Re: [Zope] Status of HiperDom, again ;-) (Re: [Zope] Presentation & Object Model)
- Original Message - From: "Lalo Martins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [Zope] Status of HiperDom, again ;-) (Re: [Zope] Presentation & Object Model) | On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 04:08:06PM +0100, Martijn Pieters wrote: | > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:00:47PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: | > > The only thing that *can* happen before that, if I feel like it | > > and have a free weekend, is a version of HiperDom based on 4DOM | > > instead of the old xml-sig code. Version 1.0 definitely *will* | > > be based on 4DOM, as that is the official DOM now for both Zope | > > and Python, so I'd like to tackle that ASAP, but I don't think | > > that will be possible as soon as I'd like it. | > | > Note that the 4DOM DOM is *not* the official Zope DOM to be used; it is | > deemed (amongst other reasons) to be too heavy for Zope use. | | No? I thought there was a 4thought/DC partnership in this | direction. Not any more it seems, a message on the Zope-xml list from Chimezie Ogbuji says that the two (DC and 4Thoght) have parted way due to 'strategic' differences :( Oh well back to doing my own xslt document thingy. Phil ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Status of HiperDom, again ;-) (Re: [Zope] Presentation & Object Model)
On Fri, Dec 01, 2000 at 04:08:06PM +0100, Martijn Pieters wrote: > On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:00:47PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > > The only thing that *can* happen before that, if I feel like it > > and have a free weekend, is a version of HiperDom based on 4DOM > > instead of the old xml-sig code. Version 1.0 definitely *will* > > be based on 4DOM, as that is the official DOM now for both Zope > > and Python, so I'd like to tackle that ASAP, but I don't think > > that will be possible as soon as I'd like it. > > Note that the 4DOM DOM is *not* the official Zope DOM to be used; it is > deemed (amongst other reasons) to be too heavy for Zope use. No? I thought there was a 4thought/DC partnership in this direction. []s, |alo + -- Hack and Roll ( http://www.hackandroll.org ) The biggest site for whatever-it-is-that-we-are. http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key: http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo/pessoal/pgp Brazil of Darkness (RPG)--- http://zope.gf.com.br/BroDar ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Status of HiperDom, again ;-) (Re: [Zope] Presentation & Object Model)
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 03:00:47PM -0200, Lalo Martins wrote: > The only thing that *can* happen before that, if I feel like it > and have a free weekend, is a version of HiperDom based on 4DOM > instead of the old xml-sig code. Version 1.0 definitely *will* > be based on 4DOM, as that is the official DOM now for both Zope > and Python, so I'd like to tackle that ASAP, but I don't think > that will be possible as soon as I'd like it. Note that the 4DOM DOM is *not* the official Zope DOM to be used; it is deemed (amongst other reasons) to be too heavy for Zope use. Zope will, at some point in the future, support *a* DOM Level 2 interface, so as long as you stick to using only API calls that are compiant with that spec you should be fine. Anything will be better than trying to find that ole python-xml release wich still has a 'core.py' file to patch ;) -- Martijn Pieters | Software Engineer mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Digital Creations http://www.digicool.com/ | Creators of Zope http://www.zope.org/ - ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Status of HiperDom, again ;-) (Re: [Zope] Presentation & Object Model)
On Thu, Nov 30, 2000 at 01:20:06PM +, Chris Withers wrote: > Paul Everitt wrote: > > > > > Brian veto'd it, declaring it too ambitious. He's basically waiting for > > Zope to better figure out how to keep presentation separate from the object > > model. > > Been pretty quiet on the lists WRT HiperDOM, which I got the impression > was going to be about this. Are there any DC initiatives into this? > > Lalo, any word from the trenches? ;-) As I said, HiperDom is "stable", in that it can be used in production as is (IMHO). It's not 1.0 because it lacks documentation *and* we (I, Hiper and DC) would like to add some features before that. The current effort is on documentation. We have me and Martijn Pieters working on this officially (our base is the Wiki on dev.zope.org) and me and Michel Pelletier extra-oficially writing a more user-oriented manual in ZopeBook style. Any development of these "a few more features" is postponed to after the discussion about them in the Wiki settles down. The only thing that *can* happen before that, if I feel like it and have a free weekend, is a version of HiperDom based on 4DOM instead of the old xml-sig code. Version 1.0 definitely *will* be based on 4DOM, as that is the official DOM now for both Zope and Python, so I'd like to tackle that ASAP, but I don't think that will be possible as soon as I'd like it. []s, |alo + -- Hack and Roll ( http://www.hackandroll.org ) The biggest site for whatever-it-is-that-we-are. http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key: http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo/pessoal/pgp Brazil of Darkness (RPG)--- http://zope.gf.com.br/BroDar ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
