Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: ZEO in version 3.10 is supposed to work with older clients. Is it also intended to work with older clients running Python 2.4? The server needs to run on Python 2.5 due to the with statement. The docs explicitly state that Python 2.4 is no longer supported at all. Go with the times and use Python 2.6 or 2.7 ;) Hanno ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On 07/29/2010 02:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 1:20 PM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: ZEO in version 3.10 is supposed to work with older clients. Is it also intended to work with older clients running Python 2.4? The server needs to run on Python 2.5 due to the with statement. The docs explicitly state that Python 2.4 is no longer supported at all. Go with the times and use Python 2.6 or 2.7 ;) The docs also say that ZEO supports older clients. The application that I currently have in mind has no chance of moving from Python 2.4 but probably would benefit from a threaded ZEO server which I'd like to verify. Christian -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: On 07/29/2010 02:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: The docs explicitly state that Python 2.4 is no longer supported at all. Go with the times and use Python 2.6 or 2.7 ;) The docs also say that ZEO supports older clients. The application that I currently have in mind has no chance of moving from Python 2.4 but probably would benefit from a threaded ZEO server which I'd like to verify. I think we discussed the Python version support policy on this list in regard to the changes to exception classes. It's documented pretty clearly: ZODB 3.10 requires Python 2.5 or later. Note -- When using ZEO and upgrading from Python 2.4, you need to upgrade clients and servers at the same time, or upgrade clients first and then servers. Clients running Python 2.5 or 2.6 will work with servers running Python 2.4. Clients running Python 2.4 won't work properly with servers running Python 2.5 or later due to changes in the way Python implements exceptions. So the ZODB 3.10 server requires 2.5. You cannot run clients with Python 2.4 with a server running 2.5. Therefor you will have to update the application at some point. Hanno ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On 07/29/2010 02:55 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: On 07/29/2010 02:42 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: The docs explicitly state that Python 2.4 is no longer supported at all. Go with the times and use Python 2.6 or 2.7 ;) The docs also say that ZEO supports older clients. The application that I currently have in mind has no chance of moving from Python 2.4 but probably would benefit from a threaded ZEO server which I'd like to verify. I think we discussed the Python version support policy on this list in regard to the changes to exception classes. It's documented pretty clearly: ZODB 3.10 requires Python 2.5 or later. Note -- When using ZEO and upgrading from Python 2.4, you need to upgrade clients and servers at the same time, or upgrade clients first and then servers. Clients running Python 2.5 or 2.6 will work with servers running Python 2.4. Clients running Python 2.4 won't work properly with servers running Python 2.5 or later due to changes in the way Python implements exceptions. Thanks for digging this out. I'll try to find the discussion and refresh my memory. So the ZODB 3.10 server requires 2.5. You cannot run clients with Python 2.4 with a server running 2.5. Therefor you will have to update the application at some point. Darn. That kinda invalidates the point of supporting older clients, though. :/ -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: ZEO in version 3.10 is supposed to work with older clients. Is it also intended to work with older clients running Python 2.4? No, see: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013268.html and, especially: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013269.html Jim -- Jim Fulton ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Christian Theune c...@gocept.com wrote: Thanks for digging this out. I'll try to find the discussion and refresh my memory. See for example your response here https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013269.html ;-) And Andreas was the only one responding to the Python 2.5 upgrade proposal at https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2009-December/013085.html Hanno ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On 07/29/2010 03:03 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: Thanks for digging this out. I'll try to find the discussion and refresh my memory. See for example your response here https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013269.html ;-) And Andreas was the only one responding to the Python 2.5 upgrade proposal at https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2009-December/013085.html Yeah, looks like I shot myself in the foot with that response. :) -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
Re: [ZODB-Dev] ZEO in v3.10 with older clients and older Python
On 07/29/2010 03:02 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Christian Theunec...@gocept.com wrote: ZEO in version 3.10 is supposed to work with older clients. Is it also intended to work with older clients running Python 2.4? No, see: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013268.html and, especially: https://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zodb-dev/2010-April/013269.html Yup, found it. Dug my own hole there ... -- Christian Theune · c...@gocept.com gocept gmbh co. kg · forsterstraße 29 · 06112 halle (saale) · germany http://gocept.com · tel +49 345 1229889 0 · fax +49 345 1229889 1 Zope and Plone consulting and development ___ For more information about ZODB, see the ZODB Wiki: http://www.zope.org/Wikis/ZODB/ ZODB-Dev mailing list - ZODB-Dev@zope.org https://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zodb-dev
