RE: [Zope] ZBabel performance??
Wow! From 1) to 2) - both you and Zope DELIVER 1) "I can look at adding caching into ZBabel, but, it's not high on my priority list at the moment... I'm currently pounding the bricks. I'll try to make time over the weekend to have a look (I may be able to use the Zope Machinery to do the caching)." Sent: Fri 7/21/00 10:31 AM 2) I've added caching of phrase lookups using the ZSQL Methods caching facilties, it should cache up to 1,000 different phrases for 60 seconds. There is a 0.0.2 release on zope.org now. http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel/ Sent: Fri 7/21/00 1:56 PM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Kenneth Milton Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] ZBabel performance?? +[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]- Snip... | translated. However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands | of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel I've added caching of phrase lookups using the ZSQL Methods caching facilties, it should cache up to 1,000 different phrases for 60 seconds. There is a 0.0.2 release on zope.org now. http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel/ -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
RE: [Zope] ZBabel performance??
For non-cacheable pages that can't be speeded up by a reverse proxy, there might be two other possibilities worth looking at as well. If Zbabel is mainly needed for the production/maintenance of translations rather than for really dynamic pages it might be possible to use ZMirror for semi-static per language templates generated by ZBabel that get combined dynamically with the dynamic non-translated bits. For really dynamic translations, if the database hits are still too much for some users, despite being read only and therefore usually in buffers, it might be possible to copy the maintenance ZBabel database stored in a persistent SQL database from the management screens into a RAM Gadfly database used by the actual page generation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Kenneth Milton Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Zope] ZBabel performance?? +[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]- | Hi, | | I was able to install and test the ZBabel product. | Very nice product indeed!! I have a question about performance.. Thanks :-) [...snip...] | However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands | of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel | do that? or is there a way to do that? If you are passing query_string parameters into your page you will not be able to cache the pages anyway. If a page is cacheable then you can setup a HTTP accellerator in front of Zope that will cache the rendered pages. I don't know what your current network topology is like, so it's a little hard to comment. I can look at adding caching into ZBabel, but, it's not high on my priority list at the moment... I'm currently pounding the bricks. I'll try to make time over the weekend to have a look (I may be able to use the Zope Machinery to do the caching). | I do not want to hit the database | everytime someone requests that page.. Our site is usually translated to 5 | languages and we had developed a Perl script that would read php tags and | create static pages becuase of that problem, and in this case we do not | know at all what happend in eth backend.. Out of interest how many hits per hour are you doing? I worked on a largish portal system (ASP *puke*) and they had no problem going to the DB very very frequently. The key for the phrase is 32 bytes, it should be very quick to look up, even in a poorly tuned MySQL. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] ZBabel performance??
Hi, I was able to install and test the ZBabel product. Very nice product indeed!! I have a question about performance.. I saved the translated text into an MySQL database, and ZBabel automatically inserted the text to be translated into the database, I went ahead and translated the text, and bingo it magically appeared as translated. However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel do that? or is there a way to do that? I do not want to hit the database everytime someone requests that page.. Our site is usually translated to 5 languages and we had developed a Perl script that would read php tags and create static pages becuase of that problem, and in this case we do not know at all what happend in eth backend.. Thanks in advance.. Adonis -- Adonis El Fakih - President, CEO -- EGS, Inc. 70 Boston Road, Suite A301, Chelmsford MA 01824 USA Fax (978) 244-0544 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZBabel performance??
+[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]- | Hi, | | I was able to install and test the ZBabel product. | Very nice product indeed!! I have a question about performance.. Thanks :-) [...snip...] | However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands | of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel | do that? or is there a way to do that? If you are passing query_string parameters into your page you will not be able to cache the pages anyway. If a page is cacheable then you can setup a HTTP accellerator in front of Zope that will cache the rendered pages. I don't know what your current network topology is like, so it's a little hard to comment. I can look at adding caching into ZBabel, but, it's not high on my priority list at the moment... I'm currently pounding the bricks. I'll try to make time over the weekend to have a look (I may be able to use the Zope Machinery to do the caching). | I do not want to hit the database | everytime someone requests that page.. Our site is usually translated to 5 | languages and we had developed a Perl script that would read php tags and | create static pages becuase of that problem, and in this case we do not | know at all what happend in eth backend.. Out of interest how many hits per hour are you doing? I worked on a largish portal system (ASP *puke*) and they had no problem going to the DB very very frequently. The key for the phrase is 32 bytes, it should be very quick to look up, even in a poorly tuned MySQL. -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] ZBabel performance??
+[ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ]- Snip... | translated. However my concern that if the page is accessed by thousands | of people, does Zope cache the translated text and serve it? does ZBabel I've added caching of phrase lookups using the ZSQL Methods caching facilties, it should cache up to 1,000 different phrases for 60 seconds. There is a 0.0.2 release on zope.org now. http://www.zope.org/Members/TheJester/ZBabel/ -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew Milton The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | ACN: 082 081 472 ABN: 83 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 | Carpe Daemon PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068|[EMAIL PROTECTED]| ___ Zope maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
