[Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread Albert Boulanger



This was the item is was looking for on how big the Members folders was,
FYI.

From:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1


Zope Web

  by Ethan Fremen

 Exorcising Zope.org

  The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
  "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.

  The ever resourceful Shane Hathaway jumped in with his
BTreeFolders for both the acl_users folder and the Members
  folder.

  Now, instead of 26,000 objects loaded at once, only about 1,000 or
so get loaded.



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Re: [Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread J. Atwood

I would also think that the size has grown in the last two months.

Cheers,
J


At 12:47 PM -0500 11/29/2000, Albert Boulanger wrote:
This was the item is was looking for on how big the Members folders was,
FYI.

From:

http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1


Zope Web

   by Ethan Fremen

  Exorcising Zope.org

   The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
   "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.

   The ever resourceful Shane Hathaway jumped in with his
BTreeFolders for both the acl_users folder and the Members
   folder.

   Now, instead of 26,000 objects loaded at once, only about 1,000 or
so get loaded.



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Re: [Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread albert boulanger


Now, I wonder wich statement is more accurate:

   http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1
   
   
   Zope Web
   
  by Ethan Fremen
   
 Exorcising Zope.org
   
  The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
   folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
  "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.

or

From: 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-11-08


"Zope Web

   by Ethan Fremen

How Many Zopatistas?

[]

There are 1617 members of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 409 members of
zope-dev. There are 200,000 unique visits to zope.org every month (ok,
that's a record :).

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Re: [Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread Jimmie Houchin

I would have to say that both are accurate at the time they were given.
However, neither will be a truly accurate measurement of the users of
Zope and the Zope community.

They each measure different things. One measures the people who have
"joined" Zope.org.
"""The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!)"""
The other measures subscribers to the mailing list.
"""There are 1617 members of [EMAIL PROTECTED]"""

There are a few people who have different identities on the Zope
memberships. There will also be possible duplication on the mailing list
due to different email addresses. There are also people who neither join
Zope.org nor subscribe to the mailing list, but who have nevertheless
downloaded and use Zope.

There also are people who have been on the mailing lists, learned and
then subsequently left the lists, but still use Zope. There are also
those who no longer do.

So, who knows what an accurate figure would be? 
And I can't tell you if there are any dimpled chads. :)
But as you can see there are many more unique visitors than either of
the numbers.

Also, keep in mind that the Zope community on [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an active
and vibrant community. As Zope matures, grows into it's own and the
documentation catches up, it will get even better. The future is bright.
:)

Jimmie Houchin


albert boulanger wrote:
 
 Now, I wonder wich statement is more accurate:
 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1


Zope Web

   by Ethan Fremen

  Exorcising Zope.org

   The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
   "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.
 
 or
 
 From:
 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-11-08
 
 "Zope Web
 
by Ethan Fremen
 
 How Many Zopatistas?
 
 []
 
 There are 1617 members of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 409 members of
 zope-dev. There are 200,000 unique visits to zope.org every month (ok,
 that's a record :).

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Re: [Zope] Ah, I found it -- Estimate of community size

2000-11-29 Thread Tres Seaver

albert boulanger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Now, I wonder wich statement is more accurate:
 
http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-09-26/index_html?pp=1


Zope Web

   by Ethan Fremen

  Exorcising Zope.org

   The extremely large Members folder (11139 of you!) and acl_users
folder was causing Zope.org to load nearly 50 MB of
   "Ghosts" - stateless objects - into memory.

 
 or
 
 From:
 http://www.zope.org/Documentation/ZWN/ZWN-2000-11-08
 
 "Zope Web
 
by Ethan Fremen
 
 How Many Zopatistas?
 
 []
 
 There are 1617 members of [EMAIL PROTECTED] and 409 members of
 zope-dev. There are 200,000 unique visits to zope.org every month (ok,
 that's a record :).

All items are factual, and accurate for the dates they were posted.
Which is more "interesting" is an exercise in punditry:

 * 11000+ members have signed up on the www.zope.org website.

 * 1617 people subscribe to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, which seems
   to average 70+ messages per day (2000+ per month).

 * 409 subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which runs around 20 messages
   per day / 600 per month.

 * The zope.org websites have been averaging 200,000 unique visits
   per month.

Tres.
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