[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list. Period Mon Apr 16 12:00:00 2007 UTC to Tue Apr 17 12:00:00 2007 UTC. There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Unit Tests. Tests passed OK --- Subject: OK : Zope-2.7 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Apr 16 20:52:54 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007593.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Apr 16 20:54:25 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007594.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Apr 16 20:55:57 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007595.html Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Apr 16 20:57:28 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007596.html Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux From: Zope Unit Tests Date: Mon Apr 16 20:58:59 EDT 2007 URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2007-April/007597.html ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZClasses Maintenance and Upgrade
- Original Message - From: Christopher Lozinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zope-dev@zope.org Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:21 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] ZClasses Maintenance and Upgrade Well I have finally reached the stage where I am pushing the limits of ZClasses and would love an upgrade. Guess I need to do it myself. I run 38 specialty job boards, and am getting close to automatically putting up 300 more, each one has a custom ZClass. I am automatically generating ZClasses, Indexes, and Formulator Form's Fields. I don't like that each parent class lists its legal children, I think it would be better if the child listed the legal parents. The creation of an add permission for each of the 300 ZClasses I am about to generate also bothers me. You may want to rethink your approach before you launch 300 new job boards based on ZClasses; as of Zope 2.10.x ZClasses are officially deprecated (see http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.3/CHANGES.txt). I know this is a serious PITA... I just spent 3 months replacing ZClasses with a custom product in a client's web site because they did not want to get stuck in an old version of Zope. If long term maintainability is of interest then you may want to consider something other than ZClasses. Jonathan ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] The problem with ZClasses is a symptom of two problems with Zope 2
Why are there such problems with ZClasses, when they were written by intelligent people? I think I now know the answer to that. I am pretty sure that the permissions mechanism makes ZClasses have propertysheets, so that access to variables can share a permission. I am pretty sure that the Products structure makes ZClasses have their create methods at the same level as the ZClass, rather than 1 level below the Z Class in a class methods folder. So what do I have to do to fix ZClasses? What I am thinking of doing is taking the newest release of Zope 2, and tossing out permissions, and tossing out the Products piece, and then putting in place what I need to do fast through the web development. I will put in place a simpler permissions system. I will miss Formulator and Localizer, because they are tied in with the existing permissions mechanisms. But they should migrate over easily. I will probably break everything else in sight in the process.Maybe I need to keep the Products piece, and put in place NewProducts or something like that. But I will have a very nice upgrade path for ZClass based applications. And why do I keep getting flamed?There is some world view that does not like my world view. Why are permissions so broken in Zope2. They are way too complex. Why has no one released Zope 2 with cleaner permissions? Because it breaks everything? Thank you to all the people who recommended that I use CMF or Python Classes, or Zope 3. None of those are quite what I want and need. ZClasses is close to what I need, I just need to fix it. Regards Christopher Lozinski ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Zope Installers for Windows: ready for testing
It's that time again... fire up your VMs and do some testing. Let's get those up on the website ASAP! http://files.enfoldsystems.com/Zope-2.10.3-Final-7151.exe http://files.enfoldsystems.com/Zope-2.9.7-Final-7151.exe -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systemshttp://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The problem with ZClasses is a symptom of two problems with Zope 2
On 4/17/07, Christopher Lozinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are there such problems with ZClasses, when they were written by intelligent people? Because they were a nifty idea that didn't work out in practice. Such things happen. Even demi-gods make mistakes. :-) -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
