Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Martijn Faassen wrote: Okay, so we can safely add Chris (and also Philipp) to the list of people maintaining our windows binary eggs. Awesome! Chris, do you think you can take it from here in getting an environment set up? Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Like this? http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Sidnei da Silva wrote: On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 1:23 PM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would be rgeat to have a bullet point list for how to get a suitable environment set up given that I don't have mingw32 and have never used it before in my life :-S Like this? http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/using-ploneout-on-windows But I'm alergic to things with plohn in the title 0.5 wink Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Hi there, Yeah, I share this worry. I wonder what Jim is using. If Jim is using a mingw setup too, then there seems to be no real problem, after all. :) Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thursday 17 July 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: Yeah, I share this worry. I wonder what Jim is using. If Jim is using a mingw setup too, then there seems to be no real problem, after all. :) He does. :-) And I do too. I released several Windows binary eggs based on that setup as well. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 12:54 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: Yeah, I share this worry. I wonder what Jim is using. If Jim is using a mingw setup too, then there seems to be no real problem, after all. :) He does. :-) And I do too. I released several Windows binary eggs based on that setup as well. Mingw compiled extensions are binary-compatible yes. Mark Hammond has confirmed that at least once to me. -- Sidnei da Silva Enfold Systems http://enfoldsystems.com Fax +1 832 201 8856 Office +1 713 942 2377 Ext 214 ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Hi there, Okay, so we can safely add Chris (and also Philipp) to the list of people maintaining our windows binary eggs. Awesome! Chris, do you think you can take it from here in getting an environment set up? Regard, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Stephan Richter wrote: On Saturday 12 July 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: Chris wants to do them, he just wants some documentation on how to get started, I suspect. I use Philipp's blog entry from ages ago: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_07_26_cheap-binary-windows You see, I've always worried about using mingw32. I was under the impression that you really wanted to have all the C bits compiled with the same compiler, and I know that the official Python 2.5 releases aren't compiled with mingw32... Can someone with definitive knowledge let us know if there can be problems when some C-extensions are compiled with mingw32 and others (including python itself!) are compiled with the appropriate microsoft compiler? You also need to get access to the packages on PyPI, which I am happy to give to anyone I know. Great, please give me access to any packages you can... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: Chris wants to do them, he just wants some documentation on how to get started, I suspect. I use Philipp's blog entry from ages ago: http://www.z3lab.org/sections/blogs/philipp-weitershausen/2007_07_26_cheap-binary-windows You also need to get access to the packages on PyPI, which I am happy to give to anyone I know. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Here is the traceback information:
2008-07-13T10:44:37 ERROR SiteError http://127.0.0.1:8080/@@index.html
Traceback (most recent call last):
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpbLKU14/zope.publisher-3.5.3-py2.5.egg/zope/publisher/publish.py,
line 133, in publish
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpaC6Rf5/zope.app.publication-3.4.3-py2.5.egg/zope/app/publication/zopepublication.py,
line 167, in callObject
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpbLKU14/zope.publisher-3.5.3-py2.5.egg/zope/publisher/publish.py,
line 108, in mapply
- __traceback_info__: bound method Contents.index of
zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.Contents object at 0x7f0b7de06990
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpbLKU14/zope.publisher-3.5.3-py2.5.egg/zope/publisher/publish.py,
line 114, in debug_call
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmp8cmA1c/zope.app.container-3.6.0-py2.5-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/app/container/browser/contents.py,
line 443, in index
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmp6KzCKG/zope.app.pagetemplate-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/app/pagetemplate/viewpagetemplatefile.py,
line 83, in __call__
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmp6KzCKG/zope.app.pagetemplate-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/app/pagetemplate/viewpagetemplatefile.py,
line 51, in __call__
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmprTDkjU/zope.pagetemplate-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/pagetemplate/pagetemplate.py,
line 115, in pt_render
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 271, in __call__
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 888, in do_useMacro
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 533, in do_optTag_tal
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 518, in do_optTag
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 513, in no_tag
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 858, in do_defineMacro
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 954, in do_defineSlot
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 946, in do_defineSlot
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 343, in interpret
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpjL9hPq/zope.tal-3.5.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tal/talinterpreter.py,
line 819, in do_loop_tal
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpXUllta/zope.tales-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tales/tales.py,
line 682, in setRepeat
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpXUllta/zope.tales-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tales/tales.py,
line 696, in evaluate
-
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/zope.app.container-3.6.0-py2.5-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/app/container/browser/index.pt
- Line 36, Column 6
- Expression: PathExpr standard:u'view/listContentInfo'
- Names:
{'args': (),
'context': zope.app.folder.folder.Folder object at
0x7f0b7e9762a8,
'default': object object at 0x7f0b8a11c290,
'loop': {},
'nothing': None,
'options': {},
'repeat': {},
'request': zope.publisher.browser.BrowserRequest instance
URL=http://127.0.0.1:8080/@@index.html,
'template':
zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile.ViewPageTemplateFile object
at 0x7f0b8122d110,
'view': zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.Contents object at
0x7f0b7de06990,
'views': zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile.ViewMapper
object at 0x7f0b7de06a10}
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpXUllta/zope.tales-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tales/expressions.py,
line 217, in __call__
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmpXUllta/zope.tales-3.4.0-py2.5.egg/zope/tales/expressions.py,
line 211, in _eval
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmp8cmA1c/zope.app.container-3.6.0-py2.5-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/app/container/browser/contents.py,
line 97, in listContentInfo
File
/home/lgs/z3env25/eggs/tmp8cmA1c/zope.app.container-3.6.0-py2.5-linux-x86_64.egg/zope/app/container/browser/contents.py,
line 123, in _normalListContentsInfo
MemoryError
Steps to reproduce this problem:
virtualenv --no-site-packages z3env25
cd z3env25
. bin/activate
easy_install zopeproject
zopeproject HelloWorld
cd HelloWorld
bin/paster serve deploy.ini
I tried to go further and discover the source of this problem
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Hey, On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Stephan Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 04 July 2008, Chris Withers wrote: Apparently, it's all good to go, even RestrictedPython. The thing stopping me is that no-one seems willing and able (in that combination, I'm willing but don't have the right c-compiler) to build Windows binaries and get them up on PyPI. Doing Windows binaries is so easy these days, why are you not creating them? Chris wants to do them, he just wants some documentation on how to get started, I suspect. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
El sáb, 05-07-2008 a las 14:26 -0700, Stephan Richter escribió: On Thursday 26 June 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? Yes, works flawlessly. The problems in zope.security and zope.proxy that I recently found (and fixed) exist for Python 2.4 as well. Has anybody used this on a 64 bits architecture? I keep getting MemoryError exceptions using Python 2.5 and Zope 3. I don't get those with Python 2.4 and Zope 3. I can attach a traceback if that can help. Lorenzo ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Friday 04 July 2008, Chris Withers wrote: Apparently, it's all good to go, even RestrictedPython. The thing stopping me is that no-one seems willing and able (in that combination, I'm willing but don't have the right c-compiler) to build Windows binaries and get them up on PyPI. Doing Windows binaries is so easy these days, why are you not creating them? I particularly care about: zope.security I just uploaded an egg for version 3.5.1. zope.component This package does not contain any C code, so no binary release is required. zope.interface Version 3.4.1 has a binary egg for Windows. RestrictedPython This package does not contain any C code, so no binary release is required. The least you could have done is to verify whether any of those packages require binary Windows releases. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Martijn Faassen wrote: I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? Yes, works flawlessly. The problems in zope.security and zope.proxy that I recently found (and fixed) exist for Python 2.4 as well. * Are there plans for a release after Zope 3.4? I'm just assuming that Zope 3.4.0c1 is actually the only release that Zope 3.4 is going to see. Yeah, yeah. Next week I am traveling, so I plan to just update the packages to the latest bug-fix release and publish it. Any plans or interest in a Zope 3.5? For me the interest is more of having a stable KGS than the TAR ball. * Is someone exercising the trunk version of KGS, running the tests to see whether everything works together? No I have not started doing that yet. Is someone actually updating the versions? No, but producing it is not that much work. Could we somehow broaden the community for this? Yes, please. It effectively means giving more people to the directories on download.zope.org. What would the policy be for checkins of Zope-related packages? Could we use new Python 2.5 features, for instance? That's a good question. I am +1 for that. Regards, Stephan -- Stephan Richter Web Software Design, Development and Training Google me. Zope Stephan Richter ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
Martijn Faassen wrote: Hi there, I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. Me too, and I have been for ages, but I've gotten nowhere :-( * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? Apparently, it's all good to go, even RestrictedPython. The thing stopping me is that no-one seems willing and able (in that combination, I'm willing but don't have the right c-compiler) to build Windows binaries and get them up on PyPI. I'll ask again: what can I do to help with this? I particularly care about: zope.security zope.component zope.interface RestrictedPython ...and any dependencies. * Are there plans for a release after Zope 3.4? I'm just assuming that Zope 3.4.0c1 is actually the only release that Zope 3.4 is going to see. Any plans or interest in a Zope 3.5? I don't know what these mean anymore. With smaller eggs, surely it's just a case of getting compatible versions of the smaller libraries. And surely each egg's setup.py will make sure this happens? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have encountered zero problems. -- Paul Carduner http://www.carduner.net ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:14 -0700, Paul Carduner wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have encountered zero problems. Paul, Are you doing this on Linux? I tried 3.4 on Python 2.5 a few weeks ago and I don't recall the problems now but there were several. --Tim -- Timothy Cook, MSc Health Informatics Research Development Services LinkedIn Profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/timothywaynecook Skype ID == timothy.cook ** *You may get my Public GPG key from popular keyservers or * *from this link http://timothywayne.cook.googlepages.com/home* ** signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Tim Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:14 -0700, Paul Carduner wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5. * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your experiences? We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have encountered zero problems. Paul, Are you doing this on Linux? I tried 3.4 on Python 2.5 a few weeks ago and I don't recall the problems now but there were several. Yep. I can confirm that things work on Ubuntu Gutsy, hardy, as well as CentOS (the latest release). I should mention that we are not using the mega zope checkout but rather just a bunch of eggs: most of the core stuff plus a bunch of z3c.* packages. -- Paul Carduner http://www.carduner.net ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
