[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 74 OK, 31 Failed, 2 Unknown

2011-01-12 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
Summary of messages to the zope-tests list.
Period Tue Jan 11 12:00:00 2011 UTC to Wed Jan 12 12:00:00 2011 UTC.
There were 107 messages: 8 from Zope Tests, 2 from buildbot at pov.lt, 22 from 
buildbot at winbot.zope.org, 8 from ccomb at free.fr, 67 from jdriessen at 
thehealthagency.com.


Test failures
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Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.6 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 09:43:20 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028427.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.7 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 09:45:02 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028432.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.5 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 14:44:39 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028440.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.6 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 14:51:29 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028444.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_254_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:18:56 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028448.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:27:25 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028449.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_265_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:35:46 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028450.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.5 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:42:05 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028451.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:44:36 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028452.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu64
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:46:05 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028453.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-ubuntu32
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:46:44 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028454.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.6 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:48:37 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028455.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu64
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:50:38 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028456.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-ubuntu32
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:51:47 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028457.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_dev py_270_win64
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:53:07 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028458.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.6 slave-osx
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 15:54:33 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028459.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / ztk_10 py_244_win32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 16:02:29 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028460.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit-py2.5 slave-osx
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 16:07:30 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028461.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.6 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 20:28:35 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028474.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zope2.13_win-py2.7 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 20:29:48 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028475.html

Subject: FAILED : winbot / z3c.rml_py_265_32
From: buildbot at winbot.zope.org
Date: Tue Jan 11 21:20:29 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028486.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.5 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 21:22:27 EST 2011
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2011-January/028488.html

Subject: FAILED : Zope Buildbot / zopetoolkit_win-py2.6 slave-win
From: jdriessen at thehealthagency.com
Date: Tue Jan 11 21:28:57 EST 2011
URL: 

[Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Hello,

We have been experiencing some ConnectionStateError in a Zope 2 based 
application.

Looking for info on the web makes me almost 100% sure that we have a bug 
in our application layer.

I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module 
or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus 
connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation 
of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.

However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside 
reviewing the code.

I also wonder what was the reason to deprecate ``zope.thread``. I see it 
was used by ``zope.component`` to hold thread-safe siteinfo. Could a too 
frequent usage of getSite lead to ConnectionStateError ? I think that it 
is not the case but I prefer to ask.

Thanks
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Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 02:34:13PM +0100, Godefroid Chapelle wrote:
 We have been experiencing some ConnectionStateError in a Zope 2 based 
 application.
 
 Looking for info on the web makes me almost 100% sure that we have a bug 
 in our application layer.
 
 I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module 
 or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus 
 connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation 
 of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.
 
 However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside 
 reviewing the code.

I would be inclined to use pdb, get hold of the offending object, and
then use http://mg.pov.lt/objgraph/ to find which global variable refers
to it.

(It could be a case of if all you've got is a hammer, since objgraph is
still shiny in my mind.)

 I also wonder what was the reason to deprecate ``zope.thread``.

Because it was folded into the standard library in Python 2.4.
zope.thread.local() became threading.local()

 I see it 
 was used by ``zope.component`` to hold thread-safe siteinfo. Could a too 
 frequent usage of getSite lead to ConnectionStateError ? I think that it 
 is not the case but I prefer to ask.

Unlikely.

Marius Gedminas
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Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Dan Fairs
 We have been experiencing some ConnectionStateError in a Zope 2 based 
 application.
 
 Looking for info on the web makes me almost 100% sure that we have a bug 
 in our application layer.
 
 I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module 
 or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus 
 connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation 
 of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.
 

I've experienced this error, and that was indeed the cause. IIRC, in the case 
of the app I was dealing with at the time, it had managed to register a 
persistent object as a utility - and so ended up in the situation where the 
application tried to load the object using the wrong database connection.

The moral of the story here is that there are more places than just module 
level globals to look :)

It happened some time ago, so I'm afraid I cannot recall how we debugged it 
(only the amount of facepalming when we did.) I suspect finding out what the 
type of object was turned out to be a good indicator in our case, as it would 
only have been used in a couple of places. 

Cheers,
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Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Hanno Schlichting
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Godefroid Chapelle got...@bubblenet.be wrote:
 I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module
 or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus
 connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation
 of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.

 However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside
 reviewing the code.

Do you get the classic: Shouldn't load state for %s when the
connection is closed or one of the The database connection is
closed errors?

In the first case you get the p_oid, which you can load from the
database to give you some clue on what class it is.

Typical problems include using plone.memoize decorators on things
without knowing where exactly the cache is stored or as someone else
noted registering persistent objects in the global site manager
instead of the local one. The global one is of course just a module
global data structure in the end.

Hanno
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Re: [Zope-dev] ConnectionStateError

2011-01-12 Thread Godefroid Chapelle
Le 12/01/11 17:06, Hanno Schlichting a écrit :
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 2:34 PM, Godefroid Chapellegot...@bubblenet.be  
 wrote:
 I understand that I should look for persistent objects stored in module
 or class level variables (which imply shared by threads and thus
 connections). Do not hesitate to tell me if this is a wrong explanation
 of the potential cause of ConnectionStateError.

 However, I wonder if some of you could give debugging techniques outside
 reviewing the code.

Thanks for help from anyone.

Once debugged, I'll blog how I found the bug.

 Do you get the classic: Shouldn't load state for %s when the
 connection is closed or one of the The database connection is
 closed errors?

 In the first case you get the p_oid, which you can load from the
 database to give you some clue on what class it is.

I had no clue that the number in the error message was the p_oid. I 
could have found out by reading the code.

Nevertheless, I propose to make the error message more self-explanatory.

 Typical problems include using plone.memoize decorators on things
 without knowing where exactly the cache is stored or as someone else
 noted registering persistent objects in the global site manager
 instead of the local one. The global one is of course just a module
 global data structure in the end.

 Hanno

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 2: specifying Zope2 dependency

2011-01-12 Thread Charlie Clark
Am 11.01.2011, 22:44 Uhr, schrieb Tres Seaver tsea...@palladion.com:

 Python 2.5 isn't even getting security fixes from Python devs now, which
 means that Debian users are holding more risk than they know (I strongly
 doubt the Debian packagers of Python are up for backporting all the
 potential security fixes in the 2.6 / 2.7 lines).

I understand that and I don't understand Debian's policy - maybe after  
they move to a better kernel (no, don't bite...) they'll start following a  
better release policy as well? But this was precisely the reason cited for  
keeping support for 2.5 in the ZTK  1. I find this somewhat contradictory.

To the extent that there may well be people out there with existing  
servers that are dependent upon package management and, therefore, less  
likely to want to roll their own Python install, this makes sense. So +1  
on yuppie's initial suggestion for a 2.12 compatibility marking.

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