[Zope] ZClass tutorial

2000-07-24 Thread Firestar

Hi, some thoughts(and frustrations) from a newbie having his "first time"
with Zope.

The documentation needs a lot of improvement. Since October last year,
there's still only ONE chapter(which is on ZClasses) in the Zope Developer's
Guide?? Are there any more chapters forthcoming? Or do i have to fork out
money and purchase the commercial version one?:( (And don't refer me to ZDP,
please...)

As for the "Zope Content Manager Guide", the examples are easy enough for
newbies to understand, but some of the screenshots accompanying the examples
are not 'consistent'. Perhaps DC can do some proof-reading there.

As for the DTML reference, i felt "lost" after reading a few sections. At
first, I thought it would be as easy as when i first read the PHP manual,
but somehow it doesn't seem 'user-friendly' enough. Maybe i will try it
again after i have read the rest of the Reference Guides.

I'm not an expert in web development, and could not really pick up new
"technologies" fast. But i still remembered learning PHP was not that
difficult; the manual is comprehensive, easy-to-use and tutorials
contributed by other websites really speed up my learning process.

I understand that Zope is a different thing altogether from a programming
language like PHP. I have yet to read up the Z SQL Methods User Guide, but
from the docs that i have read so far, i still feel lost as to where and how
to start building an 'advanced' website, e.g. converting my current
PHP/MySQL website to Zope. Someting is missing here... Perhaps the Reference
Guides could add more explanation and details, instead of just "click here
and you will see this" kind of instructions. OR give more complex
(real-world)examples, like building an e-commerce site(with sessions, cart 
authentication).

sigh...i foresee a rocky road ahead for this newbie to master the 'Zen' of
Zope. Hopefully it's not a long one:(

regards,
firestar


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Re: [Zope] ZClass tutorial

2000-07-24 Thread George Donnelly

yeah i know how ya feel. even for little stuff i have to scrounge and beg
for help. :-(

hopefully this will improve when the O'Reilly Zope book comes out.

btw have you checked out the pdf files of all the howto's and tip's? i've
found them to be really helpful

http://www.zope.org/Members/AlexR/

also this list archives is really useful i think. i get a lot of stuff from
here

http://zope.nipltd.com/public/lists/zope-archive.nsf/$$Search?OpenForm

hth

Regards,
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He that always gives way to others will end in having no principles of his
own. --Aesop 

 Hi, some thoughts(and frustrations) from a newbie having his "first time"
 with Zope.
 
 The documentation needs a lot of improvement.
snip
 sigh...i foresee a rocky road ahead for this newbie to master the 'Zen' of
 Zope. Hopefully it's not a long one:(


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