Re: [ZION] flying lessons
Oh, we have our share, and they manage to get around, despite the efforts of our national airline to discourage travel :-/ Gary Smith wrote: > And since Canada has so much open land, they aren't filled with a bunch > of overzealous environmental overseers that whine and complain anytime > the military wants to blow something up. > > K'aya K'ama, > Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www > .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html > "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - > Johann Wolfgang von Goethe > > Marc: > I'd look forward to it. Cold Lake is one of three fighter wing commands > (the > other two being in Ontario and Quebec) for Canadian Forces Air Command > (what used > to be the RCAF, iow) and a lot of NATO training takes place there. The > cruise > missile was tested there, among other places, because the Primrose Lake > Air > Weapons Range resembles the muskeg of large parts of Siberia (and it's > big enough > that if you make a mistake in targetting, it's no big deal!) > > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > > // > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
[ZION] flying lessons
And since Canada has so much open land, they aren't filled with a bunch of overzealous environmental overseers that whine and complain anytime the military wants to blow something up. K'aya K'ama, Gerald/gary Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www .geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html "No one is as hopelessly enslaved as the person who thinks he's free." - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Marc: I'd look forward to it. Cold Lake is one of three fighter wing commands (the other two being in Ontario and Quebec) for Canadian Forces Air Command (what used to be the RCAF, iow) and a lot of NATO training takes place there. The cruise missile was tested there, among other places, because the Primrose Lake Air Weapons Range resembles the muskeg of large parts of Siberia (and it's big enough that if you make a mistake in targetting, it's no big deal!) Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Flying Lessons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Marc Schindler: > > >> (Is Spruce Grove near Cold Lake?) > > > Define close. > > Thanks for the map and info. I didn't realize Spruce Grove > was near Edmonton. I don't define that as close in this > instance. > > I spend two weeks at Cold Lake back in the 80s when I > was flying on the E-3 AWACS (Airborne Warning and > Control System). Had a fun little exercise, militarily > speaking, and I thoroughly enjoyed my stay there and > getting to meet a few of the members. > I'll bet half of them were named Hatch, right? Each of Mark's and my wards, which meet in the same chapel in Spruce Grove (his ward covers, to simplify, the parts of the county west of the city of Spruce Grove itself, such as Stony Plain and Onoway), have a prominent Hatch family (the two men are brothers, and I even dated their younger sister once when I was in university). They all come from Cherry Grove. > > That's also how I knew about the water tower. It was a > very funny story, but you would have to be an air traffic > controller to really understand it, although I might try to > tell it some day if I should happen to feel in top writing > form. > I'd look forward to it. Cold Lake is one of three fighter wing commands (the other two being in Ontario and Quebec) for Canadian Forces Air Command (what used to be the RCAF, iow) and a lot of NATO training takes place there. The cruise missile was tested there, among other places, because the Primrose Lake Air Weapons Range resembles the muskeg of large parts of Siberia (and it's big enough that if you make a mistake in targetting, it's no big deal!) > > Larry Jackson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
RE: [ZION] Flying Lessons
Marc Schindler: >> (Is Spruce Grove near Cold Lake?) > Define close. Thanks for the map and info. I didn't realize Spruce Grove was near Edmonton. I don't define that as close in this instance. I spend two weeks at Cold Lake back in the 80s when I was flying on the E-3 AWACS (Airborne Warning and Control System). Had a fun little exercise, militarily speaking, and I thoroughly enjoyed my stay there and getting to meet a few of the members. That's also how I knew about the water tower. It was a very funny story, but you would have to be an air traffic controller to really understand it, although I might try to tell it some day if I should happen to feel in top writing form. Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
Re: [ZION] Flying Lessons (was Taliban in Pakistan)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Marc Schindler: > Very good! Another week in Moose Jaw for our boy genius :-) > > Larry Jackson: > I think he'll enjoy his fortnight with the Moose Javians. > > Marc: > My cousin's husband ... is tired of rotary wing and wants to > switch to fixed wing. > > Larry: > I work for a place that modifies military aircraft. We call > the helicopter folks our ceiling fan division. > > Marc: > We put the base there because there's nothing to hit that's > higher than a grain elevator) > > Larry: > Except for that water tower five miles out on final approach. > > (Is Spruce Grove near Cold Lake?) > Define close. Their ward is in one of our sister stakes, the Edmonton Bonnie Doon stake, but I would estimate it's a good 3 or 4 hour drive to the NE to Cherry Grove, the closest major city at the SW corner of the base (which, including the Primrose Lake Air Weapons Range, extends well into Saskatchewan -- probably about the size of Connecticut). Here's a map, which doesn't have a scaleso you can figure out how close Cold Lake is by seeing where the Cherry Grove ward is: http://www.gatheringofisrael.com/atlas/north_america/canada/AB_edmonton.gif As you can see, we're on the other side of Edmonton from Cherry Grove, so add an hour to get through greater Edmonton to the trip. Parkland Ward, which is our sister ward, is the one of which Mark Gregson is the bishop. > > Larry Jackson > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > > Only $9.95 per month! > > Visit www.juno.com > > / > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > / > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of the time he will pick himself up and continue on Winston Churchill Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the authors employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^^=== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===
[ZION] Flying Lessons (was Taliban in Pakistan)
Marc Schindler: Very good! Another week in Moose Jaw for our boy genius :-) Larry Jackson: I think he'll enjoy his fortnight with the Moose Javians. Marc: My cousin's husband ... is tired of rotary wing and wants to switch to fixed wing. Larry: I work for a place that modifies military aircraft. We call the helicopter folks our ceiling fan division. Marc: We put the base there because there's nothing to hit that's higher than a grain elevator) Larry: Except for that water tower five miles out on final approach. (Is Spruce Grove near Cold Lake?) Larry Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^
