Re: [Zope] Higher Education
Phil Langton wrote: As for a name, how about ZEN? Connotations of enlightenment and could stand for 'Zope Education Network' That would be a name clash--Zope Zen is defined as enlightenment in the art of Zope. ;-) I think we should back away from the naming issue and just see what comes out of Zope-Edu. Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
Phil Langton wrote: Someone has mentioned that Digital Creations has taken on someone who is to implement a zope-based virtual learning environment tool kit. Is this so? Any mailing lists or contacts or test areas? You're probably referring to me. I haven't taken an active role in this area recently because of the time it takes to get married (January/February), change jobs (March/April), move across the country (April), and get settled in a new area. :-) The zope-edu project was doing well for a while but we were unable to define the scope of the project. There are a lot of facets involved and everybody was approaching it with a very different perspective. And nobody knew the technology well enough: it's too easy to re-implement things in Zope that have already been done by others. A battle ensued over naming conventions (ZSchool? ZopeEdu? Something else?) and the mailing list eventually reached an activity level of zero. We could start again with a new approach: a Wiki! Wikis work very well for initial designs. We could take the good posts from pi.slcc.edu and put them into the Wiki right away. How many are still interested in this? Shane ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
Shane, Thanks for the reply. There will be interest in Bristol (probably). A wiki sounds like a good way to start, let's see what falls out of the ether! As for a name, how about ZEN? Connotations of enlightenment and could stand for 'Zope Education Network' Phil On Fri, 26 May 2000 09:35:24 -0400 Shane Hathaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil Langton wrote: Someone has mentioned that Digital Creations has taken on someone who is to implement a zope-based virtual learning environment tool kit. Is this so? Any mailing lists or contacts or test areas? You're probably referring to me. I haven't taken an active role in this area recently because of the time it takes to get married (January/February), change jobs (March/April), move across the country (April), and get settled in a new area. :-) The zope-edu project was doing well for a while but we were unable to define the scope of the project. There are a lot of facets involved and everybody was approaching it with a very different perspective. And nobody knew the technology well enough: it's too easy to re-implement things in Zope that have already been done by others. A battle ensued over naming conventions (ZSchool? ZopeEdu? Something else?) and the mailing list eventually reached an activity level of zero. We could start again with a new approach: a Wiki! Wikis work very well for initial designs. We could take the good posts from pi.slcc.edu and put them into the Wiki right away. How many are still interested in this? Shane === Phil Langton. Dept. Physiology, School of Medical Sciences, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1TD Tel: 44 (117) 928-8923; Fax: 44 (117) 928-8923 http://www.bris.ac.uk/Depts/Physiology/Staff/PDL/web_pdl.htm "But whatis it good for" (Engineer with the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM refering to the microchip in 1968) === ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
Phil Langton wrote: Someone has mentioned that Digital Creations has taken on someone who is to implement a zope-based virtual learning environment tool kit. Is this so? Any mailing lists or contacts or test areas? You're probably referring to me. I haven't taken an active role in this area recently because of the time it takes to get married (January/February), change jobs (March/April), move across the country (April), and get settled in a new area. :-) The zope-edu project was doing well for a while but we were unable to define the scope of the project. There are a lot of facets involved and everybody was approaching it with a very different perspective. And nobody knew the technology well enough: it's too easy to re-implement things in Zope that have already been done by others. A battle ensued over naming conventions (ZSchool? ZopeEdu? Something else?) and the mailing list eventually reached an activity level of zero. Which IMHO was actually mainly due to the maillist server severely suffering from outage and millenium bugs, because before that I recall discussions were very much alive, and of a high quality. We could start again with a new approach: a Wiki! Wikis work very well for initial designs. We could take the good posts from pi.slcc.edu and put them into the Wiki right away. How many are still interested in this? I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing jobs as well, which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. So - yes I'm still interested Shane. Rik ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: How many are still interested in this? I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing jobs as well, which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. So - yes I'm still interested Shane. I'm still very much interested in this. School's out in a week or so, and I plan to work hard this summer worked on developing Zope stuff to be used here at school. I would love to renew the discussions. -Tim -- Tim Wilson | Visit Sibley online: | Check out: Henry Sibley HS | http://www.isd197.k12.mn.us/ | http://www.zope.org/ W. St. Paul, MN | | http://slashdot.org/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | dtml-var pithy_quote | http://linux.com/ ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
On Fri, 26 May 2000, Timothy Wilson wrote: On Fri, 26 May 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: How many are still interested in this? I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing jobs as well, which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. So - yes I'm still interested Shane. I'm still very much interested in this. School's out in a week or so, and I plan to work hard this summer worked on developing Zope stuff to be used here at school. I would love to renew the discussions. You know, there's the python edu-sig (http://www.python.org/sigs/edu-sig) - i wonder whether there's some point in crossing over the efforts? On the plus side, there's a number of educators there with real interest in teaching programming in a good way, on the minus side, their charter is pretty much python oriented, and zope may be a more narrow context than they would wish to dwell within. I mean, i'm not sure how the slightly different agendas would work out... Ken Manheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] Higher Education
|-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of |Timothy Wilson |Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:44 PM |To: Rik Hoekstra |Cc: Shane Hathaway; Phil Langton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [Zope] Higher Education | | |On Fri, 26 May 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: | | How many are still interested in this? | | I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am | still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I | even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product | because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing |jobs as well, | which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. | | So - yes I'm still interested Shane. | |I'm still very much interested in this. School's out in a week or so, and I |plan to work hard this summer worked on developing Zope stuff to be used |here at school. I would love to renew the discussions. | |-Tim Where do i find out how to subscribe to the zope-edu list? It doesn't seem to be listed on http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists tmia, ~c ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Higher Education
-Original Message- From: Charlie Derr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: vrijdag 26 mei 2000 21:28 Subject: RE: [Zope] Higher Education |-Original Message- |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of |Timothy Wilson |Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:44 PM |To: Rik Hoekstra |Cc: Shane Hathaway; Phil Langton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [Zope] Higher Education | | |On Fri, 26 May 2000, Rik Hoekstra wrote: | | How many are still interested in this? | | I was among one of the first to be active in the zope-edu list and I am | still interested and even working on a product for course maintenance. I | even sent Shane an immature snapshot, but had to reimplement the product | because of nesting ZClasses (sigh). Moreover, I was changing |jobs as well, | which did not exactly help in getting things from the ground. | | So - yes I'm still interested Shane. | |I'm still very much interested in this. School's out in a week or so, and I |plan to work hard this summer worked on developing Zope stuff to be used |here at school. I would love to renew the discussions. | |-Tim Where do i find out how to subscribe to the zope-edu list? It doesn't seem to be listed on http://www.zope.org/Resources/MailingLists Look at the sourceforge address mentioned before http://sourceforge.net/project/?group_id=3093 Rik ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
