Re: [Zope] Zope Digest, Vol 127, Issue 3

2015-05-17 Thread Rich Harley
Thanks both. .body() is the simple answer, .read() also works.
Rich


 
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 Subject: [Zope] Iterating over objects in ZODB
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 When iterating over dtml objects, the contents of those scripts can be 
 returned:
 
 e.g.
 
 for item in context.objectValues():
 if item.meta_type=='DTML Method?:
 print item
 
 
 But when iterating over Python Scripts, only:
 
 PythonScript at handleday
 
 is returned. How can I access the actual contents of the Python Script?
 
 Thanks
 Rich
 
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 Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 13:57:30 +0200
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 Am Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2015, 11:36:03 schrieb Rich Harley:
 is returned. How can I access the actual contents of the Python Script?
 The python script object seems a bit more complex then a DTML-Method object - 
 means you have to access the script content of the python script object 
 directly (not shure if it's params and body - have to look into Zope help 
 (PythonScript.py) or Zope sources for the exact field).
 
 regarduing the object docs it shoudl work with .read() directly (if it IS a 
 PythonScript object) or document_src:
 
def read():

 
Return the body of the Python Script, with a special comment
block prepended.  This block contains meta-data in the form of
comment lines as expected by the 'write' method.
 

def document_src(REQUEST=None, RESPONSE=None):

 
Return the text of the 'read' method, with content type
'text/plain' set on the RESPONSE.
 

 
 
 hth a bit and works,
 
 
 Niels.
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 obj.body()
 
 
 On 13 May 2015, Niels Dettenbach n...@syndicat.com wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2015, 11:36:03 schrieb Rich Harley:
 is returned. How can I access the actual contents of the Python Script?
 The python script object seems a bit more complex then a DTML-Method object 
 -
 means you have to access the script content of the python script object
 directly (not shure if it's params and body - have to look into Zope help
 (PythonScript.py) or Zope sources for the exact field).
 
 regarduing the object docs it shoudl work with .read() directly (if it IS a
 PythonScript object) or document_src:
 
 def read():
 
 
 Return the body of the Python Script, with a special comment
 block prepended. This block contains meta-data in the form of
 comment lines as expected by the 'write' method.
 
 
 def document_src(REQUEST=None, RESPONSE=None):
 
 
 Return the text of the 'read' method, with content type
 'text/plain' set on the RESPONSE.
 
 
 
 
 hth a bit and works,
 
 
 Niels.
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[Zope] Iterating over objects in ZODB

2015-05-13 Thread Rich Harley
When iterating over dtml objects, the contents of those scripts can be returned:

e.g.

for item in context.objectValues():
 if item.meta_type=='DTML Method’:
 print item


But when iterating over Python Scripts, only:

PythonScript at handleday

is returned. How can I access the actual contents of the Python Script?

Thanks
Rich
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody willing 
to move it forward.

It’s pretty obvious the various parts that make up the community like mailing 
lists, website, forums etc have been dead or dying for a long time.

Will Zope ever get back to 2005-2006 levels…? See : 
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=zope


Rich

On 11 Mar 2014, at 23:07, Sean Upton sdup...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com wrote:
 When I try to visit the mailing list web interface, Firefox is
 stopped in its tracks by Secure Connection Failed An error occurred
 during a connection to mail.zope.org. The OCSP server has no status
 for the certificate. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert)
 
 There are two problems with HTTPS on mail.zope.org:  our own certificate
 is expired, and the issuer (StartCom) has an intermediate certificate
 which expired even longer ago:
 
  http://www.sslshopper.com/ssl-checker.html#hostname=mail.zope.org/
 
 I hope there is some luck folks having with resolving this.  One can
 always take the approach Jim took with ZODB-dev, moving it to Google
 Groups, but there is real value in the archives regardless of where
 the current lists live.  And the archives are de-facto inaccessible
 now -- if nothing else, the archives could be hosted on any static
 HTTP site and would not need any SSL/TLS/certificate burden.
 
 Sean
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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rich Harley wrote:
 It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody 
 willing to move it forward.
 
 The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be.

It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, it’s that anyone building 
a new application will not use Zope, which is clearly a problem for longevity 
since in another 3 years there will be even less people using Zope as more and 
more legacy applications get rewritten. 

Personally we are very embedded with Zope 2.11. It’s excellent for what we are 
using it for and we are incredibly grateful of the community that built that 
product over the last 10 years. We use Zope in a very simple way for just 
holding python code, handling roles and connecting out to a Postgres DB but 
there are other frameworks which would do the same thing in a leaner way now. 
Still, we are not looking to rewrite because it does what we need well, 
although the version control is more hassle than it should be.

 What is the problem here?

The problem is how to attract new developers to rebuild a Zope fit for life 
from 2015+. That would mean making the framework more modern in every sense but 
still retaining the features that made Zope great in the past like excellent 
security handling and a quick development cycle. This is not an easy task and 
would probably involve some rebranding as the Zope name is now associated with 
an old framework.


 The decade of the large application servers and frameworks is over.

Possibly but Zope could have moved with the times and evolved with the momentum 
it had 5 years ago instead of being usurped by frameworks like Django and 
Turbogears which any python dev would choose over Zope in a heartbeat these 
days if they wanted to build a scalable application. This is what needs to be 
addressed - or is it your opinion that Zope will die and there’s nothing we can 
do about it? That seems a shame to me.

Rich



 
 
 It’s pretty obvious the various parts that make up the community like 
 mailing lists, website, forums etc have been dead or dying for a long time.
 
 Will Zope ever get back to 2005-2006 levels…? See : 
 http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=zope
 
 
 
 -aj

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley


On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rich Harley wrote:
 On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Rich Harley wrote:
 It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody 
 willing to move it forward.
 The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be.
 
 It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, 
 
 Why?

I am not disputing Zope is/was a great open source project.


 
 
 The problem is how to attract new developers to rebuild a Zope fit for life 
 from 2015+. That would mean making the framework more modern in every sense 
 but still retaining the features that made Zope great in the past like 
 excellent security handling and a quick development cycle. This is not an 
 easy task and would probably involve some rebranding as the Zope name is now 
 associated with an old framework.
 
 
 The decade of the large application servers and frameworks is over.
 
 Possibly but Zope could have moved with the times and evolved with the 
 momentum it had 5 years ago instead of being usurped by frameworks like 
 Django and Turbogears which any python dev would choose over Zope in a 
 heartbeat these days if they wanted to build a scalable application. This is 
 what needs to be addressed - or is it your opinion that Zope will die and 
 there’s nothing we can do about it? That seems a shame to me.
 
 Zope lives as long as someone uses it (Plone uses it).

Plone is going the same way of declining usage and development over the last 
3-5 years.

 Apart from that:
 the  project live from the contributions and contributors. The Zope
 world is kind of a legacy and it is unlikely at this will change.
 Keep it alive somehow to the point as you need by taking over
 responsibility. Do you step up for a particular task?

Good response:) No I don’t step up right now, too busy with our own codebase. 
But we would love to take the project forward in the future when we are a 
bigger company. 

Is the Zope 4 project still alive that was talked about in 2011?










 
 Andreas

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Re: [Zope] Zope.org fading away ..

2014-03-12 Thread Rich Harley
You were misunderstanding me, I am not claiming that. I said It’s not that 
Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, it’s that anyone building a new 
application will not use Zope”

I am saying there is nothing wrong with the open sourceness of Zope. That 
wasn’t very clear, apologies.

My concerns are solely around Zope moving forward over the next few years and 
how we can best achieve a community feel around Zope - or a deviate of Zope 
-once again.

Rich




On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:43, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:

 Rich Harley wrote:
 
 On 12 Mar 2014, at 11:08, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Rich Harley wrote:
 On 12 Mar 2014, at 10:05, zopyxfil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Rich Harley wrote:
 It might be better if the whole zope project is handed over to somebody 
 willing to move it forward.
 The whole Zope project is as open as an open-source project can be.
 It’s not that Zope isn’t as open source as it can be, 
 Why?
 
 I am not disputing Zope is/was a great open source project.
 
 Why do you claim that Zope is not as open as it can be? What is
 missing? Where is Zope not open? Please be specific.
 
 
 -aj
 

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[Zope-DB] Checkboxes selecting records...

2006-02-11 Thread Rich Harley
Hi all

Not sure if I'm on the right lines with what I'm trying to do below.

I have a list of records that come from a database select query (dtml-in 
horses). Next to each record is a check box. I want to be able to select the 
checkbox of x number of records, submit the form and see just those records, 
minus the ones I didn't check. This will be the confirm page. When I have 
confirmed my selections, the said records should then be stored on a page so 
I can view them later, like a permanent select query I suppose that I can 
view at any time. For each time I select and confirm some records, a new 
page, with those records on, should be created. Am I correct in guessing I 
have to use the id as the identifier? I've got as far as passing the results 
of the checkbox form onto onto the confirm page - but only displaying 1,2,3 
etc or whichever ones I check. How can I get records with id 1,2,3 out of the 
database table? Then can those records be saved onto a html page for use 
later? I'm using mysql, if that makes any difference.

Sorry for all the (probably simple) questions!

Thanks in advance.

Rich

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[Zope] Re: live dtml updating?

2005-12-11 Thread Rich Harley
On Sunday 11 December 2005 22:30, you wrote:
  Hi all
 
  Sorry if this is not a specific zope question but I'm confident someone
  will be able to help me with the following.
 
  I have an input form on a webpage and below it a table which pulls out of
  a database. The column headers in the table relate to the input form in
  that I want whatever the user types into the input box for the correct
  column to be highlighted in bold. So say, for example I had two columns A
  and B I want column B to be highlighted bold when the user types 'b' into
  the input box

 at

  the top. How can I do this?

 Rich

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