Re: [Zope] CMS/publishing system

2000-11-03 Thread Toby Dickenson

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 08:45:12 -0600 , Pete Prodoehl
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How well does Zope integrate applications/cgi's written in ASP, Cold Fusion,
Perl, etc...? As we've got a number of things we'd prefer to keep as is, and
run alongside Zope.

How much integration do you need?

You say "run alongside". is it enough to run Zope and CF behind
the same Apache? Apache integrates the two in a single URL namespace,
but keeping the application logic separate?



Toby Dickenson
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[Zope] CMS/publishing system

2000-11-03 Thread Spicklemire, Jerry

Pete asked:

 How well does Zope integrate applications/cgi's written in ASP, 
 Cold Fusion, Perl, etc...? As we've got a number of things we'd 
 prefer to keep as is, and run alongside Zope.

and added:

 Is it possible? I'm thinking that with Apache and mod_rewrite 
 it would be doable (using file extensions to map the request), 
 but I'm not sure how that might work under IIS or within Zope...

Yes, the mod_rewrite approach is a very common way to serve 
from both Apache and Zope, e.g. static pages / images from 
Apache, dynamic stuff from Zope. In fact, that's how Zope.org 
was set up for quite awhile, and may still be (don't know the 
details).

There are many refernces to this topic in the mail list archives.
Try searching at :

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists.html

For more intimate integration with existing Perl stuff, see:

http://lists.zope.org/pipermail/zope-perl/

CMS is the latest buzzword for Web Application Development, AKA 
WorkFlow, Distributed Applications, etc. Zope is perfectly at 
home with this paradigm, whatever the nom du jour!

Later,
Jerry S.


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[Zope] CMS/publishing system

2000-11-02 Thread Pete Prodoehl

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I'm looking for opinions on Zope being used as a CMS/publishing system.
Here's some rough notes on our situation and my thoughts on Zope.

We run NT now, but would like the option of migrating to *nix. (Zope runs on
both.)

We want to deploy across 50+ sites. (Since it's open source, we'd spend our
money on customization/development rather than licensing fees.)

We'd prefer a browser based administration system. (Zope's already got a
very good one.)

Some questions I have are:

How well does Zope integrate applications/cgi's written in ASP, Cold Fusion,
Perl, etc...? As we've got a number of things we'd prefer to keep as is, and
run alongside Zope.

How does Zope deal with serving virtual domains off of a single NT box? What
approach would that require?

Zope looks like a really nice platform, any real-world evaluations would be
most appreciated...
(Besides what I've read on www.zope.org)

thanks...


Pete






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Re: [Zope] CMS/publishing system

2000-11-02 Thread Tino Wildenhain

Pete Prodoehl schrieb:
...snipp...
 
 We want to deploy across 50+ sites. (Since it's open source, we'd spend our
 money on customization/development rather than licensing fees.)
 
 We'd prefer a browser based administration system. (Zope's already got a
 very good one.)

Yes, its very good, but could be better. Its currently too hard wired I
think.
 
 Some questions I have are:
 
 How well does Zope integrate applications/cgi's written in ASP, Cold Fusion,
 Perl, etc...? As we've got a number of things we'd prefer to keep as is, and
 run alongside Zope.

Nope. You should take the chance to reimplement them. You get better
performance
and much cleaner solutions (better to maintain and more secure) then any
of the
mentioned solutions allow. Many things are better done completely
different in 
zope.

 How does Zope deal with serving virtual domains off of a single NT box? What
 approach would that require?

There are several options. One of it is site-access (product at
zope.org)
You can also server different instances of zope off the same server
(using
different ports and apache or squid in front as dispatcher)
 
 Zope looks like a really nice platform, any real-world evaluations would be
 most appreciated...

We are currently implementing a light CMS. So stay tuned... ;)

Regards
Tino Wildenhain

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RE: [Zope] CMS/publishing system

2000-11-02 Thread Pete Prodoehl


 How well does Zope integrate applications/cgi's written in ASP, Cold
Fusion,
 Perl, etc...? As we've got a number of things we'd prefer to keep as is,
and
 run alongside Zope.

Nope. You should take the chance to reimplement them. You get better
performance and much cleaner solutions (better to maintain and more 
secure) then any of the mentioned solutions allow. Many things are 
better done completely different in zope.

argh... That's not a good answer. Is it possible? I'm thinking that with
Apache and mod_rewrite it would be doable (using file extensions to map the
request), but I'm not sure how that might work under IIS or within Zope...
There are some systems in place that are either, large/legacy/developed by
others/etc that we can't simply reimplement in Zope... Plus, I'd consider it
a big plus for Zope if I could run apps written in other
languages/environments without too much of a hassle.


Pete


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