Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-10 Thread Hugo Ramos
Hi Miguel,

Yes, as I wrote in my first email, all encoding options in zope.conf
are set to utf-8...



On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Miguel Beltran R. yourpa...@gmail.com wrote:


 2012/2/6 Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com



 But this doesn't seem to be the problem because templates encoded as
 utf-8 or iso-8859-1 all have the same problem.

 Any more ideas?


 are you played witth default-zpublisher-encoding option in zope.conf?

 
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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-09 Thread Miguel Beltran R.
2012/2/6 Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com



 But this doesn't seem to be the problem because templates encoded as
 utf-8 or iso-8859-1 all have the same problem.

 Any more ideas?


 are you played witth *default-zpublisher-encoding* option in zope.conf?


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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-06 Thread Hugo Ramos
I guess no one has charset problems...



On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yellow,

 I've noticed charset problems displaying HTML pages.

 Let's say I want to display a page using a DTML Method like this:

 html
 head
 ...
 /head

 body
 á Á à À ç
 /body
 /html

 This page is ok and I can see the portuguese letters fine.

 The problem starts when I do this:

 html
 head
 ...
 /head

 body
 á Á à À ç br
 dtml-var sometextfield
 /body
 /html

 The first line of characters shows some strange characters and the
 sometextfield shows up fine even if it has the same portuguese
 characters.


 sometextfield comes from a mySQL server using utf-8 as charset and collation.

 zope.conf has the following:

 rest-input-encoding utf-8
 rest-output-encoding utf-8

 The browsers also have UTF-8 as the encoding (safari, firefox and
 chrome) all show me the same problem.

 I also noticed some strange behavior...
 If I create á Á à À ç as a property field using ustring and call it
 as dtml-var someproperty also gets fine in the browser.

 Anyone seen this??? Double encoding maybe???


 TIA

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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-06 Thread Dragos Chirila
Hi,

You have to make sure that everything has the same encoding (strings, text
values). I recomend you to convert everything to unicode and then put
something like below as a first line in your page:

span
tal:replace=python:request.RESPONSE.setHeader('content-type','text/html;charset=utf-8')
/

and in the HEAD

meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /

HTH,
Dragos


On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess no one has charset problems...



 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yellow,
 
  I've noticed charset problems displaying HTML pages.
 
  Let's say I want to display a page using a DTML Method like this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç
  /body
  /html
 
  This page is ok and I can see the portuguese letters fine.
 
  The problem starts when I do this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç br
  dtml-var sometextfield
  /body
  /html
 
  The first line of characters shows some strange characters and the
  sometextfield shows up fine even if it has the same portuguese
  characters.
 
 
  sometextfield comes from a mySQL server using utf-8 as charset and
 collation.
 
  zope.conf has the following:
 
  rest-input-encoding utf-8
  rest-output-encoding utf-8
 
  The browsers also have UTF-8 as the encoding (safari, firefox and
  chrome) all show me the same problem.
 
  I also noticed some strange behavior...
  If I create á Á à À ç as a property field using ustring and call it
  as dtml-var someproperty also gets fine in the browser.
 
  Anyone seen this??? Double encoding maybe???
 
 
  TIA
 
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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-06 Thread Hugo Ramos
The correct prefix in the HTML header (meta http-equiv=Content-Type
content=text/html; charset=utf-8 is not needed because it affects
the browser behavior only and all my 3 browsers are set to UTF-8 by
default.

I've checked and I have some templates encoded as utf-8 and others as
iso-8859-1. This happens because some of the templates (mainly the
ones encoded as iso-8859-1) come from old data.fs that I've upgraded
and maintained over the years...
But this doesn't seem to be the problem because templates encoded as
utf-8 or iso-8859-1 all have the same problem.

Any more ideas?


BTW, any1 knows about some script I can use to encode everything in my
data.fs to utf-8? That would be very useful!




On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Thierry Florac thierry.flo...@onf.fr wrote:

 Hi,

 As a french, I had many charset problems at first because of our
 accentuated characters...

 But your problems are quite strange if everything is encoded in UTF-8.

 Do you have the correct prefix in your HTML template as well as the
 correct HTTP headers ?
 Can you check that your template is really encoded in UTF-8 ??

 Regards,
 Thierry


 Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:38:22 +,
  Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com a écrit:

 I guess no one has charset problems...



 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yellow,
 
  I've noticed charset problems displaying HTML pages.
 
  Let's say I want to display a page using a DTML Method like this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç
  /body
  /html
 
  This page is ok and I can see the portuguese letters fine.
 
  The problem starts when I do this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç br
  dtml-var sometextfield
  /body
  /html
 
  The first line of characters shows some strange characters and the
  sometextfield shows up fine even if it has the same portuguese
  characters.
 
 
  sometextfield comes from a mySQL server using utf-8 as charset and
  collation.
 
  zope.conf has the following:
 
  rest-input-encoding utf-8
  rest-output-encoding utf-8
 
  The browsers also have UTF-8 as the encoding (safari, firefox and
  chrome) all show me the same problem.
 
  I also noticed some strange behavior...
  If I create á Á à À ç as a property field using ustring and call
  it as dtml-var someproperty also gets fine in the browser.
 
  Anyone seen this??? Double encoding maybe???
 
 
  TIA
 
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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-06 Thread Hugo Ramos
Is there any tool I can use to convert all objects in my data.fs to utf-8?




On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Dragos Chirila objectval...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 You have to make sure that everything has the same encoding (strings, text
 values). I recomend you to convert everything to unicode and then put
 something like below as a first line in your page:

 span
 tal:replace=python:request.RESPONSE.setHeader('content-type','text/html;charset=utf-8')
 /

 and in the HEAD

 meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /

 HTH,
 Dragos


 On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:

 I guess no one has charset problems...



 On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Hugo Ramos ram...@gmail.com wrote:
  Yellow,
 
  I've noticed charset problems displaying HTML pages.
 
  Let's say I want to display a page using a DTML Method like this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç
  /body
  /html
 
  This page is ok and I can see the portuguese letters fine.
 
  The problem starts when I do this:
 
  html
  head
  ...
  /head
 
  body
  á Á à À ç br
  dtml-var sometextfield
  /body
  /html
 
  The first line of characters shows some strange characters and the
  sometextfield shows up fine even if it has the same portuguese
  characters.
 
 
  sometextfield comes from a mySQL server using utf-8 as charset and
  collation.
 
  zope.conf has the following:
 
  rest-input-encoding utf-8
  rest-output-encoding utf-8
 
  The browsers also have UTF-8 as the encoding (safari, firefox and
  chrome) all show me the same problem.
 
  I also noticed some strange behavior...
  If I create á Á à À ç as a property field using ustring and call it
  as dtml-var someproperty also gets fine in the browser.
 
  Anyone seen this??? Double encoding maybe???
 
 
  TIA
 
  --
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  E: ram...@gmail.com
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Re: [Zope] charset problems (utf-8)

2012-02-06 Thread Fernando Martins

On 02/06/2012 04:59 PM, Hugo Ramos wrote:

Is there any tool I can use to convert all objects in my data.fs to utf-8?


I had unicode related problems which usually come from mixing different 
encodings. In my case pretty much all my data also comes from a 
relational database. Also, not all versions of Zope support unicode 
properly for all types of objects. I had problems trying to upgrade my 
data.fs between zope versions due to unicode issues. I don't recall all 
the situations I came through and I can't help you much more here.


So, I guess your issue is that your page templates are combining data 
from other zope objects which are in different encoding. I doubt that 
you can convert all your objects to the same encoding as a general rule 
because that will be dependent on the specific object implementation. 
Even if you convert the data part of the objects, the code might still 
not work properly. But I don't know which type of objects you are 
talking about. Maybe one approach would be to export your data.fs as a 
whole or in parts using XML format and then try to make sure its 
encoding is utf-8.


Just vague considerations and a long shot, sorry if it doesn't help.

Regards,
Fernando

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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-05-02 Thread Jean
Hello everybody,
   I change the file manage.dtml in ..\python\app\dtml. This is the change
I've done:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd;
html
head
meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
titleZope on dtml-BASE0;/title

   Best regards.
   Jean Tinguely.

Selon Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Am Donnerstag, den 28.04.2005, 15:48 +0200 schrieb Daniel Dekany:
  Thursday, April 28, 2005, 3:11:01 PM, Peter Eis wrote:
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hello the list,
 In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
  rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But
 in my
  webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
  
  
  
   Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
   apache?
   In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
   config, too.
 
  Out of curiosity: How is that? I would think that Zope creates the whole
  HTTP response (so including the Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
  header). OK, mod proxy and such may change some headers in it, but the
  Content-Type's charset? The charset is about the HTTP response body,
  which is surely created inside Zope.

 Yes. Its entirely Zopes job. And if you are using pure Zope, you need
 to set the header in the publish process, e.g. with a python script
 or something you use for default display. Also you need to set a
 property manage_page_charset in zopes root to be able to use that
 encoding in ZMI too. This way you arent storing unicode - only utf-8
 as you want to display it.

 Regards
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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-05-02 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Montag, den 02.05.2005, 09:43 +0200 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello everybody,
I change the file manage.dtml in ..\python\app\dtml. This is the change
 I've done:
 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN
 http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd;
 html
 head
 meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html;charset=utf-8 /
 titleZope on dtml-BASE0;/title

Yes, thats a common problem - true HTTP-headers always
override these meta headers. Unfortunately file based 
approach leaves you and most tools with the meta tags
to transport encoding accross different file based
tools. In Zope you should simply:

dtml-call expr=RESPONSE.setHeader('content-type','text/html;
charset=utf-8') 

somewhere in the header and probably skipp the meta
tag (or have it at least the same content)

HTH
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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-04-28 Thread Peter Eis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello the list,
   In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But in my
webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
  


Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
apache?
In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
config, too.

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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-04-28 Thread Jean
Hello,
  I reach my ZOPE server directly.
  Best regards.
  Jean Tinguely.

Selon Peter Eis [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello the list,
In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
 rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But in
 my
 webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
 
 
 Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
 apache?
 In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
 config, too.

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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-04-28 Thread Daniel Dekany
Thursday, April 28, 2005, 3:11:01 PM, Peter Eis wrote:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello the list,
   In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But in 
my
webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
  


 Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
 apache?
 In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
 config, too.

Out of curiosity: How is that? I would think that Zope creates the whole
HTTP response (so including the Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
header). OK, mod proxy and such may change some headers in it, but the
Content-Type's charset? The charset is about the HTTP response body,
which is surely created inside Zope.

 Peter

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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-04-28 Thread Peter Eis
Daniel Dekany wrote:

Thursday, April 28, 2005, 3:11:01 PM, Peter Eis wrote:

  

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello the list,
  In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But in 
my
webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
 

  

Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
apache?
In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
config, too.



Out of curiosity: How is that? I would think that Zope creates the whole
HTTP response (so including the Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
header). OK, mod proxy and such may change some headers in it, but the
Content-Type's charset? The charset is about the HTTP response body,
which is surely created inside Zope.
  

Right, the page itself will be delivered in uft-8.
When we connected directly to zope the encoding was set to utf-8.

It's just that if you're using Apache in front of zope the browser
switches to the encoding which Apache is set to.
After we changed the default character set from ISO-8859-1 to utf-8 the
browser automatically changed it's character encoding to utf-8.

Peter

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Re: [Zope] Charset

2005-04-28 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Am Donnerstag, den 28.04.2005, 15:48 +0200 schrieb Daniel Dekany:
 Thursday, April 28, 2005, 3:11:01 PM, Peter Eis wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello the list,
In Zope.conf ( ZOPE 2.7.5-final ) I changed rest-input-encoding and
 rest-output-encoding to send UTF-8 and then restarted the server. But 
 in my
 webbrowser, the files are always received in windows-1252.
   
 
 
  Do you access zope directly or are you running behind a web server like
  apache?
  In the latter you'll have to change the default encoding in the apache
  config, too.
 
 Out of curiosity: How is that? I would think that Zope creates the whole
 HTTP response (so including the Content-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8
 header). OK, mod proxy and such may change some headers in it, but the
 Content-Type's charset? The charset is about the HTTP response body,
 which is surely created inside Zope.

Yes. Its entirely Zopes job. And if you are using pure Zope, you need
to set the header in the publish process, e.g. with a python script
or something you use for default display. Also you need to set a
property manage_page_charset in zopes root to be able to use that
encoding in ZMI too. This way you arent storing unicode - only utf-8
as you want to display it.

Regards
Tino

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