] THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom
My feelings about the Principle and its semi-repeal (it's only sort of repealed) is that if it DOES return before The Millenial, it will be because the Lord says to renew it. If it doesn't return, it will because the Lord says not to. It will have nothing to do with the church's political power or lack thereof. If the Lord had wanted the Principle continued in the 19th century, all the soldiers and all the governments of the world couldn't have stopped it. I haven't given it a great deal of thought beyond that. Perhaps the 19th century saints learned what they needed to learn - they definitely learned to depend on each other, and not on the outside world (something which I think we do far too much of today). There's surely more to be revealed. Orson Scott Card wrote that many men willingly went to jail to support the Principle then, and that many more would go to jail today to support the Principle not being brought back. As a sick old man who can barely keep up with one wife, count me among the latter. Only a much more righteous generation than our generation could possibly keep this principle without becoming corrupted -- as it seems several of the 19th century saints were so corrupted. *jeep! --Chet Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you are doing the impossible. On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:00:51 -0900 John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have been reading THE AMERICAN RELIGION by Harold Bloom and I ran across an interesting statement on page 123: And who can believe that the Mormons ever would have turned away from the practice of Celestial Marriage, if it were not for federal pressure? No one, least of all in Salt Lake City, will be much inclined to accept a religious critic's foretellings, but I cheerfully do prophesy that some day, not too far on in the twenty-first century, the Mormons will have enough political and financial power to sanction polygamy again. Without it, in some form or other, the complete vision of Joseph Smith never can be fulfilled. Harold Bloom writes this as an outsider. He is an unbelieving Jew, an American gnostic. I find his statement interesting because I myself have come to the same conclusion for a number of reasons. What do you think? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^