Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Contents of Initial Data.fs in Zope Distribution?

2002-11-14 Thread Casey Duncan
On Thursday 14 November 2002 04:36 am, Steve Alexander wrote:
 Casey Duncan wrote:
 
  It is only there due to lack of time to take it out. We had planned to 
  take it
  out for 2.6, but time was never made to replace it with code to 
  bootstrap an
  empty storage with the proper root level elements still residing in
  Data.fs.in.
 
 IIRC, the proper root level elements are now created in code.
 However, various unit tests of zope and 3rd party products rely on 
 having a Data.fs.in.

Most are, but some still are not (notably the standard_* dtml methods).

Good to know that 3rd party products rely on it. I hadn't thought of that. Do 
you know of one specifically?

-Casey

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Re: [ZODB-Dev] Re: [Zope-dev] Contents of Initial Data.fs in Zope Distribution?

2002-11-14 Thread Andy McKay
Whilst we are on the subject, I now ship the Plone Windows Installation (and
I think the Mac) without a ZODB, it monkey patches
OFS.Application.initialize to add in the Plone stuff on start up. This lets
us do some neat stuff and make a smaller download.

Im not sure how zope 3 does it, but I was hoping to make the scripts that
get run to initialise a ZODB a zcml parameter so that all I would do alter
the zcml file to load up the db.

 Zope2-Plone

Is anyone willing to help on this rpm? We only have deb's at the moment. Any
help would wonderful ;)
--
  Andy McKay
  www.agmweb.ca



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[Zope-dev] Contents of Initial Data.fs in Zope Distribution?

2002-11-13 Thread Jeff Rush
Working on updating my ZOPE and ZEO RPMs I got
to wondering...

What's in the default data.fs that ships with
Zope?  I mean, ZEO (actually ZODB) auto-creates
a data.fs when one isn't found, so why does
Zope come with one?

Or if there -is- something Zope-specific in
data.fs, then shouldn't there be a warning
in the ZEO notes that when ZEO is used
_underneath_ Zope, be sure to copy the
data.fs that comes with it?

My experience has always been with ZEO and
StandaloneZODB, not ZEO+Zope so I'm puzzled.

-Jeff

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Re: [Zope-dev] Contents of Initial Data.fs in Zope Distribution?

2002-11-13 Thread Casey Duncan
It is only there due to lack of time to take it out. We had planned to take it 
out for 2.6, but time was never made to replace it with code to bootstrap an 
empty storage with the proper root level elements still residing in 
Data.fs.in.

-Casey

On Wednesday 13 November 2002 02:22 pm, Jeff Rush wrote:
 Working on updating my ZOPE and ZEO RPMs I got
 to wondering...
 
 What's in the default data.fs that ships with
 Zope?  I mean, ZEO (actually ZODB) auto-creates
 a data.fs when one isn't found, so why does
 Zope come with one?
 
 Or if there -is- something Zope-specific in
 data.fs, then shouldn't there be a warning
 in the ZEO notes that when ZEO is used
 _underneath_ Zope, be sure to copy the
 data.fs that comes with it?
 
 My experience has always been with ZEO and
 StandaloneZODB, not ZEO+Zope so I'm puzzled.
 
 -Jeff
 
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Re: [Zope-dev] Contents of Initial Data.fs in Zope Distribution?

2002-11-13 Thread Jeff Rush
I don't quite understand -- so there *are* root
level elements specific to Zope that need to
be copied into a Zope-over-ZEO environment?
(hm, how do those elements get into a
non-FileStorage Zope-over-ZEO environment?)

And do those elements interfere even a little in
a non-Zope-just-ZEO environment?  The only way I
can imagine, other than simplistic name clashes
would be if a full iteration of such a ZODB would
cause unghosting of objects lacking Zope .pyc
and raise unnecessary exceptions.

I ask because I'm trying to decide whether two
ZEO RPMs are needed re ZEO-wo-Zope-2.0-1.i386.rpm
and ZEO-w-Zope-2.0-1.i386.rpm, or just one.
Somewhat similar to how the Zope RPMs have
separate ZServer and PCGI flavor packages.

-Jeff Rush


Casey Duncan wrote:

It is only there due to lack of time to take it out. We had planned to take it 
out for 2.6, but time was never made to replace it with code to bootstrap an 
empty storage with the proper root level elements still residing in 
Data.fs.in.

-Casey

On Wednesday 13 November 2002 02:22 pm, Jeff Rush wrote:

Working on updating my ZOPE and ZEO RPMs I got
to wondering...

What's in the default data.fs that ships with
Zope?  I mean, ZEO (actually ZODB) auto-creates
a data.fs when one isn't found, so why does
Zope come with one?

Or if there -is- something Zope-specific in
data.fs, then shouldn't there be a warning
in the ZEO notes that when ZEO is used
_underneath_ Zope, be sure to copy the
data.fs that comes with it?

My experience has always been with ZEO and
StandaloneZODB, not ZEO+Zope so I'm puzzled.

-Jeff



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